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Argeaux says... #1

Good going with Serious Infection!

I must admit, Modern is a big mystery to me.

It's not a format I think I'll ever bother with.

February 17, 2017 3:23 p.m.

Argeaux says... #2

I've been accused of being horrible to people on this site.

It's true in a way - I give as good as I get.

I am loyal to a fault.

Fuck with one of my mates and you will most DEFINITELY find out that you have picked the wrong person to fuck with.

Gotcha back.

February 17, 2017 3:20 p.m.

clayperce says... #3

Geo67 and Argeaux,
Just a few more thoughts on Craig Wescoe's Dogs in Boats - Original:

  • I really do appreciate your thoughts and recommendations, but I went ahead an changed it around. I could frankly care less about making multimedia (not linked) happy, but I figured the change was worthwhile, just to reduce the chance of someone being distracted from my main point ("The coolness that is Craig's deck") in the future.
  • I've found it interesting that people who assume positive intent in others almost always are cool people with positive intent themselves. I've also found the opposite to be true ... people who cannot even imagine someone posting a deck just to share it with others are almost always dicks with some kind of bizarre back-stabbing intent. Just sayin' ...

Thanks to both of you for being firmly in the first category!

February 17, 2017 2:30 p.m.

Argeaux says... #4

Just for the record I think it's very uncool for multimedia to have posted in your deck comments the way s/he did.

That could have been posted on your wall.

We both have each other blocked, so I'd say we have had words in the past.

Nasty work.

February 17, 2017 8:51 a.m.

Argeaux says... #5

The "match reports" you've been writing don't really tell a story about how games have played out.

There's no feel for misplays, finding out different ways that the deck works, or changing plays based on your Opponent.

February 17, 2017 2:46 a.m.

Argeaux says... #6

Maybe writing up a match report after a session of playing a deck in MTGO would give a better indication of what it does well and where it needs shoring up.

What its good and bad matchups are.

February 16, 2017 7:09 a.m.

buildingadeck says... #7

I'm glad it got to you, friend. :)

February 15, 2017 3:14 p.m.

Argeaux says... #8

I want to say something to you and I'm not really sure how to word it. I hope you can take it in the spirit in which it is intended, which is to help.

I've noticed that you mostly determine whether or not you think a deck works solely through playtesting.

While playtesting is a good way to see if a deck idea basically works, and how to tweak it for the local meta, it is not a good way of determining whether or not a deck will actually work at tournament level.

There are too many other factors to consider - the skill of the players, how well they know the Oponent's deck, how well they know each other, whether they are aggressive or defensive players, etc.

There have been decks that have achieved the number 1 spot on Tappedout that have failed when played at an FNM.

I generally look for match reports about how a deck has performed, before I consider it a good deck.

February 15, 2017 8:05 a.m.

Delta-117 says... #9

Got first at a gameday! Now I also earned store credit to buy myself another Windswept Heath for infect! Played my original g/b delirium except with a foil Decimator of the Provinces and now some Fatal Push's.

February 11, 2017 9:48 p.m.

Argeaux says... #10

I know it's already been said but I think Wizards REALLY dropped the ball with AER Standard.

Did they really think that people weren't going to optimise and play the infinite combos?

Why give so much love to when it was already strong?

They claimed to drop the ban hammer in order to diversify the format, and now most people are playing one of three decks.

Last night was the first time I've played in the AER Standard season and a LOT of people were like you and me - saying they just didn't want to play one of the top decks as they don't seem that fun. They said that ESPECIALLY about the Felidar Guardian + Saheeli Rai (Crazy Cat Lady) infinite combo.

Then, as you say, if you aren't playing one of those top three decks you have to try to brew something to match them, and that is difficult.

My Control deck was steamrolled so hard by Delerium.

After our first games last night StuBi and I were already saying that we might stop playing Standard for a while if the format was going to stagnate.

It turned out that my deck ended up doing OK, but I attribute that to being matched against the top decks in only two matches, and a bit of luck.

February 2, 2017 8:12 a.m.

Argeaux says... #11

Do you know how to make Mulligans few and far between?

Put at least ten cards in your deck that cost 2CMC or less, that build toward your Win Cons.

I've been doing that since BFZ.

January 29, 2017 7:41 a.m.

Argeaux says... #12

If you have time could you give Speedway Champions a playtest?

I've adjusted it a fair bit and want to see if that has made it stronger.

January 27, 2017 7:38 a.m.

Delta-117 says... #13

Aether Hub is the June Fnm promo! Finally one to really in fact kind of look forward too, I have 5 Aether Hubs currently and this should allow me to easily finish my second playset.

January 25, 2017 1:13 p.m.

Argeaux says... #14

Thanks for putting up all those Pro decks.

January 24, 2017 10:20 p.m.

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Said on Modern Wolves...

#1

2x Arlinn Kord  Flip in the 29th Place deck at GP Brisbane!

February 19, 2017 5:34 p.m.

n4pesto,
That sounds like a fun deck, for sure!

February 19, 2017 12:29 a.m.

Cool, thanks yeaGO!

February 18, 2017 2:04 p.m.

yeaGO,
Maybe I'm blind, but I cannot find the link. For example, where is it on Craig Wescoe's Dogs in Boats?

February 18, 2017 12:48 p.m.

Said on BW Odric, Dwarf ......

#5

Wyrmweird,
Here are a few thoughts. Please take them with healthy skepticism though, as I VERY rarely play BW!

First, I think your mana curve looks really awkward. That many 3-drops means the deck is going to be really slow, and that's kind of a recipe for getting crushed in the current super-fast meta. I think you either need to add a TON more control (so you can survive long enough to cast and then swing with a couple Dwarves, plus Ordic), or a TON more one- and two-drops (do you can have a bunch of dudes on the field and then make them super-powered when Odric finally gets there).

I know you love the Dwarves, and the Control route is probably the best way to keep them all, but that's going to be very expensive, as you'd probably want to add 3x Fatal Push and 4x Grasp of Darkness just for starters.

So maybe look at adding some inexpensive one-and two-drops with useful keywords? I'd also recommend and empasis on Deathtouch, as it seems to be especially powerful in a world of HUGE BG Creatures. And with this kind of scheme I'd seriously aim for at least 24 Creatures, and maybe as high as 28.

Some cards to consider ...

Good luck (and good skill) on the build!

February 18, 2017 12:08 p.m.

Wyrmweird,
Odric is a SUPER-cool card, but tbh, I think he may be the bridge too far. People have been trying to break him since he was first spoiled, and there have been exactly ZERO competitive decks (at any price) with Odric in them. And pairing him with Dwarves slows the deck a ton (because there's really a glut of 3-drops) ... idk ...

I'll give your other deck a look though!

February 18, 2017 11:35 a.m.

hyperlocke,
And yeah, that only works if you do an Update. If you just archive the comments (off the Edit page), they're just gone.

I mean, you can still get to them at deckslug/discussion/, but there's no longer an easy way for people to see the old comments.

February 18, 2017 11:28 a.m.

Wyrmweird,
I recommend the Budget Standard Decks page at MTGgoldfish to lots of folks, and you may want to check it out as well. It looks like you already have a bunch of the pieces for Mono-white Angels so that would probably be the easiest transition. I'm not sure you could get there for $5, but it might get you headed in the right direction, anyways.

I'd also strongly recommend checking out these gameplay videos from an old version of the deck ... I think SaffronOlice does a really good job of explaining what he's doing as he plays, and I found his videos a GREAT way to level up my play, early on.

As an aside, I TOTALLY understand the frustration of having a deck you REALLY want to work and it's just not working, with budget pressures on top of that. I went through that with Werewolves during Shadows Over Innistrad Standard. I so much wanted to make it work, but between me being new to Standard and the tribe being pretty much terrible, the situation was pretty hopeless. So the one thing I'd recommend there is if you end up stepping away, PLEASE don't ragequit entirely. Instead, just step away for a while, save some money up, keep an eye out for interesting budget decks from The Professor and SaffronOlive, and then rock the world in a couple months!

Good luck, mate!

February 18, 2017 11:08 a.m.

Said on UG Infect...

#9

Scharferstahl,
Saw your post on r/infect and wanted to follow up here as well. It's a little dated, but I still really like the sideboard guide on Andrew Jessup's primer.

Good luck (and good skill!) at the GP!!!!

February 17, 2017 10:46 p.m.

n4pesto,
That's an interesting idea, but I've never found a need to move Stitcher's Graft around. Plus, this is really a Mono-White deck ... the Red is just a splash to get cards back from Bomat Courier.

Thanks though!

February 17, 2017 6:30 p.m.

Argeaux,
Apology totally accepted :-)
If you'll accept mine for the unclear write-up in the first place! :-D

February 17, 2017 6:28 p.m.

Said on Argeaux...

#12

Thanks again on Dogs. And for having my back in general. Same back atcha!

//

I know you're like, "Meh" on Modern, plus this is probably kind of braggy. But here's the kind of anecdotal write-up I like doing.

February 17, 2017 6:16 p.m.

Said on clayperce...

#13

Geo67 and Argeaux,
Just a few more thoughts on Craig Wescoe's Dogs in Boats - Original:

  • I really do appreciate your thoughts and recommendations, but I went ahead an changed it around. I could frankly care less about making multimedia (not linked) happy, but I figured the change was worthwhile, just to reduce the chance of someone being distracted from my main point ("The coolness that is Craig's deck") in the future.
  • I've found it interesting that people who assume positive intent in others almost always are cool people with positive intent themselves. I've also found the opposite to be true ... people who cannot even imagine someone posting a deck just to share it with others are almost always dicks with some kind of bizarre back-stabbing intent. Just sayin' ...

Thanks to both of you for being firmly in the first category!

February 17, 2017 2:30 p.m.

Tripike,
Love it. I ran a Walker of the Wastes deck for a while in SOI Standard ... what a fun deck!

A few quick thoughts:

  • Ruins of Oran-Rief maybe? I hate that it enters tapped, but it may be good value as a one- or two-of.
  • Titan's Presence performed well enough for me that I ended up running them in the mainboard.
  • I found the really deck struggled with Flyers, and I ended up having to make room for 4x Spidersilk Net, split between the main and sideboard. That was before we had Vehicles though, so that may be a better choice now. But either way, some Flyerhate may worth thinking about.
  • I'm not sure if Planeswalkers (esp Saheeli Rai) are an issue in your meta, but if you find yourself needing more tools to deal with them, maybe some Walking Ballista?
  • If you've got the room, I LOVE Bane of Bala Ged as a one-of in the sideboard for grindy games.

Hope this helps, and sorry for the spam if you've already looked at these!

Draw well!

February 17, 2017 2:03 p.m.

Said on Argeaux...

#15

OK, I see what you mean. I just don't really have time to do "anecdote-style" write-ups on casual matches. Or rather, I prefer to spend that time playing another match than on writing one up. :-)

I really like doing those kind of write-ups though for actual tournament play. As we've discussed though, this season you'll probably only see them on Serious Infection. Spoiler alert: The deck and I ROCKED our first-ever Modern tournament yesterday. We went 4-1 (incl a bye) to place #2 of ~30 people. Woot!

February 17, 2017 1:06 p.m.

Argeaux,
I've got the Stitcher's Graft interaction correct in my brain, but my write-up was obviously not very clear. Let me try again:

It's rare to get both Always Watching and Stitcher's Graft out, but it's amazing when it happens. The interaction can be a little tricky, so here are some details:

  • On my turn, I Attack with a Creature equipped with Stitcher's Graft. Graft triggers. The creature does not tap (because the Vigilance effect from Always Watching grants 'Attacking doesn't cause creatures to tap').
  • Opponents turn happens.
  • On my next turn, the trigger from Stitcher's Graft resolves during my Untap Step. If my creature is still untapped, it has no effect. However, if my Creature is tapped (e.g., because I used it to Crew a Vehicle on my opponent's turn, or my opponents tapped it with a Topplegeist of his or her own, or whatever), it will not untap until my next Untap Step.

Does that make more sense?

February 17, 2017 12:07 p.m.

Geo67 and Argeaux,
I really appreciate your words above and elsewhere. They mean a lot. Thanks much!

February 17, 2017 10:44 a.m.

multimedia,
I think you drastically mis-interpreted my actions, but I appreciate your perspective and comments.

I think Craig's deck is brilliant, and my entire point on featuring it was to spread the word to more people (as surprisingly few people seem to view content on TCGplayer). I left his title on the deck because it is a great title, and that way more people would see it. And I took his name off because I did make a change to the sideboard, so it's no longer his namesake deck.

As an aside, the change to the sideboard helps the deck a ton ... I'm sure 3x Authority of the Consuls was a great call for the Saheeli-heavy Pro Tour, but adding some Stasis Snare made a big change to the deck's win percentage in a Real World with Gideon and other big beaters. And the reason the card is there is because Shwang suggested it, so your idea that "You shouldn't expect any good suggestions of improvements to this deck" is frankly ignorant.

But back on topic: I actually did the whole write-up and title and everything wondering what Craig would think if he ever saw it. And I think he'd be good with it ... happy that he'd gotten credit for his work, and also happy that LOTS more people got to see his deck.

All that said, I understand that you're not happy with it, and that probably means others are not as well. And that's a shame, because y'all have become totally distracted from the my main point: The coolness that is Craig's deck. Accordingly, I will update the deck description and title later today.

Thanks. Really.

February 17, 2017 10:30 a.m.

Said on tenz1n...

#19

tenz1n,
I noticed you put Dogs in Boats (AER) in a folder, and I'm glad you like the deck!

I just wanted to make sure you saw this note in the deck description: Please don't hesitate to +1 Upvote the deck if you like it. Especially if you like it enough to put it in a folder! :-)

Thanks!

February 16, 2017 6:22 p.m.

Said on Geo67...

#20

I saw your post on the original Dogs in Boats deck and wanted to follow-up. Sorry for swapping the original with my new deck, and kind of leaving your post stranded!

February 16, 2017 12:36 p.m.

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