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Creature — Rat Shaman
(Black), Sacrifice a creature: Target player discards a card. Play this ability only any time you could play a sorcery.
Nezumi Bone-Reader Discussion
9 months ago
SynergyBuild Okay, well, you absolutely started it, but, fine, whatever. I stand by my deck, I think it's pretty good for what it is, though it could maybe do with a few small adjustments (trust me, I've combed through Gatherer for every 1-power black/artifact creature in the game several times, I used to play cards like Abyssal Gatekeeper and Nezumi Bone-Reader but cut them because the list was getting pretty tight, and I've considered the ramp package quite a bit).
I don't really care about this any more, honestly. If you really want to say that Nath of the Gilt-Leaf and Karametra, God of Harvests are better than Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker , and that Shirei is on par with Alexi, Zephyr Mage , be my guest. I still think he's tier 3, though.
1 year ago
While a mill deck in commander is hard to create, as most of the usable/good mill cards target, it is a lot of fun to play. Discard is a little easier, but not by much. Also, the best colour combination for this type of deck is U/B and Atraxa has two extra colours that don't really help as well as her ability not synergising very well with mill or discard. Anyway, you asked and I shall try to deliver.
First the milling essentials: Glimpse the Unthinkable is the best mill spell bar none and is required. Secondly Increasing Confusion is quite good for commander, as mana totals will get quite large. Thirdly, Mind Funeral is great, as is Mind Grind. Fourthly, Mind Sculpt and Tome Scour mill for 7 and 5 respectfully, which is not too great, so only run them if you feel like that small amount of mill is extremely useful. Fifth, Hedron Crab is a great one drop due to the mill 3 per land you drop. Also, speaking of one drops, Jace's Phantasm is a good creature that soon becomes great with mill and discard. Sixth, Nemesis of Reason is stupidly good as it mills 10 per attack! It doesn't even need to cause damage! Startled Awake Flip is a nice mill spell and recurs too. Another great creature, and my recommended commander, is Szadek, Lord of Secrets. His milling will get massive really fast. All you need to do is get him in unblocked. Use Rogue's Passage or Whispersilk Cloak. Some good beaters are Consuming Aberration and Sewer Nemesis. If you don't care about price, then Jace, the Mind Sculptor is awesome, but if budget is a thing Jace Beleren is a nice cheap replacement. Now onto the milling combos! Traumatize and Fraying Sanity completely destroy an opponent, as does Keening Stone and Fraying Sanity. Archive Trap and Ghost Quarter are great together, as is Maralen of the Mornsong and Archive Trap. Also, Ghost Quarter helps get rid of land for Mind Funeral and Mind Grind. Lastly, Jace's Erasure and any card draw is quite nice. Thats about it for mill, now onto discard!
First off you need Waste Not. It is beautiful. The Rack works when you have made them discard down to 2 or less, which is one of your goals. Quest for the Nihil Stone and Shrieking Affliction are like The Rack - dealing small damage when opponents don't have hands. Liliana's Caress and Megrim do small amounts of damage per discarded card, which is nice. Bottomless Pit helps keep opponents hands empty, as does Necrogen Mists. Oppression is awesome, as is Painful Quandary, and both together is god-tier. Underworld Dreams is nice little 'screw you' after they loose their hands. Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur murders everyone but you late game. Nath of the Gilt-Leaf is goddamn beautiful and breaks even more when you have Sadistic Hypnotist, Nezumi Bone-Reader and/or Mind Slash out. Another awesome combo is Mindcrank plus Bloodchief Ascension with three counters and any discard to an opponent means you kill them. With Dark Deal or similar you win. While these two things are great and all, you need some utility and a way to keep you alive when you suddenly become the target.
To stay alive, you need some pillowforts like Propaganda and Ghostly Prison. Cards like Frozen AEther and Kismet will help keep the opponent's board from becoming too overwhelming and Standstill will prevent spells for a small while. Psychic Spiral is another great spell that gets back all of your mill spells and it also mills an opponent for a little too. Talrand, Sky Summoner is fun with all the spells you are slinging, and he provides an alternate win condition. Another alternate win is through infection. Cards like Flesh-Eater Imp, Hand of the Praetors, Phyrexian Crusader, Phyrexian Juggernaut, Necropede, Putrefax, Plague Stinger and Corpse Cur all win you the game when they deal 10 damage to an opponent. Also, Skithiryx, the Blight Dragon is a good option but is quite expensive. Cards like Giant Growth make you win harder. Infect is where Atraxa shines due to the added poison counters to each opponent every time you finish your turn. Adding Contagion Engine might even make your opponents scoop.
Good God, that is a big slab of writing. Here is a deck list I made for you: Atraxa makes you loose your mind!. Tell me what you think!
1 year ago
I have this list Mono black deckbuilder's toolbox which has my big list of usual brewing cards.
1 year ago
I put together this less budget B/G version. Bloodbond Verminator
2 years ago
Hell's Caretaker over Apprentice Necromancer
1 v 1 game suggestion for unfun Hope of Ghirapur
Suggestions to remove: Necropede, corrosive mentor, plague myr, plagued rusalla, tree of perdition, sign in blood, death denied, Jar of Eyeballs,
2 years ago
halfyoung I like your suggestions, I agree that Rancid Rats might be too slow with the ninjutsu in mind. I actually ran Nezumi Bone-Reader in my first proto-type and I was considering Shrieking Affliction and Liliana's Caress. Thank you for the great suggestions!
2 years ago
2 years ago
Hey friend (: it's my pleasure.
First, for potential cuts: Bloodbriar (there are better options like Mortician Beetle), Agent of Erebos, Eater of Hope, Pharika's Mender, Skullwinder, Vampire Aristocrat (see Bloodthrone Vampire), Vampire Nighthawk. Also, depending on how you feel about your top-curve creatures, those could be flex spots.
I love how strong this deck is with ETB abilities and "when this dies" abilities. Treasure Keeper is phenomenal, for one. You've also got excellent one-shot sacrifice outlets like Devour and kickers and so forth. The permanent sacrifice outlets like Viscera Seer and Jarad are great, but there are few enough of them that you might have trouble sticking a sacrifice outlet.
So, what I would focus on at this point would be finding ways to cheat your fatties into play from the grave, and finding redundancies in your "permanent" sacrifice outlets. There's nothing worse than being a reanimator player with no grave and no ways to sacrifice creatures (it happens...and not always on bum draws). Splinterfright, Jarad's Orders, self-mill like Deadbridge Chant, and anything Dredge (like Stinkweed Imp) will fill your grave with creatures for you, so that when Meren has sixteen counters you'll actually have targets worth pulling. Disciple of Griselbrand, Nezumi Bone-Reader, Birthing Pod are all ways to get more sacrifice triggers when you want them. And don't be afraid to up your curve with Xathrid Demon or other high-CMC win-condition-like cards.
Then, I guess if you're feeling extra adventurous, I'd investigate ways to produce more tokens, because a lot of those sacrifice effects are still powerful for non-tokens, and tokens will help you go wide when you stick Pathbreaker Ibex. Golgari Germination, Verdant Embrace, Ogre Slumlord are all options. The worst part about GBx reanimator imo (I run Karador, Ghost Chieftain) is that the endgame is pretty grindy, so going wide with tokens is a must for me if you want to play a second game.
So, in summary, the deck is super strong in staples/ramp/card draw/core mechanics. Self-mill/extra sacrifice/token synergies are things you can pick and choose to personalize and make it fun for you, the pilot. Best of luck, and be sure to mention me if I can help with anything else!
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