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Sundown Pass
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DemonDragonJ on How Many Dual Lands do …
3 months ago
I have 10 two-colored 60-card decks, and I have eight dual lands in each of those decks: four copies of the appropriately-colored shocklands (i.e., Godless Shrine, Sacred Foundry
, and so forth) and four copies of the appropriately-colored "checklands" (i.e., Glacial Fortress, Hinterland Harbor, and do forth), but I am wondering if I should put additional dual lands into those decks, such as the "slow lands" from Innistrad (i.e., Shattered Sanctum, Sundown Pass, and so forth) or the filter lands from Shadowmoor and Eventide (i.e., Cascade Bluffs, Rugged Prairie, and so forth), or if eight dual lands are sufficient, for each deck.
What does everyone else say, about this subject? Should I put additional dual lands into my 60-card decks, or are eight dual lands sufficient, for each deck?
DemonDragonJ on Innistrad Remastered Speculation and Wishlist
4 months ago
Previews for Innistrad remastered have begun, so here is a link to what has been revealed, thus far; some of the cards are not surprising, such as Emrakul, the Promised End, Liliana of the Veil, Blood Artist, Archangel Avacyn Flip, or Edgar Markov, but others are more so, such as Mass Hysteria, so I hope that the majority of the cards in this set are cards that players wish to be reprinted.
I hope that the original version of Avacyn, Avacyn, Angel of Hope shall be reprinted, along with Bruna, Light of Alabaster, Gisela, Blade of Goldnight, and Sigarda, Host of Herons, and it also would be nice to have either version of Liesa reprinted, as well.
I heard that the "slow lands" (i.e., Deathcap Glade, Sundown Pass, and so forth) may be reprinted, and it would be nice, but I still would prefer to see reprints of the enym-colored "check lands" (i.e., Hinterland Harbor, Isolated Chapel, and so forth), since the original printings of those cards are the only printings that feature the original artwork and are also available in foil.
What cards are other players, here, hoping to see, in this set?
Volrishan on
Boros Puppies
5 months ago
Some budget friendly land options could be Sacred Peaks and Clifftop Retreat. If you are willing to spend a little more money there is also Sundown Pass that could work well.
Craeter on
Heroes of Redwall Abbey
7 months ago
abstractfive This is a good point, flexibility is always helpful. I would say having access to dual lands here is not quite as dire as it is in 3+ color decks, but it's still useful. I'm not looking to max out duals since I still want some basic lands for Sword of the Animist tutors. But I did add 4 more dual lands: Inspiring Vantage, Sundown Pass, Needleverge Pathway Flip, and Legion Stronghold Flip. Thank you for the suggestion.
Optimator on
FIGHT ME COWARD!
2 years ago
Battlefield Forge is a cheap dual land. Sundown Pass and Spectator Seating aren't too bad
multimedia on
Bloody Box Social
2 years ago
Hey, I'm not familiar with MTG Arena, but is it difficult to get 4x of a card? I ask because you're entire deck minus lands is 1x and 2x of cards which is not good for consistency. Playing 4x of a card means you'll have more chances to draw it in a game where as if all cards are 1x then you may never draw that card in a game.
The color pie shows you need an equal amount of black, red and white color sources and that's not really doable with a 15 basic land three color mana base. Some advice is play Rakdos Vampires and only splash white with dual lands as well as 4x Secluded Courtyard for a few cards? Other than the dual lands the rest of your deck is low budget because of this I'll give lower budget card suggestions.
When you play tribal you really want a reason to be in the tribe. For Vampires there's only two cards here that are tribal, Edgar, Charmed Groom Flip and Vampires' Vengeance. Edgar is legendary meaning you can't have more than one of him in your control which sucks since he's a Vamp lord. Other than Edgar and Vengeance there's really no reason to be playing all Vamps and Vengeance is more of a sideboard card against aggro opponents then main deck.
4x Vampire Socialite can be a reason to play Vamps because being aggressive with Vamps then makes Vamps bigger when Socialite enters the battlefield or other Vamps after Socialite. Being aggressive with Vamps to take advantage of Socialite means playing more of one drop and two drop Vamps. Bloodtithe Harvester is 3/2 two drop making it a good attacker and Vamp to make bigger. Can also be creature removal if you need that.
Florian, Voldaren Scion has first strike as well as can be repeatable card advantage when you're aggressive with Vamps. He's good and can trigger the turn you play him if you cast him before you attack. Even though he's legendary you want to consistently cast him turn three, for that reason I would play 4x of him. Plenty of ways to discard other copies of Florian for value.
Socialite, Harvester and Florian is a nice trio of Rakdos Vamps. Voldaren Bloodcaster Flip is a flying two drop Vamp who can be repeatable source of Blood and Falkenrath Pit Fighter can be an aggressive one drop Vamp who can be saced later if not useful to draw.
Example Vamp core for budget tribal Vamps:
- 4x Falkenrath Pit Fighter
- 4x Vampire Socialite
- 4x Bloodtithe Harvester
- 4x Voldaren Bloodcaster Flip
- 4x Florian, Voldaren Scion
Next is Vamp support and Welcoming Vampire can be repeatable draw from a flying Vamp, reason to splash white. Being rare and expensive price might be difficult to get more of Welcoming. If you can afford more than add more. Nighthawk Scavenger has flying and other keywords making it a nice Vamp to make bigger, but it's power relies on your opponent's graveyard making it a better sideboard Vamp when you know what your opponent is playing.
Edgar, Charmed Groom Flip can be top of the curve Vamp and a reason to splash white, but Edgar at the top means that you don't need white in the early turns of the game which is helpful to cast black and red Vamps.
- 1x Nighthawk Scavenger: more in sideboard.
- 1x Welcoming Vampire
- 2x Edgar, Charmed Groom Flip
Example of Mardu with heavy Rakdos Vamp base:
- 4x Falkenrath Pit Fighter
- 4x Vampire Socialite
- 4x Bloodtithe Harvester
- 4x Voldaren Bloodcaster Flip
- 4x Florian, Voldaren Scion
- 1x Nighthawk Scavenger
- 1x Welcoming Vampire
- 2x Edgar, Charmed Groom Flip
Deadly Dispute is a good card in Standard especially when you're playing little creatures and Blood tokens. Infernal Grasp is more unconditional instant creature removal and being black is easier to cast then white removal.
- 4x Deadly Dispute
- 3x Infernal Grasp
- 2x Fateful Absence
Dispute, Florian, Welcoming, Fighter and Blood is a lot of main deck draw which can really help gameplay. This example needs red or black mana in the early turns for Vamps making 4x Secluded Courtyard very helpful because it enters the battlefield untapped and can also cast white Vamps.
- 5x Swamp
- 4x Mountain
- 1x Plains
- 4x Secluded Courtyard
- 3x Haunted Ridge
- 3x Shattered Sanctum
- 3x Sundown Pass
DreadKhan on
Isshin, Two Heavens as One
3 years ago
If you want a cheaper $ option than Grand Abolisher (or would like another card that can do similar work), Wandering Archaic Flip is a substantial tax on all opponent's instants/sorceries, but that tax matters most with countermagic, making everyone else's counters either very good (if you want the same thing countered for example), or very expensive (people usually consider Cancel unplayable for costing 3 mana). Archaic isn't as good at protecting your own stuff, but it's a way bigger effect generally.
You might also like Generous Gift over Disenchant, and I prefer Vanishing Verse over Fracture, but Verse is more of a competitive card maybe. Slayers' Stronghold might be nice, vigilance and haste are useful for WR.
For (potentially) untapped duals, there are a few cycles worth a look. Pathways are good (but no longer cheap unfortunately, they might go down after they rotate out of Standard though), Blightstep Pathway Flip, Brightclimb Pathway Flip, and Needleverge Pathway Flip are all solid cards to keep an eye out for. Luxury Suite, Spectator Seating, and Vault of Champions are duals that usually come in untapped when it matters, and are considered among the best non-fetchable dual lands. You could try the new cycle from Innistrad, Haunted Ridge, Shattered Sanctum, and Sundown Pass are good as long as you're not running a low land count, 35 should probably work. While Sulfurous Springs is pricey, Caves of Koilos is cheap, Battlefield Forge isn't bad either, they're always untapped and by mid game you usually just use them for colourless and they have no downside. Concealed Courtyard, Inspiring Vantage, and Blackcleave Cliffs are very good, some are really expensive once again. Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is a great way to make all your lands Swamps, handy for stuff like Cabal Coffers as well as just to fix your mana. Shadowblood Ridge is an untapped source of RB, which isn't a bad, but there is only the 1 in your wedge of colours, this land might be handy if you run a cycle where the RB land is really pricey.
Hope some of this is helpful, the deck seems pretty decent.
4rclyte on
Wyleth Voltron
3 years ago
Removed:
Dualcaster Mage, Fists of Flame, Blazing Sunsteel, Boros Garrison, Terramorphic Expanse
Added:
Shuko, Shadowspear, Fighter Class, Sacred Foundry, Sundown Pass.