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At the beginning of your upkeep, destroy all artifacts and enchantments. They can't be regenerated.
5 months ago
I'm digging the invincible and destroy all mashed together. Creates strong board control and allows you to swing uncontested.
Fist, I've noticed you're running 46 lands, which is quite a few. I think you could cut down to 38 very easily, especially if you cut a few of the larger CMC spells in favor of cheaper alternatives.
So what would I spend those 8 land slots on? Tutors and ramp.
Serenity could be a hot include too for more control. Porphyry Nodes works in a similar vein for creatures and probably combos better with your deck. Planar Collapse is another cheap wiper that can clear the board for you.
Knight of the Holy Nimbus works surprisingly well here too.
I don't think you actually want All Is Dust for this deck! Your commander flipped is a white permanent, and sacrifice goes through indestructible! One of the lower cost mass destruction ( Porphyry Nodes / Planar Collapse ) could easily fit this slot if you didn't use it to replace some plains. Fiend Hunter is also an excellent choice, as it lets you reuse ETB effects by wiping the board, or gives you spot removal on an opponents problem creature.
Not a fan of Omen Machine here either. Pretty expensive for a stax type piece, would much rather see Aven Mindcensor for flash blowouts + beats or more wipes or Spirit of the Labyrinth to keep draw-hate in your list.
Emeria Shepherd Adarkar Valkyrie and Palisade Giant could all be lower CMC creatures to smooth over your early game. Soltari Visionary could give some extra control elements, while Samurai of the Pale Curtain could help against graveyard strategies. Dust Elemental lets you reset your ETB creatures or can be flashed in at EOT before yours to prepare for a board wipe. Even Serene Master could be good for early game to help you get more to mid game!
11 months ago
Activated abilities of enchantments can still be activated. Can it be prevented?
Our permanents can still be exiled. Can it be prevented?
Can be made so that their costs require mana with Gloom.
Can destroy the opponent's artifacts and enchantments every turn (ours are indestructible) with Serenity.
May block players from casting/playing creatures/artifacts/enchantments/lands altogether by having Ward of Bones and putting some dummy creature tokens (with Phelddagrif, Dark Salvation or Varchild's War-Riders) on the opponent's battlefield, then making them enchantments (Enchanted Evening) + artifacts (Mycosynth Lattice) + land (??? may interfere with blood moon. Still doable by sacrificing all lands but one and giving that one to the opponent with Donate).
1 year ago
Serenity would be a disaster for me. I would lose all my stuff, and waiting for my upkeep would basically allow Jhoira to go off during her turn. I was actually cobsidering Rule of Law, and also Nevermore. Both would hose a large number of decks, not just Jhoira, but I am pretty sure the salt would be thick. Still thinking, but I basically need something to hose Jhoira in the first few turns or we all lose.
1 year ago
Serenity is the best artifact/enchantment removal around - as long as you stay away from using them. Akroma's Vengeance is costly, but it works, and Rout can change the board immensely (in your favor) because it can be cast as an instant. Additionally, Rule of Law or Eidolon of Rhetoric can be extremely punishing against decks that try to combo off early game, or at least get a lot of things out.
1 year ago
I haven't looked over the entire list but here are a few suggestions at first glance:
1) Ramp Spells --- Let's be real, Gishath, Sun's Avatar is a game-winner, so you want to get it out ASAP. You're going to want to ramp up to 8 mana before your opponents can get too many blockers on the board. Thunderherd Migration and Farseek are already in there, and both are definitely solid, but I'd honestly put in way more than two ramp spells. Consider Rampant Growth, Exploration, Heartbeat of Spring, et cetera. You want to be getting more than 1 land onto the field per turn if you can, and you want those lands to be producing more than 1 mana whenever possible. For this reason I have honestly no idea why you aren't running Wayward Swordtooth and Commune with Dinosaurs. Both of those cards would be incredible in this deck.
2) Mana Rocks --- With the number of ramp spells available in your colors you really don't have much use for artifacts that produce mana. While I agree that Chromatic Lantern is good for mana fixing, you don't really need it when you can very easily get all three colors online extremely quickly using cards like Farseek. I would immediately ditch Pillar of Origins, Fellwar Stone, and Worn Powerstone, but I would strongly recommend getting rid of all mana artifacts in the deck in favor of ramp spells. Remember, you just need to get to 8 mana for Ghalta. You'd be surprised how quickly you can do that when you're playing green.
3) Mana Dorks --- Drover of the Mighty is an auto-include for obvious reasons, so I'm glad to see it in this list. I also like Kinjalli's Caller more than most people do, so I'm glad to see that as well. I also know that you are trying to limit the number of non-dinosaur creatures in your deck. For that reason, I'd recommend just a few more non-dino dorks such as Otepec Huntmaster, Birds of Paradise, and Voyaging Satyr. Remember, if any of your lands is producing more than 1 mana through land enchantments such as Utopia Sprawl, you can have Voyaging Satyr untap it for incredible amounts of value.
4) Utility Spells --- One of the best pieces of advice anyone has ever given me in terms of deck building is to avoid any and all cards that don't directly contribute toward getting your win condition online. For this reason, I would ditch the majority of your utility spells. This includes instants, sorceries, enchantments, and even planeswalkers.
Cards that trade 1:1 with an opponent such as Disenchant work in 1v1 matches, but this is EDH. I'd take out anything that destroys a target enchantment or artifact in favor of mass artifact removal such as Serenity or Fracturing Gust. Just remember not to wipe your own creatures off the board with creature wipes. I would recommend throwing in a very small number of targeted removal like Path to Exile and Naturalize just to take out a key threat on an opponent's board, but your main creature removal should come from combat or the "fight" mechanic.
Speaking of, take out Hunt the Weak entirely. Prey Upon does the same thing (kills a creature and triggers enrage), but it costs 3 less. Pounce Might even make sense since it has instant speed, making it effectively a removal spell that triggers enrage. Just be careful not to kill your own creatures - damage dealt in "fight" doesn't wear off before combat.
5) Land --- With your lands you really want to be both ramping and fixing. For this reason, the guildgate cycle is way too slow, as is Stone Quarry. EDH gives you access to some pretty ridiculous lands, so I'd spend a lot of time looking at those. Personally I'd strongly recommend the Ravnica bouncelands if you have a way to play multiple lands in a turn, or otherwise shocklands. I wouldn't recommend fetchlands (unpopular opinion) because this deck doesn't need to worry too much about mana fixing (you get it all from your creatures and, ideally, the rest of your land base), but for that exact reason I might go with a painland or two. After all, at a certain point you may not need the colored mana, so it's usually worth it just to have a couple. You're running tricolor, though, so ultimately you'll want a lot of basics. Aim for about 35 lands total, since you should have ways to search for lands so you don't need the full 40.
6) Anthems --- I wouldn't worry too much about Anthem effects or Lords. You really want to be flooding the board with creatures, not buffing the ones you already have (though that's always nice as an aside). Cards like Strength of the Pack are usually just too slow and don't do very much for you.
That's all I could pick out at a glance. Hope this helps!
1 year ago
Glad to see this thread again!
Urborg Justice is a good one, I really enjoy it in Kuon.
Serenity can be a really oppressive card in the right deck.
Porphyry Nodes is another one that can completely disrupt a table.
1 year ago
Okay, brace yourself. I'm going all out.
- P.S. Sorry that my inner spike ignores price...
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- You don't need two 8 drops. She doesn't give global support like Avacyn, and Avy is your commander so she's already better. I say choose one (and we all know which 8 drop you should keep).
- I get the value of Shepherd, but it comes down to the same thing. You should only have one 7 drop. Pick one.
- Both are good. Just cut one. This will help curve out better and play more aggressively.
- So this card is okay, but not as good as it looks at a glance. The player has to draw 2+ cards at once, or in a similar fashion. Collector's replacement effect does not apply if a player cantrips after their draw step, or something of that sort.
- Life is not that important. Really. I get that he blocks, but Jubilation or Tithes can block too and they are overall better cards for a Staxy build.
- Great, great card. Super Stax. Only issue, is you need to have your artifacts. Tabernacleing your artifacts hurts you significantly worse than your opponents.
Maybe Mother of Runes
I know you love her, but really she doesn't contribute to the Stax theme. She "helps" curve, but I think we can do better here.
- This hurts you equally or more so than opponents. Yeah, this shuts down aggro token decks, but you need to swing with your fat fatties. The goal of this deck is to lock everybody in the game down, but giving yourself a slight advantage to get big creatures out to swing with.
- This is essentially a worse version of Aurification.
- Really this doesn't do that much. It could, but it's not worth it. A mana rock would be a better slot in, really.
This absolutely needs to go. This literally destroys everything that you set up from turn 1-10. It is such a nonbo that there is no real justifiable reason or "synergy" to include this card.
I get that this can grab any land, but it really is a waste of a turn. A lock hurts your opponents and gives you an advantage that is similar to ramp, but also makes you more and more likely to win the game. Serra's Sanctum doesn't win you the game. Make sense?
- Pseudo Stax because of the exile effect, but really I still don't think you need this. I cannot stress enough how you will always have the better and stronger creatures, so 6 mana to equip this for such a small ability isn't worth it, in my opinion.
- Cool, you get to draw some cards, but you help everyone else too!? No! This is the opposite of what you want to do. Deprive, deprive, deprive. You will have the upper hand enough that this meager card draw is irrelevant.
- This or Weathered Wayfarer needs to go. Reason being is that they counteract each other. You can keep both if you think you can play around it, but really I don't think it would hurt to let go of one or the other. Your call.
- Im sorry man, but this card is not very good. I can show you so many lands that would be better. Scrap this one.
- Really, games won't go on so long that you will have to recast Avy enough times to worry about this. Plains would just be better.
- I know this has a decent ceiling, but there will be games where you have 10 lands out and still don't get this trigger.
- This is a good card, but really I don't think it will be all that relevant. Your call, but a basic would be just as good, really.
- Really I don't know what this does for the deck, besides coming in tapped. Not trying to harp, but I don't see you using this ability hardly at all.
- This card is sooooo baaaad. It's very overrated, and it's too slow. You want to just outrun your opponents long enough until they trip. This makes you trip and your opponents catch up.
This is up to you. It can whiff hard, even more than Sky Ruin. Especially with the land destruction in the deck. I say pass on this, and I'll find you a better but similar replacement.
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With all the artifacts you should be running, this card is great. Even without a ton of artifacts, this just tells your opponents "no".
- You might want to get rid of Ghostway, but this is great. It shuts down flicker/blink decks, shuts down Worldgorger Dragon combo, and so much more. All of my goblin cheaters, everything. This is a good card.
- Winter Orb on a creature. This should go in (all of this land hate will make sense in a little bit).
- Basically Pithing Needle on a critter. Both of those are almost as good as Nevermore, but cheaper. So they balance out.
Maybe Sanctum Prelate
- Almost Trinisphere. Again, both of those are good.
- Needs. More. Thalia.
Good graveyard hate. It does have the chance to nonbo with Emeria and maybe some others, but again, you control when to cast things. Also, you can play RIP years before Emeria. So think about what can get you more use: A card that sticks around for 8 turns, or one that sticks around for a few?
- Good combo card with RIP. I know you think it's confusing, but all it says when paired with RIP is, ", : Mill all cards in target opponent's library."
- Great taxers. You should have enough artifact ramp to negate this effect.
- This might be better than, equal, or mutually good compared to Quicksilver Amulet. Lower CMC, easier to get benefit from, but takes time to set up. This is up to you, but it is not mana intensive, meaning you can lock up the board and play stuff for free each turn. Thats huge.
- You know tons of cards to name with this card. Lands, booger creatures, etc. Plus, if you see your opponent has their commander with an activated ability, name that!
Maybe Grafdigger's Cage
- This is more graveyard hate, but really might just be a worse card than RIP. Both might be good, but really this is just a suggestion for you to see at the very least.
- Might as well deter your opponents from attacking you as much as possible. This is not a great card, but paired with all of your locks and Prison effects it nearly stops your cold.
- Hurts your opponents for playing without any repercussions on your behalf. This wrecks against mono-colored or when paired with Winter Orb
- Both this and Hokori, Dust Drinker. You will see why lands dont matter as much in this deck.
- Maybe also the moxen (Mox Diamond, Chrome Mox, Mox Opal) because theyre free ramp
- These all are abusable mana rocks. They generate tons of mana, bypass all of the taxers you set up, and can let you get Avy, or really any of your high drops, out super early.
- I think this is a must. This lets you reuse any mana rock that generates more than 1 mana.
This is a little gimmicky, but it can turn off Winter Orb and the likes, plus it lets you reuse mana rocks again. If it had a little lower CMC then this would be an auto-include.
Remember when I said that I would suggest a better Temple of the False God? Well, here ya go. Right out of the gate it works. Yes, sac it if you play a land, but the tempo this skips you ahead is justifiable without a doubt.
- Dude, come on. Run this. Hell, maybe even run Wasteland.
This is not all that great, but after an Armageddon you get an extra body, and every bit of a lead you get makes it harder and harder for your opponents to win.
2 years ago
@Dankey: The Solemnity / Phyrexian Unlife combo you mentioned is indeed funny but it's fragile and takes 2 card slots instead of the 1 that Solitary Confinement offers for much less of a risk. With the combo you mentioned it only takes one removal spell and you're sitting with a negative life total so I'll have to pass.
@Kessler15/Dankey: Serenity hurts more than helps with the amount of mana rocks I run. Generally I'd want the whole board wiped if I was to do one, which is where the Enchanted Evening combo comes in. Sure it blows up everything and I can avoid it with Vanishing but that's using 2 cards for what could be accomplished with one; furthermore, Enchanted Evening is not tutorable with Zur and is useless by itself. Thanks for the suggestion though.
@cynica: I've actually been considering it for awhile. It's massive card advantage as an instant which can (and will) one shot someone with Empyrial Armor. Can't agree with taking Daybreak Coronet out though as it works well with Stasis and gets me life back which matters even more if I'm gonna be running Ad Nauseam. I'll switch it out for Winds of Rath which I rarely if ever use and it's the same CMC. Thanks for the suggestion!
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