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Wither (This deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters.)
At the beginning of your upkeep, put a -1/-1 counter on each nonblack creature.
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Midnight Banshee Discussion
2 days ago
2 months ago
Wow! Quite a few comments to respond to!
smashadams83: Hmmm. Of those, I really do need to acquire a Phyrexian Tower and find a slot for Eternal Witness. Not too much of a fan of Necrotic Ooze when it only works for one combo, but I'll consider it :) you're correct on the creature count, but there's a limiting factor where I have to have enough -1 counter granting effects...
seshiro_of_the_orochi: I'd expect this comment with a name like that! Honestly, I used to run him, but as a six-drop I'm not sure he does enough to justify his inclusion. If this deck ever shifts to be more combat-focussed again, he'll probably go back in.
KongMing: Thanks for the comment! Hapatra is un-American scum, confirmed. I used to run Shisato, Whispering Hunter in the past, but unless an opponent is tapped out he doesn't do as much as I'd want. The others seem too mana-intensive for their effects, I'm afraid.
GrimReaper0602: While Harbinger of Night and Midnight Banshee have some issues, they're also some of my only ways to place -1 counters on all creatures on the battlefield. Until more effects are printed that can do so, I can't easily remove them.
Flint2: I completely agree that Midnight Banshee+Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons+Obelisk Spider is a nasty piece of work, haha. I've enjoyed it a lot whenever I've pulled it off. I'll pass on the token-doublers, though.
Thanks you all for your comments!
2 months ago
Consider Midnight Banshee
And get rid of Liliana, Death Wielder and Liliana's Influence, she is a total bait and really bad. Also Second Harvest is at best mediocre if your main strategy is not token. It is -1/-1 counters and you should be careful with additional strategies.
Go up on artifact and enchantment removal, play Skullclamp and more draw and ramp in general is my suggestion.
2 months ago
I disagree entirely about Midnight Banshee. Killing all of your own green tokens is a Benefit, not a hindrance. Sure almost all of your tokens get replaced with new tokens that have Summoning Sickness (assuming you don't have Eldrazi Monument, Beastmaster Ascension, or Oran Reef online) but your cards like Blowfly Infestation and Blood Artist just go nuts.
I also like Dictate of Erebos, but its better if you have a sac outlet.
If you'd like to take a look and compare mine is An Entirely Harmless Box of Fish (EDH Edition) but keep in mine that deck is held back by only being 40% EDH Deck and 60% Brawl Deck.
3 months ago
A few updates, after play testing heavily against exclusively burn I have learned it's a pretty hard matchup for the deck... To compensate I removed the 2 Midnight Banshee as I found they were too expensive and rarely got round to playing them. In place I added an extra copy of Scar as TheRustMage20 suggested, it's useful when combined with pretty much everything in the deck for only 1 mana and an extra copy of Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons as LuxCannonator suggested because it was always useful to see her face pop up in my starting hand. Another point made to me was that Bloodbraid Elf would get incredible value out of my deck so I'm trying to order a couple of copies of it to probably run in place of the 2 copies of The Scorpion God.
4 months ago
You'll want some faster card draw and creatures, and more go-wide pay offs. Disciple of Bolas, Zulaport Cutthroat, Falkenrath Noble, Blood Artist, Grim Backwoods, Sangromancer, Rogue's Passage, Whip of Erebos are all good cards to add.
Midnight Banshee is a major nonbo in your deck. It kills all of your snakes that you get from it, as well as many of your other creatures.
For lands you'll want to avoid tapped lands that dont further your game plan some how. Replace with basics or fast-duals: Foul Orchard, Golgari Guildgate, Golgari RotFarm, Jungle Hollow, Khalni Garden, Mortuary Mire, Oran-Rief, the Vastwood, Cabal Stronghold. Manabasecrafter.com provides a very helpful list of every mana source you can play given your commander.
5 months ago
So it seems like the plan of your deck is to generate lots of snake tokens. I think Harbinger of Night and Midnight Banshee are worth an include even if it kills your snakes, since Hapatra's ability will make new snakes anyway. The Banshee spares Hapatra. Champion of Lambholt will grow pretty big and makes your creatures unblockable. Mikaeus, the Unhallowed has so much synergy with a -1/-1 deck that you should consider including it to save your creatures. Eldrazi Monument and Smothering Abomination should work well if you have lots of snakes to sacrifice as well. Razaketh, the Foulblooded lets you tutor whatever you need. Harvester of Souls and Symbiotic Deployment should draw you lots of cards. You probably need more ramp to cast some of your bigger cards. I would suggest cutting Spontaneous Generation, Myriarch, Durable Handicraft, and Praetors' Counsel.
6 months ago
@lukas96 I feel like you've misconstrued one of the win cons as the only win con; which just isn't true. Sure Midnight Banshee only applies to non-black creatures, but this is meant to be a budget casual idea to build off of, not a competitive net-deck to crush the competition.
There's also a part of me that feels you're analyzing this deck under the light of it being used in a 1v1 format, rather than multiplayer which tends to play at a slower pace (example: 4-6 player FFA).
I agree on the basis that there are likely better options for cards such as Midnight Banshee, that could fill the same role; but this applies to most if not all decks.
Thanks for taking the time to comment back-to-back though!