Obelisk Spider's second triggered ability + Supernatural Stamina

Asked by MrGameAndScotch 6 years ago

If played Supernatural Stamina on my Obelisk Spider and block any creature that wouldn't die during the Combat Damage Step (eg. The Locust God), does the Obelisk Spider come back before it's first triggered ability resolves, making it's second triggered ability resolve, too? Personally, I think yes, because of the following procedure:

Damage is dealt, the stack looks like this:

Top of the stack

Obelisk Spider's 1st ability

Bottom of the stack

Before anything resolves, Obelisk Spider dies, making the stack look like this:

Top of the stack

Effect of Supernatural Stamina

Obelisk Spider's 1st ability

Bottom of the stack

Only then the stack begins to resolve, so Obelisk Spider is back on the battlefield when Obelisk Spider's 1st ability resolves.

Am I right or am I missing something? Thanks in advance!

Shane says... #1

Just so you know, even if your spider didn't come back to life the second ability would still resolve.

July 23, 2017 7:01 p.m.

Shane says... #2

In the scenario you mentioned, after everything is over, the enemy god would be dead. You would have a tapped spider. They would be down 1 life and you would be up one life.

July 23, 2017 7:04 p.m.

Hey Shane, you're right. I didn't account the +2/+0 Supernatural Stamina gives you. But regarding the second ability resolving even if Obelisk Spider doesn't come back: The oracle text says otherwise:

If Obelisk Spider deals combat damage to a creature at the same time Obelisk Spider is dealt lethal damage, its first triggered ability will put a -1/-1 counter on the other creature. However, because Obelisk Spider has left the battlefield before that ability resolves, its last ability wont trigger.

July 23, 2017 7:06 p.m. Edited.

Shane says... #4

That's dumb, I figured both would trigger before it left.

July 23, 2017 7:41 p.m.

Neotrup says... Accepted answer #5

The first ability triggers off of combat damage, but is not put onto the stack until after state-based actions are checked. This means, when you get priority to put triggers on the stack, both the -1/-1 counter trigger and the return to battlefield trigger will be waiting to be put on the stack. Because you control both triggers you'll choose the order you put them on the stack and essentially get to choose whether the spider will return to see the -1/-1 counter be put on or not.

July 23, 2017 11:51 p.m.

Thank you Neotrup, that was a top notch answer!

July 24, 2017 4:35 a.m.

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