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Imp's Mischief
Instant
Change the target of target spell with a single target. You lose life equal to that spell's converted mana cost/mana value.
clayperce on
The Black Deck
14 hours ago
ALostWanderer -
Saw your help tag so thought I'd reach out. As a disclaimer though: I've never played Tergrid (vs or myself) and I'm still working on my first Bracket 4 deck myself. So please take all this as "brainstorming", not as "recommendations" ! :-D
FIRST THOUGHTS: MANA BASE AND MANA CURVE
- I love Salubrious Snail's manabase tool for analysing my lands, mana rocks, and rituals as I tweak a deck. If we plug your decklist in, it reports "your manabase is struggling, playing your spells 0.99 turns late on average" (with Tergid over 1.3 turns late). For Bracket 4, you'll probably want to aim for something like "... strong playing your spells [~0.2] turns late on average."
- As you tweak the deck, I rec' taking an especially hard look at your 5-drops (which compete directly with Tergrid) and your 7-drops (which compete directly with her re-cast).
MORE B4 STAPLES? Some options to help find the cards we need and play them quickly …
- Card Advantage: Phyrexian Arena, Dark Confidant
- Tutors: Case of the Stashed Skeleton, Demonic Tutor, Diabolic Intent
- Fast Mana: Dark Ritual, Lotus Petal, Mox Amber
MORE DISCARD EFFECTS, MAYBE?
- As I understand it, Tergrid can sometimes be challenging to play because there are fewer and fewer good targets for her sac trigger as the stax effects pile up + token decks can sometimes run away with games. If you encounter that sometimes, leaning harder into her discard trigger may be an answer.
- Some options here, in no particular order: Syphon Mind, Liliana's Triumph, Thoughtseize, The Raven Man, Geth's Grimoire, Elderfang Disciple, Tinybones, Trinket Thief, Virus Beetle, Cunning Lethemancer, Aclazotz, Deepest Betrayal, Bottomless Pit, Desolation, Necrogen Mists, Oppression, Geier Reach Sanitarium, Chain of Smog
MORE PROTECTION, MAYBE? If you find yourself needing just a touch more protection for your Bracket 4 meta: Cavern of Souls, Imp's Mischief, and oc Lightning Greaves and Swiftfoot Boots.
MORE COMBO PIECES, MAYBE?
- As far as I can tell, you only have 2x combos in the deck (any lifegain effect + Exquisite Blood + either Sanguine Bond or Vito, Thorn of the Dusk Rose) ... increasing the combo potential (and Tutor effects, to find the pieces) is definitely solid approach to make the deck more competitive in Bracket 4.
- The Find my Combos page over at Commander Spellbook is a great tool, if you want to lean into combos more.
MORE STAX EFFECTS, MAYBE?
- It’s hard to go wrong with the namesake card (Smokestack) in a Stax deck :-)
- If you wanted to lean into Mass Land Denial a little more, I like both Contamination and Desolation.
A FEW FINAL THOUGHTS:
- You might consider adding Feed the Swarm and/or Withering Torment ... they're IMO the best tools we have to deal with enchantments in Mono-B.
- Braids, Arisen Nightmare maybe? I play Sephiroth, Fabled SOLDIER and she's amazing there ... I don’t get that many sacs from her (so she may not be as good in your deck), but her card draw is always superb.
- I'm a fan of Malakir Rebirth, as protection when I need it and a Land when I don't.
- I don't see anything that benefits from Reliquary Tower ... it would honestly be my first drop.
- It's a totally small thing, but if you don't already have very distinct deck sleeves, you might consider getting some ... the last time I played vs a steal-your-things Commander everyone at the table had blue matte sleeves, and sorting out the cards afterwards was a bit of a pain :-D
Anyways, I really hope something in there ^^ proves useful, and I’m very sorry for the spam if it doesn't!
Good luck (and good skill) with the deck!
Cheers!
MilesHiles on
The King in Black
2 weeks ago
Thanks for all of the suggestions! I think I will probably go to add Mind Stone in addition to Charcoal Diamond since Venom costs 5 the deck has a higher curve as is. Cabal Stronghold is in the deck basically as a second Cabal Coffers option that taps for other mana. Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is a pretty key part to making both work but the deck has a lot of search to cover the gap most of the time. I like Volrath's Stronghold but that'll be a late add since it's a higher cost card and this deck is jank at best. I tried Imp's Mischief before but didn't make good use of it. I like the card but haven't found what I want to pull for it. I probably won't add a Nim Deathmantle combo since I already run one in another deck. Helm of Obedience sounds like a fun two card combo maker though and I'll definitely be looking to add one in.
Profet93 on
The King in Black
2 weeks ago
Mind Stone > charcoal diamond. You are mono black with a super easy land base, draw takes priority over colors, not to mention you can use it the same turn
Do you feel 18 basic swamps is enough for cabal stronghold? You need 4 basics just to break even, 5 to get barely extra. Might as well swap it out for something that can assist you more like Buried Ruin to get back aetherflux or bolas citadel. Deserted Temple can untap coffers or be used politically. Thespian's Stage is nice to copy coffers or opposing utility land. Volrath's Stronghold is helpful recursion and in a pinch, can bring ur commander from grave to top deck, at the cost of your draw per turn, should he become to expensive to cast.
Imp's Mischief - Similar to withering boon, it can be used very well. It "counters" counter spells while redirecting targeted draw, removal, extra turns and more! Bluff like the blue player.
This seems like a very good stuff deck rather than a commander focused deck. Might consider adding the Grave Titan + Ashnod's Altar + Nim Deathmantle combo. Each card is good on it's own for the most part.
Or simply add in a Helm of Obedience to go with ur leyline or daruthi voidwalker for combo
DarkKiridon on
*Dumpster Diving Racoon [Primer]
1 month ago
Oof, what a deck. Not my wheelhouse (besides my Dragon's Approach deck) but I'll give it a whirl.
Here's some more removal and other card ideas.
Return the Favor I love this one!
Red Elemental Blast and/or Pyroblast. You never know? Or they could be dead draws?
I love Seize the Spotlight.
Toxic Deluge incase you fall behind?
I wonder how Bloodchief Ascension would do in here?
theNeroTurtle on
Ratatouille, the Movie - Let's Cook
1 month ago
Buried Ruin for sure needs to go in for recursion. I don't really feel like the tribe CMC is high enough to work with Urza's Incubator.
Imp's Mischief sounds cool. I will have to think on that one a bit. Like you, I feel like draw is my weakest link here. I don't really know what cards would be best outside of Bolas's Citadel and The One Ring. When I look at the draw spells, including the ones already in the deck, I honestly am not that impressed with any of them.
draw is for sure what needs to be focused on.
Profet93 on
Ratatouille, the Movie - Let's Cook
1 month ago
Do u feel u have enough draw? Read the Bones and Syphon Mind are good budget options to add in placement of or in addition to sign in blood + night's whisper
Urza's Incubator - Ramp for ur commander + other bigger dudes or is it not needed?
Imp's Mischief - Redirect targeted removal, draw, extra turns and can "counter" counter spells
Shizo, Death's Storehouse > Rogue's passage
You do not have enough basics to warrant stranghold, especially in this type of deck. Assuming you get 4x swamps + stronghold, it doesn't do much. It might be helpful late game but with your avg cmc, you should get something more impactful to your plans. Even something as simple as a Buried Ruin to recur an important artifact or Deserted Temple to untap your big mana lands or act as a political tool.
Profet93 on
Docta Yawgdaddy-CEDH
2 months ago
Winding Canyons > Emergence Zone? - More expensive to use, RL, and only limited to creatures but worth potentially considering.
Bubbling Muck > Rain of Filth? - Not instant speed, symmetrical, but not nearly as all in while still providing some benefit.
Imp's Mischief - Redirect targeted removal, draw, extra turns and can "counter" counterspells.
SufferFromEDHD on
Let the Nightmare Go On..
4 months ago
Demonic Collusion discard AND tutor
Dark Petition tutor AND ritual
Lion's Eye Diamond ritual AND discard
Argentum Masticore discard AND interaction
Incarnation Technique > Afterlife from the Loam
Imp's Mischief and/or Temporal Extortion your mono black deck could benefit from some "" spells
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