Etali, Primal Storm
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Alchemy Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Historic Brawl Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Pre-release Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Standard Legal
Standard Brawl Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Etali, Primal Storm

Legendary Creature — Dinosaur

Whenever this attacks, exile the top card of each player's library, then you may cast any number of nonland cards exiled this way without paying their mana costs.

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Crow_Umbra on Musashi's Mosh Pit [Primer]

2 months ago

Thank you for checking out the deck and offering some suggestions, Craeter, I appreciate it. I'm overdue on doing a year end wrap up of the various changes I've made this year. Definitely overdue for a primer update in general; I've been meaning to expand on a couple of sections and clean up organization in general. In regards to your suggestions:

  • I used to play Sword of the Animist in some of the earliest iterations of this deck, from like February 2022 to at most the following year. A core memory was an early game where I pulled all of the basics out of my deck with the Sword, & my play group saw how this would be a problem. Over time, I've moved away from playing equipment much beyond the Lightning Greaves variants and Skullclamp, especially outside of dedicated Equipment strats. They're useful, but I don't like the play pattern of equipment costs, especially when I run lots of cheap instant speed interaction, that I feel those costs can compete with. I think as I optimized my mana base, Land Tax effectively took the slot that Sword used to be in.

  • I'll keep that Kaya in mind. I played Kaya, Geist Hunter for a bit for her anthem effect and token doubling. Planeswalkers don't see a whole lot of play in my play groups because of how aggro and go-wide they primarily lean. Walkers tend to get attacked and removed very quickly.

  • Nahiri's Resolve is interesting as an anthem & means of re-setting creatures at end of turn. For a Haste anthem, 5 mana feels kind of slow, especially when there are other haste anthems in the 3-4 cmc range that also offer a power buff in addition to haste. I think this could be a stronger piece in a deck with a more dedicated suite of creatures or artifacts with ETB effects.

  • Etali, Primal Storm is another card I used to play in Isshin. There were turns where it popped off & got some really cool pulls off its doubled trigger. The majority of the time I played it, Etali tended to eat targeted removal and board wipes, or the attack triggers whiffed. It's a fun card, but very boom or bust. Big Red effects are fun, but after a while I craved more consistency.

  • Mangara, the Diplomat was in some of the earliest iterations of this deck (maybe like the first 4 months). I found that my playgroup would play around Mangara in a way that he didn't feel super impactful. Some of the earliest archetype shifts that I made for this deck were cutting the more defensive pillow-fort effects like Mangara and Emberwilde Captain, and leaning much more into being proactive with my own aggro. I've found that Authority of the Consuls and similar effects have been wonderful here because they hamper early aggro, or cheaply come down when the table is in board-wipe recovery mode and helps me get out ahead.

  • I played Gloin briefly in my old Prosper, Tome-Boundfoil deck. Gimli feels like it could be a budget alternative to Professional Face-Breaker, or put in work in a more Legendary focused deck, like you suggested. I toyed around with the idea of a Shanid, Sleepers' Scourge Mardu Legends deck about a year ago, and I think these two Dwarves and Galadriel's Mirror would be more at home there.

Thank you again for the suggestions.

Craeter on Musashi's Mosh Pit [Primer]

2 months ago

Hey thanks for putting in all the work researching and optimizing this deck, I used it as a basis for an Isshin deck of my own. Here's a few things I uncovered: Sword of the Animist benefits from Isshin's double activations, which is pretty insane mana ramp. Kaya the Inexorable can protect Isshin from exile, I'm also using it with Nahiri's Resolve to force 1/1 token flyers each turn. Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit also benefits from Nahiri's, although granted it wouldn't be as useful here. Etali, Primal Storm double activation is insane with Isshin. Also went for some legendary shenanigans: Gimli of the Glittering Caves (also benefits from Nahiri's) Gloin, Dwarf Emissary, Mangara, the Diplomat, Mirror of Galadriel, Relic of Legends, and some other minor tweaks. There's 25 legendary creatures in my version, so the Mirror and Relic will definitely get some value.

I know that's way too much to consider to add here, just wanted to add my 2 cents and thank you for doing the legwork.

Jack-Frost on Pako and Haldan, Avid Retriever *Primer*

9 months ago

Apokalypsi I did, and he's honestly a great card for this deck. The only reasons I don't run him are the fact that firstly he's a 5 drop which is expensive, but also because there are only two cards in my deck that trigger him being Pako, Arcane Retriever and Etali, Primal Storm. I'm honestly still considering him, which is why he's in my maybeboard, but i'm just not really sure what i'd want to cut for him. I'll take another look again and reconsider, so thank you so much for the suggestion. I'm glad you liked the deck!

tindolos on Paradox Power - Upgrade

10 months ago

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Flodoo on Caveman Magic

1 year ago

fragarach97

Why Etali, Primal Conqueror  Flip is preferable to Etali, Primal Storm?

Etali, Primal Conqueror  Flip comes into play and lets you play 4 Spells (in a 4 Palyer Commander) for free and not on the attack trigger first, at the risk of revealing 4 lands.

Flodoo on Caveman Magic

1 year ago

fragarach97

Why Etali, Primal Conqueror  Flip is preferable to Etali, Primal Storm?

Etali, Primal Conqueror  Flip comes into play and lets you play 4 Spells (in a 4 Palyer Commander) for free and not on the attack trigger first, at the risk of revealing 4 lands.

C5r1a5z0y on Animar cascade

1 year ago

If you're not going infinite combos, I'd take out Ancestral Statue, since it's a one-card infinite combo with your commander. I stopped running it in my Animar deck because it feels so cheap.

The biggest thing I see is you need like 10 more land, since you always want to hit Animar mana. I'd also look into more creature cascaders instead of non-creatures, as creatures will get your Animar discount. Apex Devastator, Maelstrom Colossus, Etali, Primal Conqueror  Flip, and Etali, Primal Storm will add a lot of cascade power.

Crow_Umbra on Isshin for a Fight

1 year ago

I cut both Audacious Thief and Etali, Primal Storm a while ago and haven't really looked back or missed either. That's my personal taste though.

When I played Audacious Thief, I realized that it's basically a slower Phyrexian Arena without Isshin on the table; another card I don't really play much of any more. Etali is fun, but it's also very boom or bust. I've had some explosive plays with Etali, and I've had some whiffs. The lack of consistency, and vulnerability to removal for a turn rotation without haste was why I eventually cut Etali.

I've had Horn of the Mark on my radar, but haven't been in a rush to add it. There are definitely times where I'd rather be drawing into removal or protection effects more than I want more creatures. Regardless, digging through 10 cards to re-up on 2 creatures isn't too bad, but can be feels bad if you filter out other spells you may need at that point in the game.

Personally, I would keep Breena. I am biased because she's helped me close out a few games with her +1/+1 counters. My meta leans aggro, so my opponents more often than not let her stick around because they benefit, meanwhile I'm spreading counters out over my board, or stacking them up on Breena. Due to this benefit, people may aim whatever they draw into at each other instead of you. I've had games where she's reached 20+ power and proceeded to snipe other players once their life was low enough.

If anything, I'd replace Audacious Thief with Goldspan Dragon. It has Haste and Flying, it makes your treasures tap for 2 mana instead, and you're already running Professional Face-Breaker and Lannery Storm. The treasure support between those 3 is nothing to scoff at, especially if you can get at least 2 of them on the board in tandem.

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