Thoughtseize
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Freeform Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Historic Brawl Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Thoughtseize

Sorcery

Target player reveals their hand. You choose a nonland card from it. That player discards that card. You lose 2 life.

CommanderNeyo on Lord Tiago, Forsaken Spellbinder (Updated Again)

3 weeks ago

Personally, I would remove the following:

I would put 2 or 3 Murktide Regents in the mainboard, as the card is a powerful wincon.

Psychic Frog should probably come out of the maybeboard, as it works well with Murktide and is a powerful card draw engine and wincon in its own right.

You might also consider cards like Duress, Thoughtseize, or Inquisition of Kozilek to rip apart your opponents' hands.

While you may not want to net-deck, you may want to check out what are popular decks so you can tune your sideboard to match (or just go to your LGS and see what they play there).

TheVectornaut on Monocolor hell

3 weeks ago

Cool to see this combo actually being tried out. Depending on the local modern meta, I could see this struggling with both speed and consistency. And if you're worried about wincons getting countered, I'd also be worried about the combo being disrupted. Something like Vexing Shusher could help get past countermagic, but it doesn't solve the more pressing issue of post-sideboard hate. Liquimetal Coating has some redundancy with Myr Landshaper but Splinter does not. A single Disruptor Flute, Ancient Vendetta, or more likely a Thoughtseize into Surgical Extraction could suddenly make things pretty tough. I think the deck is also likely to struggle against creature threats, especially when you haven't resolved a Liquimetal Coating. If you're willing to splash into black, I think Tear Asunder is better than Shattering Blow while having the option to kick and remove creatures and planeswalkers in a pinch. And while I know you'd prefer to exile over destroying, Assassin's Trophy is also very flexible without Coating. You might even be able to bait an opponent into searching for a basic to Splinter in cases where they don't already have one. Path to Exile is similar if you prefer white. Adding more colors would additionally justify running more shocks or other 2+ land type duals of different colors, something which would allow you to use fetches stolen by Oblivion Sower more reliably. Staying in red, there's still Abrade, Untimely Malfunction, Brotherhood's End, Explosive Derailment, and Overwhelming Surge as options. A final card that i think might fit here is Wrenn and Six. It's just such a nuisance in Gruul decks, keeps you on curve with a single fetchland, can get back Buried Ruin to keep your artifacts online, and the ultimate can even let you Splinter repeatedly if the game goes long. As for sideboard options, that will always depend on what you're actually facing. Still, I'd probably focus a little more than normal on matchups with decks that run few basics or few lands altogether. As an example, Leyline of the Void against manaless dredge or Blood Moon against amulet titan. If you're playing against refined versions of decks like that, I think it's still gonna be tough, but you gotta do what you gotta do for the sake of the janky combos!

jonjonhholt on Pauper Scam (with Wildfire)

2 months ago

this deck looks dope! theres a new card coming out in edge of eternity that could be a fun addition to the deck

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legendofa on Grrr

2 months ago

What's the intent of Wall of Vines and Corpse Blockade? I know that having a direct win condition isn't the main priority of this deck, but I strongly recommend putting one in anyway. If you're trying to be the last one standing in free-for-all matches, you can't always rely on your opponents to 100% cooperate. The defenders are less proactive than other cards here.

Next thought is that the Liquimetal Coating + Splinter is cute, but the Coatings have nothing to do without the Splinters. This can be switched out for some other control options, or if you want to keep the style points, use Glissa Sunseeker. There's probably enough deck removal as-is.

I'm a big fan of discard, so I'm going to suggest the 1-mana options there. Anything from Duress to Inquisition of Kozilek to Thoughtseize will be a good turn 1 option. Right now, your 1-drops are all either reactive or passive, and this deck wants to start shredding fast, not wait for the opponent to build up resources.

Normally, I'd suggest Abrupt Decay here for general-use removal, but it sounds like your group leans toward the higher end of the mana curve. Assassin's Trophy is a similar option, if you can deal with helping your opponent ramp.

I'm a little more cautious about this next suggestion, since it's going to be very gimmicky, but a copy of Chancellor of the Spires can kickstart your Surgical Extractions and Extirpates.

SaberTech on Mark Rosewater's Statements About Enchantment …

3 months ago

I initially thought that it was weird that WotC decided that black should be the tertiary colour for being able to deal with enchantments because I thought that blue was in that position with theft effects. After thinking about it for a second though, I remembered that black always had a way of dealing with enchantments through discard effects. Black's limit was that it had to deal with enchantments before they hit the board with cards like Thoughtseize and Duress, it's just that those cards can hit so many other targets beyond enchantments that it slipped my mind they they counted as black enchantment removal (more like proactive counterspells).

It has been a part of black's mechanics that it has been able to infringe on the other colours' mechanical spaces a bit as long as additional costs in the form of life or sacrificed creatures are paid. I think that's why I'm ok with targeted enchantment removal cards like Feed the Swarm. The spell is sorcery speed and saps the caster's life to give black a 2 mana spell that deals with enchantments. Compare that to cards like Thraben Charm and Heritage Reclamation, which give more options with no downside while being instants, and I think that even with targeted enchantment removal it's still pretty clear that black is third rate in providing enchantment removal options.

Again though, Withering Torment is kind of pushing it. Maybe black shouldn't be allowed access to instant speed enchantment removal without having it jump through hoops like finding a way to reanimate a creature like Ghastly Death Tyrant at instant speed?

CommanderNeyo on Bob's Dadrock 8 Rack

4 months ago

I personally love Surgical Extraction in decks like this - if they have two of the same card in their hand, you can discard one through Thoughtseize effects and the grab the second for 2 life with Surgical - makes for a powerful turn 1.

It also works great if playing against combo decks like Goblin Charbelcher

Andramalech on Darkest Heart Challenge - Horror Tribal

6 months ago

kamarupa I finally got around to my review! Let's break it down piece by piece, but lead our review with gratitude and praise. You've completed the challenge! That's awesome because completing any task is worthy of a high-five. Now let's break it down:

  • "..To round it out, I included a number of ramp spells, draw card, lots of removal, and a bit of counterspell.." and you did! I'm rather impressed not only by the frequency and presence of your spot removal, but by it's costs, and efficacy and expansive supply. The level of removal reflects that you understand how to protect your deck, play a good game, even if the pieces you're protecting are glaringly out of meta. Who cares about that? We don't. I care about your competitiveness. And it shows. Solid 9/10 for this category, the category of competitive choices.

  • I'm going to personally comment on the artistic value of your choices, as it corresponds to the artworks in each card. Your choices are (to me) very apparent, and I refuse to complete this review without bringing special attention to the various printing choices you made, which led to a cohesive list of cards that reflect horrors, and horrific events. It's seriously worth checking out you guys. Infernal Grasp is a choice selection. And surprisingly? Hurkyl's Recall is also pretty impressive, from an artistic standpoint. It invokes eeriness, an unsettling swirled nature.

  • This series of collected cards and the artwork attached to them, reflects a lot of advanced choices and a critically-influenced line of decisions. You could use things like Dismember, and is only thwarted by the occasional off-choice like Thoughtseize. Not like it's the worst thing.. but I'm a critic for artistic decision. Some of your choices are fantastic, others like Chart a Course kind of break the illusion. I can't stand by this principle 100% because competitive choices needed to be made. I think overall for artistic value, I provide your deck with a 9/10.

  • I now need to address a fundamental issue with Mastermind's Acquisition; the gatherer ruling references that in Casual play this card provides no issue, but in a tournament setting- you would need to fetch a card '..from the sideboard..' of which, in EDH.. there is none. I reference this in some of my rule zero EDH builds. A sideboard DOES NOT exist in EDH, womp womp. I mean, it doesn't affect how I review or feel about your build, but I couldn't do this justice without mentioning this on the off-handed chance you attempt to go to an event with the deck.

  • Construction wise, I have a small gripe with including creatures that nowhere include the typing of Horror. This is because with my builds (albeit Wacky Arm, which was a joke of a build.) I chose only creatures that were Horror typing by one way or another. The typical typal support in Adaptive Automatonfoil and Metallic Mimic are not unwelcome for their competitive edge, but rather how I personally feel that it goes against the principle of the challenge. I will consider this a mark against.

  • Considering what I said above, I also want to acknowledge that you technically still included exactly 25 Horror Typed creatures. So you did it! My gripe above can't really stand outside of priniciple. Is it allowed? ...yeah, it's just frowned upon.. but what a deck otherwise! Time to wrap up this compliment sandwich.

  • Alright! Lets review; Aesthetic, Construction, Competitive. 9/10 in all categories. With regards to how you favored the challenge, I feel confident in giving this deck a solid 9.8/10. So little to comment about what to change.. it's obvious this deck is perfectly suited to the duelist who created it, and it's a great deck at that. Clap for you, and congrats- I'm definitely gonna say your build wins! (imo)

Thanks for inviting me to take part in this challenge with you! I've really enjoyed it.

wallisface on Kamarupa’s Challenge

7 months ago

I think Choke is a card you’d probably leave in the sideboard to battle decks that use islands. But I think Power Conduit is a good mainboard addition:

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