Cinder Elemental

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planechase Legal
Premodern Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Cinder Elemental

Creature — Elemental

, , Sacrifice Cinder Elemental: Cinder Elemental deals X damage to any target (creature, player, planeswalker or battle.)

dickinsm on Omnath, All You Can Eat Lands

4 years ago

I would strongly reccommend decreasing creatures/elementals in favor of more dedicated ramp like Khalni Heart Expedition , Harrow , Kodama's Reach , Sakura-Tribe Elder and Myriad Landscape . In my experience if you can cast Omnath and then focus on triggering landfall you'll assemble a board state quickly. In terms of card draw Elemental Bond , Life's Legacy and Greater Good are incredible with those 5/5 elementals. Because Omnath is such an expensive general playing Swiftfoot Boots would probably help.

I would recommend replacing high cmc creatures like Bloodpyre Elemental , Silverglade Elemental , and Hearthcage Giant to speed up the deck. I'd also look at replacing cards like Pilgrim's Eye , Crater Elemental , Fire Shrine Keeper , Cinder Elemental , and Catalyst Elemental as they don't really have payoff without lots of mana or omnath, in which case ramping into a 5/5 seems better

hejtmane on Need help finding cards!

5 years ago

Yes here are some that can work with your commander Endless One , Hangarback Walker , Walking Ballista , Krakilin . Remember her ability will also apply for activated abilities Cinder Elemental Flameblast Dragon and oh this one works really while with the extra mana Steel Hellkite

hershycows on Grenzo

5 years ago

adding Cinder Elemental to the list for cuts

TheVectornaut on Cheap casual infect

6 years ago

I think without a really strong target like Invisible Stalker or maybe a trick like Cinder Elemental, Tainted Strike will be worse than just playing a strong infect creature to begin with. If you run more Plague Stinger, Ichorclaw Myr, Flesh-Eater Imp, Hand of the Praetors, and swap Contagious Nim for Phyrexian Crusader or Razor Swine, you'll be more resistant to removal and won't have to spend cards just to gain infect. You can use that mana instead on cheap pump spells like Titan's Strength and Vampire's Bite. If you do stick with the Strike, I'd probably go all in on creatures that benefit from it. Vexing Devil, Goblin Guide, and Monastery Swiftspear would be the usual suspects, but I have always wanted to test out Immolating Souleater myself. Grafted Exoskeleton could probably be replaced by or supplemented with Phyresis to speed things up, and I'd also look at Rogue's Passage for Whispersilk Cloak redundancy if flying isn't strong enough evasion.

NARFNra on

6 years ago

Soul-Scar Mage is really neat!

I tried making a deck based on it recently, so here's some thoughts -

First of all, even with all the Soul-Scar Mages, there are gonna be games where you just don't draw it. You might want to consider running Everlasting Torment, since it has a similar effect.

Even with the Mind Stones, your deck looks like it might run out of steam lategame. I'd recommend some kind of mana sink - like Kumano, Master Yamabushi, or even Cinder Elemental - or maybe another way to get card draw, like Outpost Siege. You can also try finding some way to make use of cards in your graveyard, like the zaniness of Mizzix's Mastery. Actually, speaking of cards with Overload, check out Mizzium Mortars - early game it's a single target damage spell, late game it's the best sweeper you've got.

Another thing that would help is pingers or other permanents that keep you going when you've got bad draws. Cards like Cinder Pyromancer or Grim Lavamancer can be really useful for pushing through a kill.

Circle of Flame is a weird card, but it might be reasonable in the sideboard - it constantly weakens creatures that attack you while Soul-Scar Mage is out.

One card I'm personally fond of is Shrine of Burning Rage. It helps finish off games with burn decks, especially if it goes long, and you can also use it to take out a scary creature if you're about to lose.

A really old and kind of ridiculous card you might want to try out if you have the money is Repercussion. It's kind of bonkers in a board wipe deck.

By the way, there's a really unfortunate situation with Pyromancer's Gauntlet and Fire Servant in this deck. If you have both Pyromancer's Gauntlet and Soul-Scar Mage on the battlefield, the opponent chooses whether or not their creatures get given more counters or not. The reason is this rule:

616.1. If two or more replacement and/or prevention effects are attempting to modify the way an event affects an object or player, the affected objects controller (or its owner if it has no controller) or the affected player chooses one to apply, following the steps listed below.

Since Soul-Scar Mage replaces the damage with counters, and Pyromancer's Gauntlet/Fire Servant replace the damage with more damage (they all say "instead"), the opponent chooses which to apply first - and if Soul-Scar Mage is applied first, the spell isn't doing damage anymore, it's just making counters, so the damage increasing effects stop applying. Note that with Everlasting Torment out Pyromancer's Gauntlet still works, because Everlasting Torment actually makes the spell have Wither - which means the source still counts as dealing actual damage that Fire Servant and Gauntlet can affect.

Looking at the cards you're using now, Sweltering Suns might be a bit counter intuitive since it kills your own mage - it might be worth swapping some Mizzium Mortars in in that slot. Chandra's Fury is a little weak for its mana cost - it does a lot to your opponent, sure, but I still think that slot might be best used on something else. Pyromancer's Gauntlet, as I've mentioned, doesn't work with Soul-Scar Mage - so I'd recommend replacing it with something else. Maybe Pyromancer's Goggles? I guess it still helps Chandra and works when Scar is dead, so you might want to keep it, but be aware. Fire Servant is kind of in a similar boat. Maybe toss in some Mizzix Masteries or Kumanos or something in those slots.

Overall, this looks like a neat deck. I don't expect you to use all or any of the cards I've suggested, but I mean more to just offer a variety of ideas that might be cool replacements for the stuff you're using right now. Good luck!

PistonGolem on Brian

8 years ago

Well, first of all, some of the cards are not standard legal, such as Nobilis of War, Lone Missionary, Foundry Street Denizen, Wind-Scarred Crag, Wild Slash, Martial Glory, Arc Lightning, Fortress Cyclops, and Cinder Elemental. You might want to move this to Casual or Modern.

About the card choices.The theme seems like a good aggro, just not consistent enough. There are way to many cards that you have only one copy of. Maybe some more experienced players than myself can be more specific.

Molesto-the-Egregious on

8 years ago

+1 for an Omnath brother!

may have some helpful suggestions!

Cinder Elemental, Vigor, Cloudthresher, Walker of the Grove, Stingmoggie

Happy brewing. :)

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