- 4x Blackcleave Cliffs
- 2x Blood Crypt
- 4x Bloodstained Mire
- 2x Cavern of Souls
- 2x Mutavault
- 3x Swamp
- 1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
- 4x Verdant Catacombs
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So, Happymaster, not changing the list on here, but when I get the chance I think I will see how 2 caverns goes.
November 19, 2016 2:04 p.m.
Btw I hope everyone had a good halloween.
November 19, 2016 2:05 p.m.
I decided to try out you guys' land suggestions. I kinda like it. If I went up to 24 lands I'd add a single swamp and a mountain. You know Blood Moon is not a bad mainboard card. Nor is Liliana of the Veil, she has fantastic synergy with Bloodghast and Kalitas, and gets better if you mainboard Asylum Visitor. I'm still weighing the option of swapping Lacerator for hand disruption.
November 20, 2016 2:20 p.m.
YamishiTheWickedOne if you were to put hand disruptions would it be inquisition of kozilek or thoughtseize?
November 21, 2016 5:53 a.m.
justinRO a mix of both. imo the ideal numbers are 3 IoK 2 thoughtseize.
November 21, 2016 7:29 a.m.
I placed mine on sb cause i lack surgical extraction. Have u tried it yet on the main boar?
November 21, 2016 7:33 a.m.
Surgical's a side card, not a mainboard one. But it's sideboard gold.
November 21, 2016 7:37 a.m.
I found that 3 Thoughtseize were too many- with the fetching and shocking, losing 2 more life was uncomfortable at that number. 3 Inquisition of Kozilek, 2 Thoughtsieze, and I've tossed in 2 Duress on some play testing, which I like much better. I have since replaced the Duress with 2 Kolaghan's Command, and I REALLY like how it plays. I did remove the Vampire Lacerators, which, while I miss the FAST 2/2 attack, helps to balance out the Thoughtseize life cost. I found that these offer greater utility right out of the gate.
I have been tinkering A LOT with the original deck build, trying to fit in more hand disruption, a couple Dark Confidants, and a couple Liliana of the Veil, but haven't hit the mix where I feel that it is right. I've also changed out the Grafdigger's Cage and Pithing Needle for 2 Blood Moons, in the SB, but feel I need more basics swamps now... so the tinkering continues. I might remove the Surgical Extractions, or at least drop it down to a 1-of, to fit the Cage back in.
November 21, 2016 9:04 a.m.
Bloody vampires aggro guys can you check my decklist . Im kinda worried about my lands. Whatcha think?
November 26, 2016 7:52 a.m.
With Valakut and dredge on the rise and in my local one sideboard card I'm seriously going to buy now is Leyline of the Voidx4 but and suggestions on what to take out?
November 30, 2016 11:48 p.m.
You only need a couple of Ravenous Traps
Take out and Explosives and a Dragons claw
November 30, 2016 11:54 p.m.
Any chance Gifted Aetherborn is good enough to see play here? Lowering the curve might help a bit, and it synergizes well with Kalitas.
January 25, 2017 11:27 a.m.
GeminiSpartanX yes, he is, I'm currently weighing how important Nighthawk's flying is, as it's often relevant in some matchups. Also debating whether Fatal Push is worth cutting bolt for or not. Maybe terminate, but then I like both here.
January 25, 2017 7:01 p.m.
Fatal Push is a tempting card, but it reminds me very much of Tragic Slip. If you felt Push was applicable, would Tragic not be a relevant use of that slot? It can effectively hit Eldrazi creatures, whereas the other cannot. Albeit, under a condition.
January 25, 2017 9 p.m.
Also, IMHO, I would rather disrupt hand on turn 2 and wait one more round to get out the Vampire Nighthawk, rather than bust out the 2 drop. To me, Gifted Aetherborn is something of an inferior nighthawk. But it is nice to see the new options available to the children of Cain!
January 25, 2017 9:04 p.m.
January 25, 2017 10:21 p.m.
Oh, guys, in the future, can we all just agree to refer to Fatal Push as This is Sparta?
January 30, 2017 6:47 a.m.
One thing to note is that This is Sparta is much more consistent in a 3 color deck because Fetches. This doesn't mean it's not incredible; just something to remember.
Also Vampenguin (is that acceptable) is very solid and double black isn't too hard to achieve for this deck. I'm not sure I'd cut all the Nighthawks, as they're great too.
(Still salty that Olivia's still in this deck but eh)
February 12, 2017 9:08 p.m.
The thing with Olivia is lately I'm reluctant to play her without captain out. I can't make her immune to This Is Sparta, I do what I can to avoid bolt.
February 13, 2017 12:50 a.m.
So my initial thoughts: with this structure of the build I'm MUCH more aggressive, a lot like when I first built the deck (I had 12 1 mana creatures and 10 lords at one point). The good thing about vamps is thanks to Captain Runo Motherfluffing Stromkirk, I can assume a defensive stance and hold up a solid pressure game.
February 13, 2017 12:53 a.m.
I like the look of the changes you have made... although, I will be replacing the Lacerators with Aetherborn, while keeping the Nighthawks-
On a different note, I am currently trying to build a deck which will be functional in a 4 team, 2 per team, battle royal. The other decks involved are very creature heavy, so I am trying to have my part of the removal included, along with creature abilities which affect EVERY opponent. I am confident that I will be able to crack Lily's ultimate, every time she is out, so that will be nice to debilitate whomever I choose. Plus, Kalitas turns into a POWERHOUSE zombie engine with that many others involved. Please take a look, if you'd like. I would appreciate any and all input.
February 14, 2017 4:26 p.m.
hows it go in the world of vampires!
i would suggest that with 8 fetches and 5 real (swamp/mountain) targets dose this potential triggers/ land targets? As for me, i found myself either running more crypts or even the new land smodering marsh. i really like the cavern direction over the full 4 mutavault too. Also blood moon hurts too, in my play group at least.
on the other hand i do like inquisition personally just to gain information.
February 20, 2017 1:27 a.m.
February 20, 2017 4:11 p.m.
I feel like Gifted Aetherborn does enough against aggro decks. Flying is helpful but you probably want speed more.
February 20, 2017 5:01 p.m.
It also activates upon using a fetch. Note it says "permanent" and not "creature". I dunno, this version is way faster, but has fewer answers to bigger creatures and feels much less flavorful.
February 20, 2017 6:35 p.m.
February 21, 2017 10:09 p.m.
I like what I'm seeing but I have a few questions with the play style:How do you keep the juice going later in the game?Since you have four nocturnus, do you think 4 gifted aetherborn will work and lower mana curve?Is four lightning bolt required?Have you considered Kalastria Highborn?How do you beat Eldrazi/Tron?
I have made a Rakdos Vampires deck that I would very much like critiqued.
February 22, 2017 10:41 p.m.
Vampires are so metal!!! +1 for having a black dahlia murder song title( don't know if any correlation).
February 22, 2017 11:33 p.m.
February 28, 2017 6:51 p.m.
March 1, 2017 5:53 a.m.
March 1, 2017 12:57 p.m.
Happymaster19 that was a valid sideboard during the Eldrazi invasion.
March 1, 2017 8:02 p.m.
I feel like this deck doesn't have much late game, due to the fact that there is no card draw. Unless a turn five or less win is achievable, this deck would have to be lucky to beat Eldrazi Tron or Esper Control. I'm having similar problems with my vampire deck and want to add either sign in blood or phyrexian arena. Which would you choose and why? Also, I can't afford Liliana but I would like any suggestions on control deck hate besides Thoughtseize and such.
March 2, 2017 9:07 p.m.
Dark Confidant actually since I own 4. Turn 4-5 wins are actually easily doable.
March 3, 2017 2:43 a.m.
Both options are useful but at most I'd run only 1 arena (barring Bob). I feel like in a lot of ways hand disruption should take priority over draw. If you can fit both have at it. You also have Asylum Visitor for late game.
March 3, 2017 2:50 a.m.
Bob works well with a more midrangey build. It holds it's cards better. Asylum Visitor is better in all in builds that have super cheap creatures and interaction.
March 3, 2017 3:16 a.m.
I'm thinking about going to 1 Olivia and running 4 Nightpenguin.
March 16, 2017 7:05 p.m.
I do like lowering the curve by cutting extra copies of top end legends. The three drop slot is a little light though and I notice you play even more creatures in your list than mine and your list values black for Nocturnus. Maybe Captivating Vampire as a one of? If not, maybe just good ol Vampire Nighthawk. Something to fill that three slot with more black.
March 16, 2017 7:31 p.m.
Also, I don't know about your local meta but Blood Moon really does a number on all the midrange, Tron, Death's Shadow, and Eldrazi decks out there right now.
March 16, 2017 9:21 p.m.
Updated, I have 3 versions now - midrange, control and aggro. Would like input.
March 18, 2017 3:14 a.m.
The curve on V2 looks best but after seeing what Lily does for madness it feels like she's underutilized without Falkenrath Gorger. What if you filled it with creatures and put Lily in the side?
March 18, 2017 3:39 a.m.
Just putting it out there, This deck is the coolest deck on Tappedout imo
March 25, 2017 7:01 p.m.
May 31, 2017 7:13 a.m.
Gifted Aetherborn is actually in the version 3 of this deck. You wouldn't think it but the flying is relevant often enough to matter.
May 31, 2017 8:03 a.m.
Your decks are sweet! I asked this question in v2, but if you didn't have access to Dark Confidant, what in your opinion is next best option for card draw in Vampires? A combination of Asylum Visitor and Phyrexian Arena?
June 15, 2017 11:35 a.m.
@Facebeater yeah. It's not perfect by any means but it can work. I'm not sure if those would conflict with each other since they both trigger at upkeep's start. I believe, and I'm not sure on this, but I believe they both go on the stack and you'd choose which one resolves first. I know that in cases where both players have an effect like that the turn player has priority. At any rate Bob is a much better option but he's a bank breaker. If you want consistency, Viscera Seer is actually amazing, especially if you can afford Bloodghast.
June 15, 2017 2:19 p.m.
Asylum Visitor can be amazing, but you have to build the deck to be hellbent.
Since it has a "second playset" in Blood Scrivener, and you can support it with cheap removal and a variety of discard outlets that were printed for the madness cards of shadows over innistrad, like: Call the Bloodline (which can net a token both on your own turn, and on your opponent's turn), Stromkirk Condemned, Heir of Falkenrath, or stuff like Sinister Concoction, or Soul Spike.
When you draw 2-3 cards every turn, getting rid of unwanted lands to keep hellbent is a bigger concern, than "unreasonable cost" of discarding for removal.
Still such deck play differently from tipical jund or grixis midrange, as they attempt to expend all resources (mana or cards in hand) every turn, instead of holding them for the opportunity to provide the most value.
June 15, 2017 6:21 p.m.
June 16, 2017 7:29 a.m.
Smuggler's Copter is a very interesting idea. I kind of like it even if it's off-tribe and conflicts with Nocturnus. It could be a budget Bob but I prefer to keep as much of the deck black as possible.
June 16, 2017 7:55 a.m.
Seriously does anyone know how to tell the editing feature that no, I do not have a commander. It just won't go away.
July 8, 2017 6:39 p.m.
Behind Nocturnus there might be a cmdr behind the card name tell it that's a commander card
July 8, 2017 10:40 p.m.
I'm thinking of lowering Olivia to 1. I'd like to add 3 each of Inquisition of Kozilek and Thoughtseize but I don't know what I'd cut. I've trimmed most of my actual vamps to "just enough" portions already and my one-drop creatures are necessary.
July 9, 2017 8:25 p.m.
Dig your Deck you should check out my vampire deck darkside it's a little different I could use a little advice
August 3, 2017 11:01 p.m.
I dig your deck I'm going to use some of the sideboard board for my vampire deck darkside and I'm also thinking about using the mutavaults if you could take a look at my deck and give me a touch of advice I'm only really losing to boardwipes and removal
August 4, 2017 8:42 a.m.
Thank you Whitelionq. If removal is hurting you, try mainboarding Inquisition of Kozilek and Thoughtseize. Side 2 Collective Brutality and maybe a backup Surgical Extraction. Bloodghast is used here because he's resilient to a lot of removal cards.
August 4, 2017 11:36 p.m.
This deck is 100% SAVAGE!! I love the flavor and vampires have always been one of my favorite tribe's. +1 from me!
August 28, 2017 10:54 a.m.
What do you think about the Bloodcrazed Paladin?? A 2 mana flash vamp??!
September 3, 2017 11 p.m.
I think he should have either been 1 mana or a 2/1. At best he's a counter side against boardwipe-heavy matchups. Not good enough on his own. Not great vs targeted removal. His only mainboard home is in the Viscera Seer + Bloodghast + Blood Artist/Kalastria Highborn engine, and that's less and less popular with time. Aristocrats is barely a thing to begin with.
September 4, 2017 7:08 a.m.
So Bloodcrazed Paladin is at best a sideboard card. His purpose is clearly to flash in after getting boardwiped.
September 4, 2017 7:14 a.m.
So GeminiSpartanX asked a while back about how playable Gifted Aetherborn is here. I've replaced Vampire Lacerator with him because the life loss was too big a liability in the current meta. With Aetherborns my Burn matchup improves a bit but the deck loses a bit of speed. I dunno if I'll keep him forever but I feel he's better in current Modern. Gifted's a really good card. Deathtouch, lifelink and 2/3 body for 2 mana is no joke.
September 7, 2017 9:16 a.m.
Speaking of new vamps, Sanctum Seeker could make it here as a one-of,but he'd be competing for space with a second Olivia. He doesn't give my creatures any more survivability like say Captain or Nocturnus, but he can make kills potentially much faster and he looks amazing on paper vs Burn.
September 17, 2017 9:43 p.m.
You already have Gifted Aetherborn and Kalitas. Seeker wants you to go wider than this more midrangey build.
September 18, 2017 12:48 a.m.
You're probably right. I'm just looking at newer cards and ways of addressing common and/or problematic matchups. As mentioned the Aetherborns are purely a meta call. So are bloodghasts.
September 18, 2017 10:20 a.m.
Is bloodmoon a bad matchupp for your deck? Even with all the red creature's you have?
October 1, 2017 5:58 p.m.
After recent tests, I've been finding there are matchups where I find myself in topdeck mode, so I feel like a few Asylum Visitors are a really good idea here, but the problem is space is currently pretty tight. Any ideas on what to cut, guys?
November 29, 2017 11:51 a.m.
Arent you running Dark Confidant in some of your builds?
November 29, 2017 1:57 p.m.
I was but it's been a while and I realized that the life loss was kinda big and the meta's been shifting around, not sure exactly where I want my curve to be at right now and there are too many new vamps to choose from lately.
November 29, 2017 2:17 p.m.
Id also swap a pair of Nocturnus for a pair of Bolts.
November 29, 2017 3:11 p.m.
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