Creature — Rat
When Drainpipe Vermin dies (is put into the graveyard from the battlefield), you may pay . If you do, target player discards a card.
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|Return to Ravnica (RTR)||Common|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Drainpipe Vermin Discussion
2 months ago
@Scallywallwest: Mind Rot is cheap, but Hymn to Tourach is a way better card. More expensive so it won’t fit into the 5$ budget, but discards 2 cards at random instead of letting the opponent choose, while being 1 mana cheaper than Mind Rot.
@5dollarMTG: thanks so much for the deck list! I really love playing it. Haven’t found any low budget deck which is better. I also added 4x Shrieking Affliction for of the Drainpipe Vermin which usually finish the game quickly :)
6 months ago
Good theme. A few suggestions...
I don't see how Gnat Miser is doing you much good in this deck, unless you're playing it on turn one. Even then, it loses potency quickly. I'd replace it with either Ravenous Rats or Rancid Rats, or maybe 2 of each.
I certainly do believe that you have a fully functional deck here. Essentially it's a tribal rat aggro discard deck. Low mana curve, plenty of discard. Play around with my suggestions and see how it feels.
6 months ago
Personally I think the logistics of the deck should always come down to playtesting and the local meta. That being said, here's what I'd change out from a glance. Also I avoided most of the discard to make room for card draw.
Remove - 15
- 4 Drainpipe Vermin - No evasion
- 2 Nezumi Bone-Reader - Resource intensive
- 1 Pack Rat - Even more resource intensive
- 1 ravenous rat - Terrible late game
- 4 Despise - To make room for card draw
- 1 Duress - Keep 3 to check for counters or board wipe before committing a lot of creatures to the board.
- 2 Barren Moor - Really bad in opening hand.
Add - 15
- 4 Swamp - Bringing the land count to 22 because a lot of cards in your deck still require mana for abilites. (Pack Rat, Bone-reader, Piper, Ink-Eyes)
- 3 Ayara, First of Locthwain - Not 4 to avoid dead draws because it is legendary.
- 4 Piper of the Swarm - Not legendary, earliest token generator, and works with pretty much everything in the deck/fuels Ayara and Marrow-Gnawler.
- 2 Morbid Curiosity - To fill up your hand mid to late game.
- 2 Read the Bones - More card draw
- Dark Prophecy - Extra value from sac engines here. Ayara should offset the life payment.
- Skirsdag High Priest - Rats heralding Demons!
You'll still have 20 rats in the deck, which should keep Marrow-Gnawler happy. Read the Bones and Morbid Curiosity are probably the easiest thing to change here for sideboard. I'd probably replace it with Throat Slitter and/or Okiba-Gang Shinobi (or two of the bonus cards) depending on the meta. Hope this helps and I wish you luck with you FNM =).
1 year ago
It turns out that there are lots of card that are marked as illegal in Noble that should be legal. Some of these cards include Corpse Hauler , Drainpipe Vermin , Necromancer's Assistant and Dawnstrike Paladin . Am I missing something? Or do these cards need to be fixed?
2 years ago
Modern is fairly flush with Counterspells and Removal, so I'm not sure how often you will achieve infinite rats Marrow-Gnawer (that said, hell of a commander deck).
Currently rats very much likes being a tempo version of 8-Rack, so I definitely recommend looking into that kind of strategy.
Thoughtseize, Liliana of the Veil and Collective Brutality aren't exactly budget friendly pieces, but the idea of disrupting your opponents hand with Ravenous Rats, Chittering Rats, Drainpipe Vermin etc. while beating down with Pack Rats seems like a game plan.
as for Marrow-Gnawer, he seems like a sweet transformative Sideboard plan against combo or even control.
2 years ago
Great idea! I'd definitely want to tweak the lands, though, because you dont need nearly as much green mana s you do black. Also really wouldn't run 4x Eldrazi Monument, because they cost so much mana and you only really need on in play. I think you're fine with just two in the deck.
You probably want some one-drops, either rats that might help you control the early game (Drainpipe Vermin, Typhoid Rats), or some green mana dorks to help ramp into more rats and/or the monument and Bloodbond March. Otherwise your deck might get run over by more complex decks before you have a chance to set up your combo. Some more control might be nice too. Tragic Slip goes well with the monument, as well as with creature-heavy decks in general since something is always going to be dying. If you can afford it, staples like Inquisition of Kozilek and Thoughtseize could be a good turn 1 play as well, to ensure you're not just losing a turn, and to get rid of threats that could disrupt your rats later on.
Another card I like for this is Claim, since it can bring back either pack rat or rat colony for just one mana.
2 years ago
Cool idea, dude. Unfortunately if you want it to be viable in Modern I think you need the normal Rock package. 3 Inquisition of Kozileks, 2 Thoughtseize, 1 Abrupt Decay, 1 Maelstrom Pulse and 3 Fatal Push. You're just not fast enough to beat the fast decks in the format. I'd also play 2-3 Collective Brutality, because discarding Rat Colony to bring the back later with Bloodbond March is the way to go.
To find room for this, I'd lose 4 Drainpipe Vermin, 4 Ravenous Rats and the Aether Vials. Using Aether Vial to dump your hand quickly doesn't seem to have the same impact as in other decks, as you don't win with great speed. Control is also not a huge problem due to the addition of discard. I'd also take out 1 Grim Backwoods for another Overgrown Tomb. 2 of those is too many.
Sideboard should be 1x Maelstrom Pulse, 2x Chameleon Colossus for black decks (and in flavour), 2x Damnations, 2x Nihil Spellbomb (card draw is relevant vs Leyline), 3x Fulminator Mage for Tron, Surgical Extraction for combo/Tron, 2x Collective Brutality, 1x Deglamer/Unravel the Aether and 1x Golgari Charm.
I don't know if this meant to be budget because those cards obviously bump up the price, but I think that makes the deck viable, haha
Sorry for the over advice. It was meant to be short, but just kept going...
2 years ago
I put together this less budget B/G version. Bloodbond Verminator