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Thawing Glaciers enters the battlefield tapped.
, : Search your library for a basic land card, put that card onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle your library. Return Thawing Glaciers to its owner's hand at the beginning of the next cleanup step.
Thawing Glaciers Discussion
2 weeks ago
Okay now the latest updates:
- Journey to Eternity Flip: With both Homeward Path and Volrath's Stronghold now available and with creatures being relatively low cost (the exception being Avenger of Zendikar ) I feel like this was just something that had to be done sooner or later. If someone is stealing creatures from the graveyard, just pull out the Homeward Path and get them back (also a good political card in these matchups). The only issue is effects like The Scarab God where tokens are created instead. There are just too many way to have this enchantment fall apart before it flips, and you either have to have the boardwipe in hand or bargain for someone else to kill the creature (which will most likely not be blocked, and players will rarely swing in for cheap damage while this is in play)
- Amulet of Vigor : This was added very early on and when the deck was playing a lot of tap lands and was focused around Scapeshift and Splendid Reclamation for big mana. However as time went on, and as Cabal Coffers + Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth was added, along with ways to search out multiple lands at once along with tutors, this card has felt more and more underwhelming. Only use I can really think is for a Thawing Glaciers + Amulet of Vigor to try and thin out basics from the deck but honestly the deck does that well enough already.
- Volrath's Stronghold : Fresh out of the post, excited to see how well this works as a utility land to recur creatures like Avenger of Zendikar , Dread Presence or even Ramunap Excavator . High hopes here.
- Boseiju, Who Shelters All : I will keep a close eye on the performance of this card. This should in theory help bring home those wins versus control style decks that aren't playing out Venser, Shaper Savant or spell copying effects that will cause an Exsanguinate or Torment of Hailfire to backfire.
The immediate future:
- Beseech the Queen : I have a feeling that this might be either a bridge too far (diminishing return on tutors) or the perfect include as it fits theme and the playstyle (generate a whole bunch of mana from Coffers + Urborg and just search out the Torment/Exsanguinate for the win). The cuts here will most likely be Mina and Denn, Wildborn as I have not felt their abilities being really that effective.
- More Basics: Sheltered Thicket will be cut to fit in another basic forest, also the basic land images will be updated for alterations once they arrive.
1 month ago
SynergyBuild, yes, they still can. The current sets allow for that to happen. Not really a legacy staple, but Goblin Ringleader just got reprinted in core set 2020. Force of will got 2 extra printings (not that it helped, since it was a mythic both times). Tarmogoyf is lower now than it has been in the past decade.
Force of Will - an alliance card. So, in order to get FOW in this type of product, you need Alliances Remastered. What are the cards people expect from there besides FOW. The next three cards in Alliances are Helm of Obedience , Thawing Glaciers and Lake of the Dead , Kjeldoran Outpost . All three are Reserved list, so a Paper Remastered set will not include them.
In fact, if you exclude FOW and all Reserved list cards, the most expensive card is Lim-Dul's Vault , which is a whooping 7 dollars. Hardly the pack mover. And it was reprinted in Commander 2013. Which means that they can do it again.
Overall, there is no need to remaster sets for a few cards than to simply reprint in existing products.
2 months ago
2 months ago
In a video with Rosewater he said they like leaving cycles unfinished as it gives something for player to look forward to in future sets. This was namely in reference to the sword cycle. I understand that and think it’s alright and not everything needs to be a cycle. But damn wizards 16 years to not ever complete a cycle of swords among other things. Thawing Glaciers
2 months ago
You seem to be running two copies of Voltaic Key ... I don't think that's allowed in EDH.
If you're playing Mono-Blue good stuff, I highly suggest Mystic Remora as a source of early card advantage.
In mono-blue, you might want to consider Back to Basics .
I don't think you should run Bonehoard , because your general counters the first equip activation.
Strip Mine is useful as a 1-of effect to take out The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale or other obnoxious lands. I don't think you need the Wasteland as well; you may have more luck with just a basic Island , especially if you choose to run Back to Basics .
Consecrated Sphinx is good as a value blue card. The card advantage is just nuts.
Good luck with deck building!
3 months ago
Depending on which browser I use, I can't comment on the deck page so I'll post here though I dunno if you'll see it here:
Played a few more rounds:
Game 1: I'm on the draw. Dude drops a turn 1 Arcbound Ravager , sacs everything, and proceeds to swing away with an 8/8 starting on turn 2. I take a profound beating but respond with Emmara, Soul of the Accord and attack, making chumps to feed his monster. He doesn't draw anything else after that and I bust him ftw. 1-0
Game 2: He's a little slower and only makes Frogmite and Arcbound Worker on turn 1. Ravager comes out turn 2. I get Hero of Precinct One and make dudes with Tajic, Legion's Edge and spank for 6 right away. He responds with all out attack. I block the Frogmite and he sacs out, pumping the Ravager up to 6, brings me down to 5, and finishes with Shrapnel Blast . 1-1
Game 3: On the play again. I have to mulligan, keeping two land and a mox, but make Hero while he makes Ravager and a pair of Ornithopter . He swings, I try Response / Resurgence on the Ravager so he sacs everything and makes the Ornithopter 5/7, just outside Collision range (in my effing hand, no less!). Whatever. I make a Swiftblade Vindicator while he attacks me down to 1, I throw Colossus on the vindicator and swing all out, pummeling him for 14... he's at freaking 15. One more freaking damage OMFG!!! Ornithopter finishes me off while I stare at the same two land and useless mox. 1-2
Game 1: On the play, I get no red mana but two mox and Emmara, and which allows me to drop her and Hero on turn 2. Next turn Aurelia, Exemplar of Justice and swing for 6. All I see on his end is Anticipate and Eldrazi Skyspawner . 1-0
Game 2: I lose one Emmara to Harnessed Lightning , a second to Thopter Arrest . Stuck on two mana and a useless Mox, I make Hero and lose that to another lightning. Everything in my hand costs 3. He makes Jace, Unraveler of Secrets . I find another land and make Legion Warboss , he responds with Eldrazi Skyspawner . This allows Tajic, who gets traded but I take Jace down to 1. Chandra, Torch of Defiance torches the Warboss, leaving me with a 2/2 and a 1/1 goblin so he makes Heart of Kiran which takes 6 from Collision / Colossus allowing me to polish off his planeswalkers. Tajic happens again only to fall under Thopter Arrest. Then Aurelia happens, pumping the goblin and this is the first time I actually damage this punk. Next turn, eleven, one Chance for Glory dies to Negate but the second gets through ftw. 2-0
Game 3: Vindicator dies to lightning, Emmara dies to Thopter Arrest, I drop a second Emmara and he plays Felidar Guardian to blink the arrest, kills one Emmara to the legend rule and arrests the survivor. I have Tajic but he's not going to bust through the 1/4, he topdecks Saheeli Rai . GG. 2-1
Game 1: I'm on the draw. Thunderherd Migration reveals Ghalta, Primal Hunger and pumped Vindicator takes down Steel Leaf Champion early. He then ramps while Tajic pumps Vindicator for 7 to the face when he drops 6/6 Multani, Yavimaya's Avatar . Tajic pumps the Vindicator again at a loss to himself while Warboss adds another, bringing him to 6. He then plays another Champion, then taps 2 for Ghalta. Colossus and the double-striker trade for the 12/12 and it costs me the Warboss and Emmara so I get him to 3 but I got nothing left but tokens. He finds a Gigantosaurus and sends 8/8 trampling Multani over. I've got 4 attackers, he's got 3 blockers and I topdeck the Planeswalker. I have another Vindicator so I offer him to the 10/10. We trade, then he throws down another Ghalta and my next card is a land. 0-1
Game 2: I keep two Clifftop Retreat and a hero and wait to draw a green while he ramps into Steel Leaf Champion , Gigantosaurus , then Aggressive Mammoth . I can make some dudes but not that much, he makes another 10/10 and Ghalta. 0-2
Game 3: Hero, Emmara, and Vindicator jump out the gate while he ramps into Gigantosaurus. I trade Vindicator plus Colossus for the big guy and cast Chance for Glory but it wouldn't have mattered since I had so many dudes out by that point. 1-2
vs. Stars n Stripes
Game 1: Early Tajic and Vindicator get in for sixteen before dying to Wrath of God . Hero dies to Incinerate , Aurelia, Exemplar of Justice eats a Force of Will , and Vindicator knocks him down to 1 before eating another Wrath. Out of creatures, Huatli sits there and adds counters until he finds Rainbow Efreet to eat away at her. I finally start to draw creatures again but by this time he's got two Thawing Glaciers being fed by Brainstorm and everything I cast gets burnt, countered, or nuked. Efreet ftw. 0-1
Game 2: Both decks get a slow pull, much to his advantage, not mine. Hero gets Incinerate, Aurelia eats a Force of Will while he digs for Glaciers. A second Aurelia + Huatli bounces off a Rainbow Efreet turn after turn when he finds his land. I drop Tajic and smash, pumping the angel and knock him down to 3. He kills Huatli with the Efreet, phases out, and taps out for Wrath. With nothing left I draw into a land clump while he goes crazy with two Glaciers, every creature I find gets swallowed by Hammer of Bogardan while hasty Tajic gets lost to a Dissipate . 0-2
Game 3: I gain some life early from Swords to Plowshares and then spank his mana-screwed ass with Tajic. Colossus saves him from the Incinerate and repeats the beats. Huatli grows while Tajic dies to a second Incinerate. Rainbow Efreet comes out and starts to eat Huatli, Legion Warboss makes a goblin before getting the Hammer. I'm forced to use Response to take out the Efreet though I probably should have done so sooner. He throws the Hammer at Huatli bringing her down to 5 and plays a second Efreet and Kjeldoran Outpost . Then a gross misplay leaves the wrong mana untapped, Tajic kags, gets fed by Colossus and Huatli sacs to add 1 for exactly his life total... his three land are two Island and the Outpost. Oops. 1-2 but he shoulda won that last one.
Game 1: I draw no red. He opens with Birds of Paradise and Wood Elves , equips Umezawa's Jitte so I kill the elf with Response / Resurgence and come at him with Hero of Precinct One and Tajic, Legion's Edge and spank for 7. He thinks he can stop me with Arashi, the Sky Asunder so I swarm him with tokens, save my dude with indestructible Chance for Glory , 5 damage get through and there's Colossus in hand. 1-0
Game 2: We both mulligan to six. He drops a turn-3 Kodama of the North Tree . Then Aurelia comes and pumps the Vindicator who eats a Saproling token. Kodama smashes again knocking me down to 3 while Llanowar Elves puts counters on Umezawa's Jitte to take out the Vindicator. No matter; with Aurelia, Hero, and tokens I've got 8 damage plus Chance for Glory and a +4/+2 combat trick on standby. 2-0
Game 3: Shanna, Sisay's Legacy comes, then Mox enables Aurelia to hit turn 3 and swing for 4. He answers with Loxodon Hierarch . I swing, he Seed Spark s the Mox and makes two Saprolings, I pump Shanna to save her and get through with two in the air, he answers with four on the ground. He then throws another Seed Spark at his own Pithing Needle to stack Shanna. I, pump to kill the elephant and he drops Yosei, the Morning Star . I play another Shanna and pass the turn. Yosei starts to beating and I make a Warboss. We trade blows, I get down to 6 and he kags a Selesnya Guildmage . My turn, I kag a Tajic and swing with just enough to force him to trade the guildmage along with the Saproling, he just made, leaving Aurelia to block the dragon ftw. 3-0
There were some cards I was thinking about that I no longer consider and others I'm more convinced of.
Mox Amber just didn't do much. 90% of the time it was just dead weight and even when it did do its job the best it did was bring me from 3 to 4. It doesn't give me colors I'm missing and when the Legends get killed it sits there worthless. I initially thought Lightning Strike would go here but now I think a simple Shock would do even better. Even if you don't draw it, the threat of instant damage should change the opponent's play to our advantage.
Aurelia, Exemplar of Justice I'm on the fence about. Sometimes she added just the right amount of damage, sometimes she looked pretty. Overcosted, she's the only flyer in the deck and sometimes that made a huge difference. I was thinking Gruul Spellbreaker . The advantages to him are haste, which was often the difference when Tajic, Legion's Edge , that it's not white though I don't see a lot of protection from white in Standard right now. He doesn't feed the combo, though that could be a plus. I dunno. I like the angel, just not as much as I'd like.
I request that you add this list to your sideboard so that it may be tested. There are dependent factors, such as are you more likely to go up against control/combo in which case Cindervines should be an absolute killer, or are you more bothered by the graveyard recursion in which case Return to Nature would be better. 4:2, 2:4, or keep it at 3:3.
Banefire I anticipate should be a control destroyer. Without testing we can't be sure, but I suspect it can double as a Teferi-blaster or a face-puncher just the same. It might be too expensive, not sure, but imagine playing Chance for Glory , bash with creatures, and then Banefire lets us throw the mana at him as well.
Unbreakable Formation is a total spoiler. The indestructible is similar to the Chance but if we don't have lethal on the table we can't take the Chance. (you like that?) Hold back in anticipation of Kaya's Wrath or even use in conjunction with Chance to pump creatures.
I put Shalai in there to protect YOU, btw; lot of the cards that killed us targeted the player.
Anyway so there we have a sideboard. If you try it out let me know how it works.
4 months ago
Reminds of the one I played. It was my 1st mono-black edh http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/25-01-15-form-blazing-sword/. I say look at it and see some of the unblockable ways to get damage through. Dauthi Embrace gives ANY creature shadow. Hatred lets you end it in One Punch Man. Prowler's Helm , Trailblazer's Boots are another great way to get through. It's rare you go up against a Wall or a deck that has 0 non-basic lands in the deck. If you need more ramp you can always go the Extraplanar Lens + Snow-Covered Swamp route it is one of the cheapest to do the process for they are .50 each. It may take a while but its so worth it.Add Scrying Sheets for sweet top deck ramp. Terrain Generator Thawing Glaciers also serve as extra ramp in black.
Thawing Glaciers occurrence in decks from the last year
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