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|2012 Core Set (M12)||Common|
|Tenth Edition (10E)||Common|
|Champions of Kamigawa (CHK)||Common|
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Target player reveals his or her hand. You choose a nonland card from it. That player discards that card.
4 months ago
You will most definitely need more removal. At least some Fatal Push ? And with the amount of discard you are running, Blackmail is probably better than either Distress or Horrifying Revelation . I would be careful of an opposing Chalice of the Void since this deck has many 1-CMC spells.
4 months ago
I run a similar deck actually. I like the rat theme too. However I would personally sideboard Distress and mainboard Burglar Rat instead and Smallpox for Inquisition of Kozilek . Maybe Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage would help too
5 months ago
honestly, buddy. I think you are trying to stretch this too much. I would first try to cut down to 60 or closer by focusing on the main strategy, which seems to be the Presence of Gond + Midnight Guard combo. From there, you need to focus on how to protect that combo. 5 colors is not going to help this too much. Green and White are essential. I think you do need three colors here. Blue is an obvious choice to help protect the combo and supply draw to get to your peices, or, you could go Black. I'd personally go black because it allows you to still use Sorin, Lord of Innistrad and flashback a card you don't even have here, Lingering Souls . It also does allow you to protect your combo by giving you access to Duress and Distress . If it were me, I'd have a skeleton of this deck looking like this Nick's Tokens. Haven't figured it out too much, but you'd also want a 2-4 pieces of removal in it too.
6 months ago
MoonHollow124 I'm really glad you like it. I would definitely include both those cards, maybe also some more removal. Perhaps Doom Blade . The main disadvantage of this deck, however, is if the opponent is running a lot of spot removal, so for that I would add some more targeted hand-hate in cards like Distress or more Duress . Also handling artifacts can be tricky in mono black, so maybe add a reset-button like Nevinyrral's Disk . Do keep in mind that this is a fairly casual deck, so if you are running up against decks like Izzet Phoenix or other really fast tier decks, you are going to struggle with this list. It is still fun to play though.
8 months ago
Duke.Fleed on Rats
8 months ago
There are a few options here. If you want to stay in mono black, you can look into dredge: Stinkweed Imp and Golgari Thug and Darkblast . In order to get these cards into your graveyard in the first place, you will need to include cards that allow you to discard. If you have the money for it: Collective Brutality is a fantastic way to do it. If budget is more of a concern then something like Dark Deal is ok but not great. You could always use Rotting Rats to make your self discard (its also fine if you mill it, since you can just unearth it).
One thing I just noticed is that you've got over 60 cards in the deck. It would probably be best if you kept to that 60 card minimum. This will increase the consistency of the deck overall. One way you could do this, if you like having a variety of different cards, is play a card like Mausoleum Secrets . This will allow you to just play one copy of niche cards like Distress , Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip, and Go for the Throat . You can also cut cards like Mind Rot and Ratcatcher (3 mana for that discard ability is too expensive, and 6 mana is definitely too expensive). If it were me though, I would just cut all the extraneous cards, not even bother with the Mausoleum Secrets and just focus on the rats.
If you wanted to do multi color (it will be more expensive though). I would recommend a few cards. Red-black is the route I would take. You get cards like Faithless Looting and Experimental Frenzy . The looting is good for dumping cards into your graveyard. Frenzy is a combo card that allows you to keep playing cards off the top of your library as long as you have mana (and as long as it isn't a second land). If you want to go the frenzy route, I would recommend Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx as a good way to make a bunch of mana and cast a bunch of rats. This is kind of a different way to play the deck and might be too muddy with the self mill plan. So I would either choose the mill or the frenzy plan.
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Let me know if you have more questions. This deck looks rad.
10 months ago
Blue-Black or Mono-Black, with some in Jeskai, Rakdos, Grixis, and Izzet
Really, blue has some reasonably good card draw, specifically Augur of Bolas, Mulldrifter, Preordain, Ponder, and interaction in the form of Counterspell and the occasional Deprive. Otherwise, they don't have a great set of wincons, sweepers, or removal, so they need another color to get those.
In comparison, black has Gurmag Angler, a great wincon, and the best removal in the forms of Evincar's Justice, Echoing Decay, Shrivel, Pestilence, Cuombajj Witches, Disfigure, Chainer's Edict, Oubliette, Doom Blade, they have lifegain, discard like Duress, Distress, Chittering Rats, card draw like Phyrexian Rager, Thorn of the Black Rose, Sign in Blood, and mono-colored payoffs like Gray Merchant of Asphodel and Tendrils of Corruption. There are even more great control cards from hate like Nihil Spellbomb, efficient spells like Cartouche of Ambition that just do a lot, land destruction like Choking Sands, more discard that is splashable like Addle, and the other following cards:
Diabolic Edict, Wrench Mind, Raven's Crime, Innocent Blood (for creatureless lists), Dead Weight, Crypt Incursion, Complete Disregard, Nausea, Reaping the Graves, Undying Evil, Read the Bones, Divest, Rancid Earth, Icequake, Dusk Legion Zealot, Okiba-Gang Shinobi, Tragic Slip, Crypt Rats, Stinkweed Imp
That isn't to say a good mix of both isn't the best option, it probably is. You lose the mono-black payoffs, but get Probe, Forbidden Alchemy, Soul Manipulation. Really though, black is more useful than blue.
10 months ago
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