Hopeful Eidolon

Legality

Format Legality
Tiny Leaders Legal
Noble Legal
Leviathan Legal
Hero Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Modern Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Casual Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
MTGO Legal
Vanguard Legal
Legacy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Planechase Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Set Rarity
Theros (THS) Common

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Hopeful Eidolon

Enchantment Creature — Spirit

Bestow 3W (If you cast this card for its bestow cost, it's an Aura spell with enchant creature. It becomes a creature again if it's not attached to a creature.

Lifelink

Enchanted creature gets +1/+1 and has lifelink.

Hopeful Eidolon Discussion

CoodieWoo on Freight Train to Sierra Leone

2 months ago

I like the overall idea of the deck, in fact I currently work on kind of a similar idea. Kitsune Mystic is a really sweet addition indeed since not only you can basically use it for moving around hexproof\shroud, but also for moving combat enchantments mid-combat on an unblocked creature, basically turning it into a 1-mana combat trick. However, I`d like to give couple of improvement suggestions.

1) The mana base is only 33 cards, which is extremely low. Such a scarcity of lands should have a solid reasoning, like a really solid one, for instance a ramp on the stick in form of the commander. The average agreed-upon amount is 37-38, and I do not see why this deck should be an exclusion.

2) Following up the mana base argument, I would suggest working on a ramp package, which is basically non-existing in a current version of the deck, and those cards that do ramp you are either conditional (like One with Nature ) or sub-par ( Utopia Vow ). Kestia is in , so not running ramp is a crime against humanity. I would include at least 7 more ramp cards, especially 2-mana ones, like Rampant Growth , Sakura-Tribe Elder and Farseek . Ramp and better mana base provide much more consistency, and this deck is already very good with draw, so it just needs to have better chances to play the cards it has drawn. Also, just put Sol Ring in there. You would never regret it. It`s just too good.

3) The deck is overkill on creatures and enchantments. Now if the enchantments are not that much for a problem since the whole deck is built around them, and usually a deck should have around 30 cards of which it is themed around, the amount of creatures can be decreased. Now which of these should be cut is completely up to you, but in my opinion: - most of the bestow creatures are not as effective as you would want them to be. Most of them are either just sub-par cards ( Boon Satyr ) or just overpriced copies of enchantments that you already have in the deck (i. e. Hopeful Eidolon Ghostblade Eidolon Hypnotic Siren ); - Nylea's Colossus , although being a really sweet card, seems unreliable. 7 mana in a deck with virtually no ramp is just so far into the future, and you have to spend your whole turn to cast it. Plus, you already have a lot of enchantments, so pumping a dude to lethal numbers should be pretty easy already; - Celestial Ancient seems to lack synergy with the deck as a whole. I can see only 3 token producers and a Starfield of Nyx , which, by the way, is also a controversial inclusion since many enchantments in the deck are auras.

4) I would also try and squeeze in more unconditional removal. I see you have most of your removal in form of Pacifism type enchantments, that have better synergy with enchantresses, however I would argue that since you have so many enchantress type effects and enchantments in general that those cards can be swapped for more reliable and consistent removal like SWORDS TO PLOWSHARES Path to Exile and Return to dust. Also I`d also include couple more board wipes because they are basically your safety nets if you fall behind in the game. One sweet thing you can actually do is to include Calming Verse , Aura Thief and Cleansing Meditation , cast one of these along with Enchanted Evening and basically watch your opponents scoop as they lose all their stuff.

I have a lot more tunings to suggest, but they become much too subjective from here, so yeah, there you go.

xyr0s on First deck help

3 months ago

Way too many one-ofs, and no real focus.

Try this: Decide which 4 cards you really like seeing on your opening hand, and get a full set of each of these. Remove other cards that are similar, but at higher cost.

Also, to be brutally honest, a lot of the cards are very low powered, even by casual standards. Just consider cards like Duress or Gatekeeper of Malakir... both are budget-friendly options, and you've included neither of them. Silvercoat Lion is a 2/2 for 2 mana - that is (problems with mana colors aside) the same as gatekeeper. Which do you think is better?

A card like Azorius Arrester could be funny - if you built your deck around small, aggressive creatures and disruption to let them attack without too much interference. But then one of the next cards on the list is Hopeful Eidolon, which is a card that wants you to cast spells at it. Sure, you have some bestow-spells, but mostly they are way too expensive in mana compared to cost, and you don't have much else heroic to justify the extra expense. All in all, you could remove everything heroic and bestow, and up the numbers of small and aggressive creatures, for a better deck.

Land... there are so many kinds of dual colored land in modern, and it's really useful to have those.

Burhan on Orzhov Enchantment Constellation

4 months ago

Two copies of Athreos, God of Passage would benefit your deck greatly. You could also include Erebos, God of death.

You miss some one mana creature drops, Hopeful Eidolon could fill in this niche. Also, remove Stab Wound for 4 copies of Ethereal Armor, it does wonders in enchantment heavy decks. Plus, you need something to pump your creatures up to swing for lethal or at least put pressure.

A good sideboard card would be Eidolon of Rhetoric, a very fitting card against storm decks.

I don't know how to feel about Master of the Feast without Fate Unraveler, especially 4 copies of this gluttonous demon. If you want a flying enchantment demon that badly I would recommend Herald of Torment.

I like this deck! My recommendations, especially Athreos, God of Passage and Ethereal Armor would give this deck more of a competitive edge. +1

SaschMcFlash on White Heroic Auras

5 months ago

Hey, GoblinsBeatElves! I do prefer Emerge Unscathed over Brave the Elements simply because Brave doesn't target and thus doesn't trigger Heroic while Emerge triggers it twice. That's 4 (most likely unblockable) damage on a Fabled Hero on my following turn. Also, I don't think it saves my creatures from board wipes. But I'm not sure about that, to be honest. I like Kor Spiritdancer. Maybe that'll be my replacement for Hopeful Eidolon.

Thanks a lot for your suggestions!

lagotripha on R/W Angel Deck(Help)

8 months ago

Its always good to see new players.

Decks tend to fall into three categories- aggro, midrange and control. Most combo decks also fall into these categories too.

Aggro looks to play lots of small threats and win asap, midrange looks to trade even then play efficient medium sized threats, then control looks to stop the opponent doing anything while it gets small advantages and eventually win (think 4 Pristine Angel and a bunch of Mana Leak).

Most angels form a midrange strategy. You try to stall until you have enough mana, then play hard to kill three and four drops which fly over the opposing board. You get that you're trying to do this, and having trouble.

This is because a lot of your creatures form part of an aggro strategy- they are 1 and 2 drops that want to attack lots, but by attacking they mostly aren't helping you survive. If you want to carry on attacking with the small creatures, I reccomend more Bishop's Soldier, with some backup creatures like Hopeful Eidolon Mesa Unicorn, Sacred Cat etc to help you live an extra couple of turns and gain enough life to challenge aggro.

Alternatively, you can pick up powerful blockers and disruption spells- your Nyx-Fleece Ram, your Authority of the Consuls etc, but that Silverblade Paladin/Precinct Captain interaction will go to waste.

In all of these, Archangel of Thune is an all star, but I can understand wanting a variety of angels- I still dust off my 'all the dragons' deck once in a while. You can back this up with accesss to R/W's amazing budget removal suite. Chained to the Rocks, Oblivion Ring, Oust and many others all help stop your opponent doing what they want to be doing, and don't break the bank.

If you like the format in modern, there are a set of staple cards (Path to Exile, Lightning Bolt, Fatal Push, Mana Leak, meta manadorks) that you will want, but its best not to commit too soon, as you can still put up a respectable winrate even in competitive environments without them, and pick up exactly what you need for a deck you like playing.

If you are having trouble figuring out land percentage and land drops (we were all there once), there are a couple of simple rules of thumb. For decks with all 1 drops, you can drop to 18 lands, but you will lose some mulligans. For decks that consistantly want 4 drops 25-26 land equivalents are the call, with manadorks, cheap land search and ramp counting as half a land. There are more detailed guides if you look at a specific strategy.

Playing six mana angels is a lot of fun, and I completely get it. If you want to focus on this, then dedicated ramp and a focus on angels with haste or similar immediate effects is a must. You can use things like Pentad Prism to play an angel a couple of turns early, and pray that it is enough. Cards like Desperate Ritual or Pyretic Ritual can also help, as can things like Grinning Ignus. Just remember that the more you rely on any one card, the more your opponent gets when they kill it- this is why everyone loves cards that do stuff right away when they enter the battelfield, you care (somewhat) less when you opponent kills it, and why having a hand with one important spell and mostly things to let you cast it can be a problem.

jakeelephant006 on Athreos

9 months ago

In a gist, less removal, more ramp, creatures and lands.

This is a solid deck. It really has some power in some places. The trick is getting it to be cohesive. Right now there doesn't seem to be a real solid theme or focus which makes the deck unwieldy during play. It wouldn't take much to fix this, though. I think it would be a good idea to focus on getting Athreos out and then playing value creatures and forcing opponents to make the decision on whether or not you get to play those creatures an additional time.

Cards to pull: Removal - You have more than enough in here so you can cut some of the less effective (more restrictive) cards like Divine Verdict, Pillar of Light, Ghostly Possession, Reprisal, Murderous Cut, Arrest, Suppression Bonds, Doom Blade or Armament of Nyx. (I put the cards in order of what I would think is best to pull to worst to pull). I would generally stay away from creature based removal here because you want to increase the number of creatures you have in the deck.

Other - These are cards that kinda just take up a slot. They're generally not bad, but they kinda pull this deck in directions that don't help the deck win like it should. These include Raise Dead, Baneful Omen, Edge of the Divinity, Cutthroat Maneuver, Erebos's Titan, Nighthowler, Pontiff of Blight, and Hopeful Eidolon. I hesitate to put the creatures on here cuz I think it would be best to have more creatures than fewer but these ones are good things to cut if you're looking to make more room.

Cards to add: Generally, I'd try to slot in some more ramp cards like Sol Ring, Orazca Relic, Orzhov Signet, Commander's Sphere, Solemn Simulacrum and the like. Also you could do with more card draw. For instance Dusk Legion Zealot, Ambition's Cost, Read the Bones, Hedron Archive, etc. And then put in some more quality creatures. Maybe they should have etb or death effects like Merciless Executioner, Fleshbag Marauder, Demon of Dark Schemes, Elenda, the Dusk Rose, Blood Artist, and more. Or maybe they're just solid creatures like Bontu the Glorified, Cataclysmic Gearhulk, Crested Sunmare, Urgoros, the Empty One, or Vona, Butcher of Magan. Maybe even a couple more board clearers like Crux of Fate, Bontu's Last Reckoning, Fumigate, or Hour of Revelation

Essentially, this deck has the structure to be real strong. It just needs some focus and a few upgrades to really get where it wants to go. Hope this helps.

Austin_Smith_of_Cards on Grim Enchants

1 year ago

A W/B enchantment Pauper deck with Grim Guardian always appealed to me, so this list is pretty cool. A couple things:

Spiteful Returned is not pauper-legal. It has only been printed at uncommon. I'd probably replace with Hopeful Eidolon or Baleful Eidolon.

Pillory of the Sleepless is much stronger than Stab Wound. You want to maximize life drain while also removing the creature, which it executes far better than SW.

Including a copy or two of Unmake to the sideboard is strong backup removal in case your opponents are heavy on enchantment hate and your O-Rings no longer work.

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