Braids, Cabal Minion

Legendary Creature — Human Minion

At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player sacrifices an artifact, creature, or land.

Combos

• Bitterblossom + Braids, Cabal Minion

Legality

Format	Legality
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Premodern	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (49)

Icbrgr on Modern Horizons Light

8 months ago

I am curious if players would be interested in a Modern format which included cards that Modern horizons sets have retroactively made old standard cards legal into the format but excluded cards that were created out of the aether.

• Solitary Confinement

• Counterspell

• Braids, Cabal Minion

• Flame Rift

• Quirion Ranger

These would be example of cards that would be legal because they were previously existing cards that went through standard at some point.

• The One Ring

• Thought Monitor

• Solitude

• Ragavan, Nimble Pilferer

• Ignoble Hierarch

• Persist

would be examples of cards that would not be allowed because they never went through standard.

The follow-up question would be does Magic the Gathering have a preexisting cardpool that is not on the reserved list to create such a format and keep it healthy/diverse? And could this be done while keeping Modern and Legacy/vintage separate identities? In theory in such a format we would certainly lose Force of Negation but could possibly get access to Force of Will if it were to be printed or made legal.

Origins of My Intentions

I have always loved the idea of Modern because it was a non rotating format that I could find a home for both old and new cards... but at the same time I wasnt an active player/investor in the very beginnings of magic... I always felt gatekept from paper legacy play because I would never be able to in a fiscally responible way get access to all the tools available to me due to the reserved list... and I respect that for what it is.... for a longtime I felt gatekept from Entering Modern simply because of the price of Fetchlands and thank god they have been meaningfully reprinted so now are far more accesible.

But With Modern horizons it just feels sad knowing that Modern is ultimatly a soft rotating format based on the whims of whatever comes in the next Modern Horizons set....or some set like the Lord of the rings set whichj just comes into modern for some reason.

This is kinda what is pushing me towards Pioneer.... but I just cant help but feel frustrated.... Dont get me wrong I honestly don't hate Modern Horizons in its entirety I was really happy about getting access to old magic cards and that felt fun and cool to me...like a taste of getting into legacy or something.... but something about legacy I NEVER had interest in was random spinoff product entering the format.... Commander cards...Universes beyond cards... Planchase cards ect ect.

Currently the top 3 deck in Modern

• The One Ring Tron

• Crashing footfalls Cascade

• Rakdos Scam

DrukenReaps on Alternate Ban List

1 year ago

I've never really been a fan of the ban list used for commander. I don't think it addresses potential problem cards the right way. There's always going to be a new problem card printed. I also think there's cards stuck on there that use to be scary and just aren't now. Like when Worldfire came off and no one really cared lol. So I wanted to just go through the mental exercise of designing a new ban list. First thing is I wanted to bring back the old "banned as commander" and therefore have 2 ban lists. The argument I heard most against this is that it's complicated but we play the most complex deck design game in MTG. I think people can handle 2 ban lists. For the banned from the 99 part of the list I was thinking I'd focus on fast tutors and fast mana. Like I said there will always be more problem cards. Many that aren't banned are arguably stronger than banned ones currently. For example Godo, Bandit Warlord + Helm of the Host is arguably easier and more consistent than Cromat + Coalition Victory.

So here are the 2 lists, they do not contain everything. Just wanted to start the idea and see people's thoughts.

Banned as Commander- Braids, Cabal Minion Emrakul, the Aeons Torn Griselbrand Iona, Shield of Emeria Leovold, Emissary of Trest

Banned from the 99- Mox Emerald Mox Jet Mox Pearl Mox Ruby Mox Sapphire Black Lotus Channel Sol Ring Mana Crypt Mana Vault Worldly Tutor Enlightened Tutor Personal Tutor Vampiric Tutor Demonic Tutor Mystical Tutor

I would also simply declare that Companion doesn't work in Commander. So you can play your Lutri, the Spellchaser if you so desire. I think this mechanic as a whole was poorly thought out and poorly tested, hence the changes and bans across multiple formats.

TheOfficialCreator on What Commander Do You Think …

1 year ago

TheSnuggleLord It doesn't violate any site rules at all I don't believe, and as the OP of the thread I am fully comfortable with these conversations continuing; this is exactly the kind of discussion I love to engage in on the site and throughout my exploits as a custom card creator.

I've always been a fan of the notion that we should ban Sol Ring in Commander, simply because there is no good reason why it should remain legal in the format. We've simply bought too much into the notion that things like Sol Ring, Force of Will, and Fierce Guardianship are okay in a format that was originally built to be more casual, especially when cards like Braids, Cabal Minion are banned.

I actually touch on this in one of my in-progress primers ever so briefly, and I think it's important to recognize these effects where they occur.

Commander decks are getting faster and faster, and without some much-needed restrictions on the number of new products, it's just going to get worse.

legendofa on What Commander Do You Think …

1 year ago

Grubbernaut From a very casual Commander player to a cEDH player, do you have an opinion on Braids, Cabal Minion or Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary as part of the banlist? I personally feel like those two in particular are not overpowered as commanders at this point, nor do they lead to especially prohibitive or overwhelming lines of play. I don't think dominance is the only, or even main, criterion for an EDH ban, but am curious about your opinion as a more competitive player.

plakjekaas on Questioning the Iona Banning

2 years ago

Wuzibo Buy some Chaos Warps

I'm getting a lot of "I get locked out playing my favorite deck so I wanna lock out players too"-vibes. The one difference between Iona and all other problematic cards you named, is that Iona can be your commander, making sure you still have access to it after Oblivion Stone etc. That's where it differs from Leyline of the Void which, yes, can be in play from turn 0, but there's going to be a lot of games where it won't, and it probably won't return after the O-stone.

Iona's also a creature, making sure cards like Ephemerate will customize the color chosen to whatever you need whenever you need it, protecting it from removal in the process.

If you want to lock people out of casting spells, there's still plenty of ways to do it, but it's by combining cards together, not 1 card that does the entire thing for you. With Palinchron you need a mana doubler, with Heartless Hidetsugu you need a damage doubler and a way not to die, with Lavinia, Azorius Renegade you need Knowledge Pool, with Decree of Silence you need Solemnity.

With Iona, Shield of Emeria you need nothing. With Paradox Engine you basically need anything, it's not restrictive enough in its synergies to not be overpowered, while leading to 20 minute turns where one player gets to play all the magic while the others get to watch.

If you're scared of Mindbreak Trap, just play Rule of Law. If your deck doesn't function because of a single card in play, it's badly built. You could still go Sol Ring into Thran Dynamo for Wurmcoil Engine t3 and kill the leyline player. That also stops it from being a problem. Those are all cards that would be amazing in a Daretti deck and doesn't need to break the color pie to get you out of a sticky situation. If you can only do Junk Diver Scrap Trawler loops, that's way more of a restriction on your deck and way easier to devise a backup strategy for than "playing a monocolor".

The rationale for banning Iona is that it leads to a play experience the rules committee wants to discourage, which is locking people out of playing the game. That's paraphrased from the ban article. Not locking out from winning, which is what you're talking about. Also, discourage, not prevent. You can still do it, but a flagship commander for that strategy that, no matter how you build her, it's gonna cause that bad time, that gets banned. Braids, Cabal Minion is banned for the same reason.

Your rationale of "they can now ban cards because they lead to unfun gameplay? They should ban every card that ever blocked my fun then" sounds very entitled, and hard to agree with. It makes you sound as much of a salty bad player as you blame the RC to be.

gemmillion on Mono Black Braids Unban

2 years ago

Do you think that Braids, Cabal Minion still deserves to be banned? I think that while it isn't the most fun to face, in my experience there are much worse legal commanders now days.

carpecanum on Tergrid, God of Fright EDH

2 years ago

Braids, Cabal Minion , Nettlevine Blight : I was just looking for things to make people sac LANDS. After the first round on Braids, Cabal Minion you would be able to sac other players stuff if you wanted. No pain. The other land sac cards were NOT budget.

Not sure what Underworld Dreams does here? I would replace it with Unnerve , Reign of the Pit , Arterial Flow or Stronghold Rats

DemonDragonJ on Modern Horizons 2 Spoilers

2 years ago

I am not happy that both Vindicate and Braids, Cabal Minion are being introduced to modern; at this point, how is modern different from legacy? Will WotC leave any cards for legacy and vintage only? However, I am glad that WotC at least is keeping the 2007 promo artwork for Vindicate unique, since I feel that that artwork is too awesome to reuse.

Also, I think that it is awesome that WotC printed a card named "damn," and I cannot wait to hear the reactions of players to that card; the jokes and memes will practically write themselves.