Creature — Spider
Whenever Obelisk Spider deals combat damage to a creature, put a -1/-1 counter on that creature.
Whenever you put one or more -1/-1 counters on a creature, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.
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|Hour of Devastation (HOU)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Obelisk Spider occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%
Obelisk Spider Discussion
1 week ago
Zakuzelo... you raise good points with Obelisk Spider... I haven't had it in the deck for quite awhile, but I guess I leaned more toward Poison-Tip Archer because I was seeing a lot of sacrificing among my opponents, and liked the fact that PTA triggered on death, not counters. But now that I run so many cards with counters, Obelisk Spider may be the better choice, especially considering its CMC. (I have not tried Yawgmoth, Thran Physician yet as I don't have any copies.)
1 week ago
If that's the plan, then I'm even more baffled by Poison-Tip Archer over Obelisk Spider. Cheaper, generates it's own counters, causes more and better pings throughout the game, including when you wipe out your snakes. Is Poison-Tip Archer's deathtouch that relevant, even with all the deathtouch snakes? Are there a lot of sweepers he's helping with? Are people attacking into your snakes when he's around? I just don't get it.
How'd Yawgmoth, Thran Physician work out, by the way?
1 month ago
1 month ago
Of course! Additionally I should point out that because the Mana Sink on Ishkanah is all you should really need, because once you've assembled the infinite mana combo unimpeded, Ishkanah should be the last thing you need to kill the table. Thus things like Exsanguinate and Walking Ballista are relatively unnecessary in comparison to the (repeatable!) mana dump ability on Ishkanah. That should be your priority, and having a Veil of Summer helps you resolve the Big Spider and so will Autumn's Veil if you feel like doubling down on that. Also, something hilarious I find a lot of fun playing around with (especially as a non-blue deck) is Seedtime . The look on my opponent's faces when the Golgari deck starts taking extra turns is absolutely priceless.
As a flavorful bit of extra spice, I'd also try to include Spider Spawning for more spiders and consequently more life loss from Ishkanah, as well as even perhaps Obelisk Spider for it's big butt to block Tymna and it seems to be pretty good considering Devoted Druid happens to be here too. I like Compost a lot, especially with the inclusion of Mesmeric Orb but I'd like to emphasize shuffling stuff back in with Gaea's Blessing here as a nonbo-prevention measure. Something like an Eldrazi Titan might also be beneficial here because of the shuffles-from-anywhere part, but Blessing works really well with Stuff like Entomb and Noxious Revival which are already here. Which is probably good enough.
If you feel inclined to do so, I'd like to remind you of Recycle as well as it's clone Null Profusion if you like playing Hot Jank, and your choice of commander seems to steer my belief in that direction. Seedtime is another one of those cards, which is why I mentioned it.
This is a really cool list! More unique legends need to see play and this is definitely one of them.
1 month ago
OptimalGreen: Yes, the issue here is Profet93's 100% Coffers-centric deck in my meta. Frequently I literally can't play Urborg without losing the game immediately, so out it goes. In an average meta, I would still run Urborg.
WarSpaniel: I hope that Profet93's answer was in enough detail for you :) The only thing to add is that executing this loop causes you to draw absurd numbers of cards (often twenty or more), but costs 1 life per -1 counter placed and card drawn. To not run out of life, it's important to draw until you find Zulaport Cutthroat or Obelisk Spider (or a way to find them) so you can gain one life each time, which allows you to not lose the game by life loss.
The other problem is that you can't do this infinitely. You can only keep going as long as you have creatures to put -1 counters on. But if you have Nest of Scarabs or Ivy Lane Denizen , this isn't a problem. Nest makes it so that with each creature you sacrifice, you make TWO tokens, so you can sacrifice an Insect to place a -1 counter on a Snake and repeat forever. With Ivy Lane Denizen, because the Snakes are green, you get to play a +1 counter each time you place a -1 counter, so you can place them on your own creatures and never go down in toughness. I hope that helps!
OptimalGreen: Profet is not me XD I've been super busy, though, and Profet plays against this deck IRL a lot, so he knows how it works. Still, we have different opinions on certain card additions, etc.
2 months ago
Here are my suggestions:
Life from the Loam : To get delirium, but with some fetchlands (or Ash Barrens , that is less efective) also can help you to get the 5 lands you need for Ishkanah, because with 22 lands sometimes you won't be able to cast it.
Nyx Weaver : Delirium enabler, and a good card for spider tribal.
Obelisk Spider : Another effective spider.
I hope this helped you :)