Mourning Thrull

Creature — Thrull

Flying

Whenever this deals damage, you gain that much life.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Freeform	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pauper	Legal
Pauper Duel Commander	Legal
Pauper EDH	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
PreDH	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (29)

CrimsonWings3689 on What do you want more …

7 months ago

I too would like to see less 5c commander options (outside of already supported 5c tribal/kindred like Slivers and the like), for all the reasons that have been mentioned by others.

I'm also against the changing of the hybrid mana changes. More often than not, hybrid cards fall into one of two categories:

• The hybrid card is either mediocre/not worth running over other better options, outside of "I just think it's neat". Ex. Mourning Thrull

• The card is a primary example of a card that's going to see an explosive increase in play, due to it allowing one (or more) of the colors present to do something it rarely/never gets to do. Ex. Waves of Aggression

Waves of Aggression is a great example of this. It is in no way worth $20+, but this teaser WotC put out suddenly has white and other white/non-red decks chomping at the bit to get an extra attack step spell.

Murkfiend Liege also has no parallel for blue decks looking for a creature focused strategy (ex. note requiring artifacts or additional hoops to jump through), so it's more of a pie break than it isn't.

Most hybrid cards aren't likely to make any waves or see any significant playrate increase, but the very select few that might see play, is already such a small percentage of the available card pool, that "the juice isn't worth the squeeze." Why further complicate the rules of commander, to make what is easily 100 (or less) of 536 more playable in more decks?

legendofa on What do you want more …

7 months ago

Can I offer something I'd like to see less of? There's been a huge surge of five-color legendary utility creatures. More than half of all legendary creatures with a WUBRG color identity have been printed since 2020, and it's starting to feel like there's a best option for everything. Why limit yourself to Sythis, Harvest's Hand or The Master of Keys when you could have Go-Shintai of Life's Origin and just include them anyway? Kenrith, Returned King and Sisay, Weatherlight Captain simply do things with pretty much no opportunity cost.

I'll grant that they're tending toward a tighter focus. But sometimes, I don't want or need access to other colors, but the five-color's simply the best available option. I chose Enchantress up there because I've been waiting for a {R}{G}{W} Enchantments commander for several years now, and other {W}{G} color sets have a couple of options. But five-color enchantments has two more options than Naya enchantments, and that frustrates me.

Caerwyn I'm going to poke at the hybrid rule here, since I see it as "letter of the law" vs. "spirit of the law". Sheldon Menery clearly took the "letter of the law" approach, in that Mourning Thrull is both fully a black card and fully a white card, and can't be used in an {W}{U} deck alongside Minister of Impediments. Similarly, the Minister can't be used in a {W}{B} deck.

However, the "spirit of the law" says that Sungrace Pegasus, Hushbringer, and Sky Crier can all be used in a {W}{U} deck, and Ballynock Trapper and Zhalfirin Decoy can be used in a {W}{B} deck. So it's an arbitrary decision that makes mana function differently in Commander-based formats than in any other format in the game. Further, cards like red enchantment removal and green one-sided board wipes, both self-avowed mistakes, are reasonably common. Why should an arbitrary restriction from decades ago allow overt color pie breaks while prohibiting extremely neutral cards that simply use effects available to more than one color?

I'm sure you've seen these arguments a million times by now. So I'll ask a different question. Are there any hybrid-mana cards that you see as being color pie breaks, that do something that one of their colors is fundamentally not allowed to do? The most frequent examples I've seen are the {RG} counterspell Guttural Response, which is a total break on the scale of Pyroblast for both colors so neither color should get it, and Augury Adept granting {U} life gain, which I believe is undercut by Sugar Rush. (There's a counterargument regarding repeatable life gain in there.)

A slight ulterior motive for that last paragraph: One of the things on my gimmick to-do list is to try to build a pseudo-Commander deck that actually uses hybrid mana to break the game and do bad things. My current starting angle is Leyline of the Guildpact + Bloom Tender in mono-green or green + one other color. So if you have any thoughts, please send them over!

AmoeboidChangeling on Sick Pauper Divinity Rush

4 years ago

Apollo_Paladin Hey, I like your deck, congrats for your build! I also want to give you some useful information that you might already know but might come in handy. Mourning Thrull doesn't actually have lifelink. This is the effect that you'd call "stack-lifelink" because, unlike actual lifelink, it uses the stack and this effect hasn't been erratad to lifelink (the only one exception is Loxodon Warhammer). The oracle text of Thrull also proves this.

This is good news for you because if you manage to enchant it with Gift of Orzhova, they will both trigger and you will gain twice as much life as the damage you dealt. This is a fun effect that I also use in an aggro deck of mine. If you already knew this, then I'm sorry for taking your time, but I like to spread this knowledge in the case of someone doesn't know.

Good luck with the deck!

Apollo_Paladin on

5 years ago

I, for one, would update this deck's Format to Legacy. I don't see a single Vintage-only card in this build, and I think it's safe to say it wouldn't stand a chance against a genuinely competitive Vintage build (really, Vintage isn't really played outside of special events/playgroups anymore).

Anytime I click on a Vintage build, I expect to see a lot of the Restricted list Vintage-Legal cards like Black Lotus , Sol Ring , Strip Mine , etc.

That said, I like the theme, it reminds me of a winning Pauper build I did for Friday Night Magics back when they were still a big thing (pre-Covid). It's so strong (using the exact same Nip Gwyllion / Edge of the Divinity combo) that it's actually stood up against some non-Pauper builds even; you can give it a look if you want: Sick Pauper Divinity Rush.

One key thing I'd look at in my build is Nightsky Mimic & Mourning Thrull , who along the same lines as Nip Gwyllion, combo amazingly with Edge of the Divinity.

TheVectornaut on

5 years ago

Hero of Precinct One and Tome of the Guildpact are some decent cards that care about multicolored without being so themselves. Orzhov picks could be Pillar of the Paruns , Beckon Apparition , Blood Baron of Vizkopa , Nightsky Mimic , Kaya's Guile , Ayli, Eternal Pilgrim , Karlov of the Ghost Council , Resolute Rider , Seraph of the Scales , or Vizkopa Guildmage . I tried to pick card suggestions that fit in with either the multicolored or the lifegain plans. Popular inclusions in more tempo or aggro focused Mimic/Divinity builds include Castigate , Orzhov Charm , Mourning Thrull , Cartel Aristocrat , Sin Collector , and Gift of Orzhova . Combine the two and you might get some value out of a shell of Ajani's Pridemate , Heliod, Sun-Crowned , Light of Promise , Wall of Limbs , and Archangel of Thune .

Anyway, now that I've probably named every black and white card ever printed, do let me know if you have questions. Good luck!

Zackary on B/W Pauper Soul Sisters Lifegain

6 years ago

i would take out Lone Missionary for Veteran Armorer or Lumithread Field to protect your creatures form Electrickery . Cut a Mourning Thrull , a Soul Warden OR a Soul's Attendant and a Plains for 3x Night's Whisper , you are going to need the card draw. Replace the Castigate with Harsh Sustenance or Unmake.

sideboard:

Take out Shadowfeed and put in Beckon Apparition , i think it will synergies with with the soul sisters and Edge of the Divinity by giving you a white/black creature token. take out Nihil Spellbomb for Relic of Progenitus , trade out the Swamp in the sideboard for a Bojuka Bog or 2x by taking out 1x Bonesplitter . Replace the Castigate and Disenchant with 3x Standard Bearer.

maybeboard:

Crimson Acolyte , Obsidian Acolyte , Prismatic Strands , Battle Screech , Rune of Protection: Red , Rune of Protection: Green , Epicure of Blood , Oblivion Ring

sorry about the last post with no hyperlinks to the card names. i am new

DemonDragonJ on Light and Shadow

6 years ago

Funkydiscogod, I actually used to have Nightsky Mimic in this deck, but I replaced it with Mourning Thrull, since the thrull always has flying.

Agrothorn on Light and Shadow

6 years ago

Cool deck so far! I always wanted to build a fun B/W deck with life gain tricks.

This deck is made for Edge of the Divinity. I just did a playtest and had a 7/7 Mourning Thrull swining on turn 3 lol. I think you can consdier dropping Gift of Orzhova. Most of your creatures have flying or lifelink so it becomes redundant.

I think your deck may need some card draw. Phyrexian Arena should fit given you have so many ways to gain life. I'm mixed with Vizkopa Guildmage. Second ability is cool, but not sure how much damange it will translate to. Gets silly if you can activate it twice. What are your thoughts on Tidehollow Sculler?

Although I am a big fan of Vampire Nighthawk, I feel you will have more synergies with your other cards if you dropped it for a creature with both BW in mana cost.

Athreos, God of Passage is great, but a little expensive.

Maybe you can try to fit one of Abhorrent Overlord. Can be a crazy combo with Deathbringer Liege on the board!