Creature — Spider
Whenever Obelisk Spider deals combat damage to a creature, put a -1/-1 counter on that creature.
Whenever you put one or more -1/-1 counters on a creature, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.
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|Mystery Booster (MYS1)||Uncommon|
|Hour of Devastation (HOU)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Obelisk Spider occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%
Obelisk Spider Discussion
1 week ago
Nice! It's also worth pointing out that you can also put together a $15 deck just focusing on negative counters. In addition to Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons, there's Obelisk Spider and Nest of Scarabs as payoffs, along with cards like Decimator Beetle, Skinrender, etc. I tried to put together a deck like that awhile back, but I could never get it down to $5.
1 month ago
So with the new land you have a new win con and im excited and wanted to share the combo with you. Maybe you already figured this out?
In this combo you are using nesting grounds to move the counters off of devoted, the act of placing and then moving the counter nets you 2 creatures. Earthcraft then allows you to untap nesting. you can ether move the counters onto a random land or onto a snake or bug for infite death triggers too.
1 month ago
Hey this is a great primer! I've been building a Tayam deck myself though it seems we went pretty different directions with it. I had a few questions and curiosities and would love to get your thoughts / advice if you wouldn't mind.
How well do you feel that the mana dorks add to your ramp as opposed to say, adding more fetches and then recurring them later on?
I'm really interested in some of the higher CMC choices you made - I'm especially curious as to how you feel Meren performs in this deck and whether she's a "must include" for consistency. I''m also intrigued by your inclusion of Shalai, Voice of Plenty, would you think something like Keensight Mentor could also be a good form of getting counters?
My deck had utilized a lot of token generators like Bitterblossom and Pawn of Ulamog for sacrifice based value, yours seems to have a lot fewer and don't have any persist creatures - I'm guessing you still can get a lot of value. Do you think a bunch of token generators may not be really necessary in this sort of deck?
I'd also really like to know how you feel about proliferation cards - I was looking at cards like Pollenbright Druid and Huatli's Raptor to recur for proliferation along with Yawgmoth so I could generate enough counters for Tayam, do you think those are worth the slots, or did your playtesting find that a set up like this generated enough counters for you?
I've also been a bit curious to see if there's some -1/-1 Counter Synergy that could be feasibly worked with Tayam. The big reason for this was I figured you could always remove the counters from your own creatures for the obvious benefit as well as the value of Tayam's ability, and have a card like Hapatra and Nest of Scarabs for tokens or Obelisk Spider, Necroskitter and Crumbling Ashes and Channeler Initiate for other shenanigans to get a lot of value out of it. I'd love to hear what you have to think about that sort of idea. My main thought is that it seems like it'd be fun, but probably not very feasible / consistent.
Once again, really cool deck! Definitely deserving of a +1 and a great source of inspiration!
2 months ago
Hey, Devoted Druid + Quillspike is a budget combo that makes an infinite large power Quillspike. Add Hapatra or Nest of Scarabs to this combo for infinite Snakes/Insects. Add Obelisk Spider to this combo for a real win condition to make opponents lose all life.
Good luck with your deck.
3 months ago
Zakuzelo... you raise good points with Obelisk Spider... I haven't had it in the deck for quite awhile, but I guess I leaned more toward Poison-Tip Archer because I was seeing a lot of sacrificing among my opponents, and liked the fact that PTA triggered on death, not counters. But now that I run so many cards with counters, Obelisk Spider may be the better choice, especially considering its CMC. (I have not tried Yawgmoth, Thran Physician yet as I don't have any copies.)
3 months ago
If that's the plan, then I'm even more baffled by Poison-Tip Archer over Obelisk Spider. Cheaper, generates it's own counters, causes more and better pings throughout the game, including when you wipe out your snakes. Is Poison-Tip Archer's deathtouch that relevant, even with all the deathtouch snakes? Are there a lot of sweepers he's helping with? Are people attacking into your snakes when he's around? I just don't get it.
How'd Yawgmoth, Thran Physician work out, by the way?
4 months ago
5 months ago
Of course! Additionally I should point out that because the Mana Sink on Ishkanah is all you should really need, because once you've assembled the infinite mana combo unimpeded, Ishkanah should be the last thing you need to kill the table. Thus things like Exsanguinate and Walking Ballista are relatively unnecessary in comparison to the (repeatable!) mana dump ability on Ishkanah. That should be your priority, and having a Veil of Summer helps you resolve the Big Spider and so will Autumn's Veil if you feel like doubling down on that. Also, something hilarious I find a lot of fun playing around with (especially as a non-blue deck) is Seedtime . The look on my opponent's faces when the Golgari deck starts taking extra turns is absolutely priceless.
As a flavorful bit of extra spice, I'd also try to include Spider Spawning for more spiders and consequently more life loss from Ishkanah, as well as even perhaps Obelisk Spider for it's big butt to block Tymna and it seems to be pretty good considering Devoted Druid happens to be here too. I like Compost a lot, especially with the inclusion of Mesmeric Orb but I'd like to emphasize shuffling stuff back in with Gaea's Blessing here as a nonbo-prevention measure. Something like an Eldrazi Titan might also be beneficial here because of the shuffles-from-anywhere part, but Blessing works really well with Stuff like Entomb and Noxious Revival which are already here. Which is probably good enough.
If you feel inclined to do so, I'd like to remind you of Recycle as well as it's clone Null Profusion if you like playing Hot Jank, and your choice of commander seems to steer my belief in that direction. Seedtime is another one of those cards, which is why I mentioned it.
This is a really cool list! More unique legends need to see play and this is definitely one of them.