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Thawing Glaciers enters the battlefield tapped.
, : Search your library for a basic land card, put that card onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle your library. Return Thawing Glaciers to its owner's hand at the beginning of the next cleanup step.
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Thawing Glaciers Discussion
3 days ago
I've considered the Urzatron, but it just seems so unlikely that I'd naturally draw into all three of them. I could add Expedition Map but I'd still need to draw three out of four cards. I also have no way of recurring them if one gets blown up. The cost of adding extra colorless nonbasics over Wastes is not zero, either - I like having a lot of Wastes for Strata Scythe and Thawing Glaciers or for opposing cards that punish nonbasics.
The three worst nonbasics in the deck currently are probably Tomb of the Spirit Dragon, Darksteel Citadel and either Sequestered Stash or Arcane Lighthouse (because I have so few effects that target opposing stuff). I could see cutting these for Urzatron but I think still I'd rather just find better colorless lands that do stuff without me having to draw two other specific cards.
Worldslayer is a cool idea in theory. I think the reality would be if I did get through and blow everything up I'd just sit there while people who can play colored spells to ramp and draw recover faster and kill me. Could be sweet if I added more indestructible stuff to the deck, especially Darksteel Forge.
3 weeks ago
@hoardofnotions thank you for the help ! I wouldn't cut Kabira Crossroads because it sometimes help with casting Licia, but Scoured Barrens can surely go away. Winding Canyons would have been good if I had kept cards that would give me life during my opponent's turn, but since I was prioritizing casting Licia on my turn, there's not a lot of way to gain life on other players turn... On the other hand Thawing Glaciers is exactly what I need when i don't have my Mardu colors!
Sun Titan is very good, didn't think about it. Even more than just giving me back my life enablers, I can take back cards like Bastion Protector, Favor of the Mighty or Mother of Runes. I will add it asap. And surely,I didn't realize how many Vampires I have cut since the precon deck. I don't really want to take New Blood away, but I may need to...
As for Phyrexian Reclamation, I'm not sure, since there are only 17 creatures in this deck. It surely can bring back sacrificed creatures like Icatian Moneychanger or Martyr of Sands, but other than that, I think I'd prefer a tutor. Demonic Tutor is too pricey for me, but Enlightened Tutor seems to be exactly what I need : Can go search for Sunbeam Spellbomb or Sunspring Expedition for enabling Licia, or for any protection. I'll add it to the deck instead of New Blood
Thanks for the insight!
3 weeks ago
Sun Titan returns alot of your life gainers to play, could help play your commander and get you advantage
do you have enough vampires to consistanly cast new blood?
more graveyard recursion could be good as well, maybe Phyrexian Reclamation or something like it.
I really dig the deck, and the idea behind it! How you enjoy playing with it!!!
1 month ago
I would really suggest running Thawing Glaciers, it's a super powerful alternative to Evolving Wilds. Although you don't get to have the extra land hit the yard it would allow you to thin out the deck a lot faster.
1 month ago
Hey, Cool deck!
Maybe swap indulgent tormentor for Graveborn Muse?
Why are you running the artifact lands? Seems like you're just opening yourself to land destruction in the form of artifact kill for no benefit
Orzhova, the church of deals seem much to slow to be useful ,maybe add Thawing Glaciers for a land that keeps giving
Have you considered Open the Armory?
Swap butcher's cleaner for Loxodon Warhammer?
Maybe add Worn Powerstone instead of a three mana rock?
1 month ago
Hey hoardofnotions! Thanks for looking at the deck and giving me some tips! My take on them:
- Ghitu Encampment is not that important, but the first strike can take people of guard. I haven't had the chance to really try it yet, so I'm not sure if it will stay or not.
- Thawing Glaciers is a nice idea in this deck. I will consider it!
- The crypt is also a viable choice but I prefer the relic in my meta. It usually does not matter that much if my own grave gets exiled, as I'm not depending on it in the same way as a lot of decks in my Meta do.
- I think startstorm offers more in this deck, as you can cycle it and it can hit things this deck can't otherwise hit (since comet storm targets and startstorm does not).
- Ponder and preordain are sorceries and therefore will not enter this deck. Brainstorm is indeed a very good card and might be superior to artificer's epiphany indeed.
I will have a look at your list soon!
1 month ago
I really like the deck! I have some suggestions if you want them
Is ghitu encampment necessary? ETB tapped then a small creature that I doubt will scare people away from attacking you.
Thawing Glaciers is a great card to ensure you never run out of lands
Maybe Tormod's Crypt over relic of progenuis? You run some graveyard recursion so maybe cutting your own graveyard off isn't great.
Maybe Comet Storm over starstorm? Hitting precisely what's bothering you could be better than hitting everything
Maybe running Ponder, Preordain and Brainstorm for some card draw. Maybe over artificer's epiphany?
If you have some time I'm running an Izzet deck that I'd love to hear some feedback on, it's Jori En, Diving on a Budget
1 month ago
It really depends on what you're playing. Pods vs 1v1s and such. If you're planning to play in pods of four or so, you might want to try to add more of the stax cards Static Orb and Winter Orb would be a good start. I feel like cards like Stoic Angel help me when I play in pods.
I don't know if you're running Thawing Glaciers, but if you're not, you can try to run less basic lands, if that's what you want. It's really only good if you've got quite a few basics.
With Triumph of the Hordes's success I'm going to see what I can do to try to add a bit more infect into the deck, as an alternate win con for me. There's not really any main win con other than Commander damage otherwise for my deck, so it'll help make my deck a bit faster if I'm lucky.
Anyways I'll try to give it some more thought for some suggestions.