|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Duel Decks: Izzet vs. Golgari||Common|
|Duel Decks: Garruk vs. Liliana||Common|
|Duels of the Planeswalkers||Common|
|Portal Second Age||Common|
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Creature — Rat
When Ravenous Rats enters the battlefield, target opponent discards a card.
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Ravenous Rats Discussion
1 week ago
Maybe try Ravenous Rats for added creatures and discard? It will stick with the whole budget idea.
3 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
1 month ago
Nice, simple idea for modern. I think the secret to running budget black decks are a lot of hand disruption and a stable manabase. If you can find some of the more budget b/g lands, that will help. Llanowar Wastes, that sort of thing. Scythe Leopard, Gatecreeper Vine and Liliana's Elite are likely to underperform compared to some other dirt-cheap options.
General advice- go heavy on one colour so that you can pack your deck with cards of that colour then leave the other for later in the game, where you can afford to be paying mana with lands that come into play tapped.
This means either early game black (hand/board disruption) or early game green (Elves of Deep Shadow/Sakura-Tribe Elder). What you choose to focus on can then inform the cmc and gamplan for the rest of your cards. Either way, lots of 1 and 2 drops will help you survive.
I'll start with disruption options- Vendetta, Victim of Night, Smother, Geth's Verdict Bile Blight etc for creature removal, Duress, Black Cat, Ravenous Rats, Rotting Rats, Nezumi Bone-Reader and Thoughtpicker Witch for hand disrution are all solid choices that match your game plan.
Interesting or efficient creature options Rot Shambler/Mortician Beetle (growing threats), Zulaport Cutthroat/Blood Artist (lifedrain and victory without attacks with a sacrifice outlet), Dross Harvester (bolt and path resistance), Ogre Slumlord for rat tribal combo , Pawn of Ulamog/Sifter of Skulls for more tokens, Quirion Dryad/Vinelasher Kudzu for growing threats Bloodthrone Vampire/Indulgent Aristocrat/Carrier Thrall for vamp tribal, Nest Invader for more token/ramp, Boneyard Wurm/Satyr Wayfinder/Graveblade Marauder/Nighthowler/Splinterfright/Gnarlwood Dryad are all fairly functional for a more graveyard-reliant setup, and Svogthos, the Restless Tomb is a cheap and functional manland.
Sideboard options Elvish Eulogist(in an elf heavy list) Elvish Hexhunter Vampire Hexmage Bottle Gnomes Dryad Militant Delirium Skeins etc. There is a lot out there in these colours.If a lot of cards are ending up in the graveyard as the game draws out, spells like Hooting Mandrills, Gurmag Angler or Become Immense start becoming more valuable.
The question is always going to be what is my opponents plan, and how do I stop that- are my opponents playing Rest in Peace or smilar to deal with graveyard shenanigans, will they kill me before I kill them as every card in their deck is effectively Lightning Bolt, or will they be able to Remand all my spells while they hit me with Delver of Secrets Flip. Things that disrupt their plan are usually good, especially when they help your plan.
There are a lot of cards to much around with and play- I'd reccomend testing online before going hunting for things specific, focus on a single strategy when picking cards and if you choose to go less-budget, focus on lands first. Reliably casting spells is the core of the game.
2 months ago
I have this Mono black deckbuilder's toolbox list for mono black players. I'll quietly reccomend the sideboard tools of Pithing Needle and Ratchet Bomb. They really do significant work, one hosing Lingering Souls and the other planeswalkers. Asylum Visitor has seen some success in my versions of this list, but ymmv. Lashwrithe is another option if you chose to run Ravenous Rats and Rotting Rats, with Cry of Contrition/Nezumi Bone-Reader providing some extra discard power.
2 months ago
Black White discard is pretty fun.
I know this is a bit far from what the deck is doing, but it follows the same theme.
Have you considered creatures like Chittering Rats and / or Ravenous Rats? When paired with Eldrazi Displacer, if you get them empty handed, you can keep them that way. Chittering Rats has the bonus of making your opponents scoop because they draw the same land every turn. Lol. If you blink the rat before their main phase, they can't play it.
BerylLasko on Rats
2 months ago
LeeRoy_Jenkiins glad you asked! In the case for Swarm of Rats, most of the time it's a vanilla creature that offers little in the way of tempo with no ETB effects, it will die to just about any removal. Not very good as a 4 of.
So why just one, and not none at all? I figured it's a card that can be rather bonkers in the LATE game, usually comes out as a 5/1 or 6/1 when your wide enough, can trade with a lot of heavy hitters in the meta. For now: 1x Swarm of Rats, perhaps 2 max I think. As far as opening hand, I'd rather see Typhoid Rats, Ravenous Rats, or any of the removal.
Oh yeah, a lot of the removal I have is a one-of too. Hmmm, perhaps I just can't make up my mind here. I suppose I could just jam in a set of Geth's Verdict and call it good, but for now, I'm still playing around with the variety...I kinda like variety ;)