[PRIMER] Trynn & Silvar, Dangerous Bonds

Commander / EDH yurixquest

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April 15, 2020

Removed Nahiri, the Harbinger and Mardu Ascendancy to add Phyrexian Arena and Riders of Gavony

I was missing a mass protection that can be useful against tribals like Gavony and a more consistent way of buying than a planeswalker

Grind says... #1

given that helm of the host is part of your winning combos, and you also run some other good equipments, you could run Steelshaper's Gift or Open the Armory.
also Restoration Specialist seems like a good inclusion to recur some combo pieces in case anyone blows them up

April 12, 2020 9:37 p.m.

yurixquest says... #2

Thanks for the recommendation Grind, I already made the change. It really makes a lot of sense

April 13, 2020 11:49 a.m.

griffstick says... #3

Outlaws' Merriment seems perfect. Also Krav, the Unredeemed and Regna, the Redeemer seem like it fits. Vigilante Justice might be fun. Maybe Commander's Authority. Elspeth, Sun's Nemesis should deserve a look. Another cool card would be Gallows at Willow Hill. If you think you can make enough human tokens take a good look at Devout Chaplain. Keep the tokens coming with Hanweir Garrison. Homura, Human Ascendant  Flip needs a sac outlet. Good thing your Cmdr has a sac outlet. Requiem Angel and Xathrid Necromancer both benefit from creatures dying. And since we are talking about creatures dying why not add Dictate of Erebos and Grave Pact and Butcher of Malakir.

April 14, 2020 1:07 a.m. Edited.

Joe_Ken_ says... #4

Running Angel of Glory's Rise gives you access to a really good reanimation for humans as well as an infinite combo with Fiend Hunter and a sac outlet like your commander.

Combo pretty much works like this

  1. Have Angel of Glory’s rise on the battlefield

  2. Have Fiend Hunter enter the battlefield and exile the angel underneath it.

  3. Sac Fiend Hunter to the big cat and then Angel of Glory’s rise comes back in starting a loop with step two.

This gives you infinite death triggers as well as making your cat infinitely large meaning if you have a creature like Zulaport Cutthroat or have Bastion of Remembrance out then you can kill your opponents like that. This will also work with Impact Tremors for infinite damage.

April 14, 2020 1:16 a.m.

triproberts12 says... #5

My favorite budget combo lately has been Leonin Arbiter+Animate Dead. I think Aristocrats is by far the best way to build Trynn+Silvar, and it's a style that makes it very easy to add or remove combos that interact with Blood Artist or Impact Tremors effects to adjust the power without affecting the overall functioning of the deck. If you want to see some good budget combos, have a look at the WB Uncommon tribal deck I've been brewing. I also put in Vizier of Remedies+Persist combos. Most of the cost of the deck is in tutors, but without the Uncommon tribal restriction and access to red cards, you shouldn't need them. Impact Tremors, Goblin Sharpshooter, Judith, the Scourge Diva, Hissing Iguanar, and Murderous Redcap are all red options. Deathbringer Thoctar, Rage Thrower, Warstorm Surge, and Flayer of the Hatebound are also options, although I'm a stickler for CMC.

April 14, 2020 10:59 a.m.

griffstick says... #6

A few more suggestions. Looking at the +1/+1 counters, Mer-Ek Nightblade, Abzan Battle Priest, Abzan Falconer and Ainok Bond-Kin all see

April 14, 2020 11:21 a.m.

triproberts12 says... #7

Oh, sorry, I meant Leonin Relic-Warder+Animate Dead. Meshes nicely with the Animate Dead/Worldgorger Dragon combo, too. Although copies of Worldgorger and Necromancy are each about $10, I think that building a redundant piece of each half of an A/B combo is worth the $20. You'll probably want to run 5-10 Blood Artist or Impact Tremor effects, at which point you can function as a solid aristocrats deck with a combo finish that doesn't rely on tutors beyond Final Parting.

April 14, 2020 11:29 a.m.

griffstick says... #8

You can probably cut Mogis, God of Slaughter for something in the maybeboard

April 14, 2020 11:42 a.m.

yurixquest says... #9

griffstick. Thank you very much for the tips. I will consider the cards you mentioned, but why should I take out mogis? Consistent damage / removal over time

triproberts12 I really liked your list and your suggestions, but I believe that putting so many combos on the deck it will look more like a Mardu combo than an aggro. Should I remove a combo to put the sacrifice combos in place? If so, then it would be the combat combos, and that would cause me to mess with all the equipment cards in the deck due to the small equipment engine.

April 14, 2020 12:21 p.m.

triproberts12 says... #10

That would be my suggestion. I just don't find combat-based combos to be particularly effective outside of GR in Commander. You pretty much need overwhelming stats+haste to make it work. Aristocrats is well-suited to your stated goals, imo. A well-built Aristocrats deck has inevitability, just by virtue of getting to the point where there's enough on-board damage that Wraths are no longer an option, but Blood Artist, Corpse Knight, Impact Tremors, etc. also each enable combos. You could easily have 3-6 flex slots in the deck that you pre-board before the game to adjust the power level of the deck. That's part of the reason why I brewed the Uncommon tribal list above. It could hang with 4-5's if I took out the combos, 6-7's if I took out the tutors, or 8's and possibly 9's if it's fully optimized within the deck-building constraints.

April 14, 2020 12:30 p.m.

yurixquest says... #11

triproberts12 I just replaced the combos of combat phases, alternating them with aristocratic combos, added Sun Titan, Vizier of Remedies, Murderous Redcap, Leonin Relic-Warder and Animate Dead. I miss ways to sacrifice creatures other than with the commander, but I didn't want to leave the human tribe with Viscera Seer or Carrion Feeder

April 14, 2020 1:09 p.m.

triproberts12 says... #12

In that case, I think you should find room for Judith, the Scourge Diva, Pious Evangel  Flip, and Syr Konrad, the Grim

April 14, 2020 1:34 p.m.

yurixquest says... #13

I thought better about Murderous + Vizier, I thought it better to remove them because they do not interact with the rest of the deck. Animate Dead has a good interaction, in the combo only Leonin is a Dead Draw. I decided to include Judith and Nahiri (back) giving me Aggro power + dripping damage and Draw / Removal and potential tutor

April 14, 2020 1:46 p.m.

griffstick says... #14

If you want to lean into the aristocratic style then Teysa Karlov would be a solid lieutenant to the deck.

April 14, 2020 2:08 p.m.

yurixquest says... #15

I am also thinking of using Death Cultist and Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker. I could have synergy with my low power humans and still make a combo

April 14, 2020 4:42 p.m.

MindAblaze says... #16

Martyr's Bond has some synergy, especially since you also run Mardu Ascendancy and Smothering Tithe.

April 14, 2020 5:37 p.m.

triproberts12 says... #17

Oh, also, I think shoring up the manabase should be a priority. I happen to be fairly familiar with building 3-color wedges on a budget, though, since I've had a dollar Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest deck for a while. With 11 basic Plains, Clifftop Retreat and Isolated Chapel are both $3 dual lands that you can really take advantage of with a basic-heavy manabase. Castle Ardenvale isn't exactly a free-roll, but if you keep your Plains count high, it makes humans and is likely to be an untapped colored source. Temple of the False God is an awful card for a 3-color deck playing so few lands. You need to get to 4 lands to play it and it makes colorless mana, meaning you're effectively playing a 34-land deck. I'd get rid of that and two spells, then add in Clifftop Retreat and Isolated Chapel at the very least. There's other budget lands like Foreboding Ruins, Tainted Field and Tainted Peak, but your color distribution doesn't seem built for them.

April 14, 2020 6:10 p.m.

yurixquest says... #18

Ok triproberts12, i will change all lands useless for some lands usefull. I remove too Diabolic Revelation (what sought combo pieces like godo, celebrant and helm) for Martyr's Bond, same value.

April 14, 2020 8:38 p.m.

yurixquest says... #19

Correcting some changes:

I replaced Martyr's Bond with Adarkar Valkyrie. Although the aforementioned spell is very strong, it is more reactive, and I need a more proactive deck, the valkyrie is a very strong recursion piece and can combo with Thornbite Staff and Death Cultist. In turn, I removed Priest of Forgotten Gods to add Death Cultist.

There was the addition of the Chromatic Lantern for mana correction

April 14, 2020 10:19 p.m.