Isshin, Two Heavens as One

Commander / EDH magicbike

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I mean, it seems fairly solid as is. Obviously there is some improvements that could be made, especially to the land base.

I might think of going more midrange over aggro

Some helpful control counters

Deflecting Swat

Defense Grid

Teferi's Protection

Grand Abolisher

Depending on budget I can offer some suggestions.

March 22, 2022 6:33 p.m.

magicbike says... #2

Can ask you what’s rong with my mana

March 23, 2022 2:11 p.m.

magicbike says... #3

Loving the grand card gonna mee that one in my mind when I have money again hahaha

March 23, 2022 2:13 p.m.

The mana base is a bit slow all the tap lands. You will consistently find yourself behind a turn due to the lands coming into play tapped. it would be best to replace the guildgates and cards like Akoum Refuge with lands like:

Sacred Foundry, Godless Shrine, Blood Crypt, Graven Cairns, Fetid Heath, Rugged Prairie, and Savai Triome. some fetches can help with consistency too: Marsh Flats, Arid Mesa, Bloodstained Mire

March 23, 2022 5:02 p.m.

magicbike says... #5

Thanks I think I m gonna lose some tapped for some normal mana need to earn some money first hahah I think that keeps me up to speed with te rest ?

March 24, 2022 4:25 a.m.

DreadKhan says... #6

If you want a cheaper $ option than Grand Abolisher (or would like another card that can do similar work), Wandering Archaic  Flip is a substantial tax on all opponent's instants/sorceries, but that tax matters most with countermagic, making everyone else's counters either very good (if you want the same thing countered for example), or very expensive (people usually consider Cancel unplayable for costing 3 mana). Archaic isn't as good at protecting your own stuff, but it's a way bigger effect generally.

You might also like Generous Gift over Disenchant, and I prefer Vanishing Verse over Fracture, but Verse is more of a competitive card maybe. Slayers' Stronghold might be nice, vigilance and haste are useful for WR.

For (potentially) untapped duals, there are a few cycles worth a look. Pathways are good (but no longer cheap unfortunately, they might go down after they rotate out of Standard though), Blightstep Pathway  Flip, Brightclimb Pathway  Flip, and Needleverge Pathway  Flip are all solid cards to keep an eye out for. Luxury Suite, Spectator Seating, and Vault of Champions are duals that usually come in untapped when it matters, and are considered among the best non-fetchable dual lands. You could try the new cycle from Innistrad, Haunted Ridge, Shattered Sanctum, and Sundown Pass are good as long as you're not running a low land count, 35 should probably work. While Sulfurous Springs is pricey, Caves of Koilos is cheap, Battlefield Forge isn't bad either, they're always untapped and by mid game you usually just use them for colourless and they have no downside. Concealed Courtyard, Inspiring Vantage, and Blackcleave Cliffs are very good, some are really expensive once again. Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is a great way to make all your lands Swamps, handy for stuff like Cabal Coffers as well as just to fix your mana. Shadowblood Ridge is an untapped source of RB, which isn't a bad, but there is only the 1 in your wedge of colours, this land might be handy if you run a cycle where the RB land is really pricey.

Hope some of this is helpful, the deck seems pretty decent.

March 25, 2022 9:40 a.m.

DreadKhan says... #7

Just remembered, I think Luxury Suite is scheduled for reprinting in the Summer, so if you like that cycle, hold off on that one for now probably.

March 25, 2022 9:48 a.m.

KBK7101 says... #8

Reflecting Pool is getting reprinted as well!

March 25, 2022 10:10 a.m. Edited.

DreadKhan makes valid points.

I prefer to run shocks, Core set, and filter lands (like Godless Shrine, Isolated Chapel and Fetid Heath respectively) as well as the flip lands (Brightclimb Pathway  Flip for example). I wish I could justify getting cards like Plateau

There are other ways of making a good land base as DreadKhan mentions. The recent Innistrad set Dual lands are pretty good and hopefully the commander lands will drop in price once Baldur's Gate hits. Shock lands aren't too pricey these days, save for a couple of them. They have been reprinted several times. The Strixhaven lands are also pretty good.

I have recently updated my Isshin list if it helps give you some ideas: Obi-Wan Can Blow Me. I went more midrange with it and it runs amazingly.

March 25, 2022 1:43 p.m.

magicbike says... #10

I bought some lands for now Fetid Heath Graven Cairns Rugged Prairie

I m gonna buy more but for now I think I m save with mana again I m gonna slowly upgrade my mana I think I m saver now

March 25, 2022 3:16 p.m.

magicbike says... #11

can i ask how the flip lands work kan i always flip them or only when i play it from my hand

March 25, 2022 4:40 p.m.

magicbike says... #12

i bought some lands Needleverge Pathway Pillarverge Pathway Concealed Courtyard card:Brightclimb Pathway // Grimclimb Pathway Blightstep Pathway Searstep Pathway Inspiring Vantage Rugged Prairie Fetid Heath Graven Cairns

i hope this get my deck steaming dor a while you guys can help me witch one i need to get out of my deck for these ones

March 25, 2022 4:53 p.m.

magicbike says... #13

1xInspiring Vantage 1XConcealed Courtyard 1xBrightclimb Pathway  Flip 1XBlightstep Pathway  Flip 1xNeedleverge Pathway  Flip 1xRugged Prairie 1xFetid Heath 1xGraven Cairns

haha hey i did it markt te cards lets gooo learning

i bought these can you guys help me with looking for witch one to take out first

March 25, 2022 4:59 p.m.

1x Thriving Bluff

1x Thriving Heath

1x Wind-Scarred Crag

1x Scoured Barrens

1x Akoum Refuge

1x Bloodfell Caves

1x Boros Guildgate

1x Mountain

March 25, 2022 5:25 p.m.

magicbike says... #15

i changed some Creatures thats gonna work better Grand Abolisherinstead ofAkki Ronin Rakshasa Debaser instead of Imperial Subduer

Robber of the Rich instead of Tectonic Giant Hellrider instead of Ancestral Katana Anger i hope these are better

March 26, 2022 4:41 p.m.

magicbike says... #16

Upriser Renegadei whant to do Anger

March 26, 2022 4:43 p.m.

magicbike says... #17

so if i look ad my deck with the upgrades i did to day i think its better than it was i played with it to day it was a strong deck but it was missing some so i looked some decks up that i knew that ware strong i bougth some of those cards so its a really a attacking playstyle for the triggers plz let me know wat you guys think

March 26, 2022 6:06 p.m.

I might drop some of the Samurai like these:

1x Nezumi Bladeblesser

1x Norika Yamazaki, the Poet

1x Peerless Samurai

1x Heiko Yamazaki, the General

For:

Hero of Bladehold (she is rediculous with Isshin, 4 tokens out with +2/0)

Boros Charm: protection

Fireflux Squad: pretty good with the tokens

Aerial Surveyor: Can help with ramp

Some other adds:

Sword of the Animist: ramp

Rakdos Signet, Orzhov Signet: Ramp

Phyrexian Arena: try to get this while it is a bit low for now thanks to a recent reprint

Some suggested drops:

1x The Shattered States Era: There are better cards

1x Touch the Spirit Realm: pretty good, but there are better

1x Wanderer's Intervention: both this and the below have better cards you can use: Infernal Grasp, Swords to Plowshares, Path to Exile, Despark, Anguished Unmaking, Bedevil, Baleful Mastery, Hero's Downfall, Dreadbore, Damn, Winds of Abandon

1x You Are Already Dead

1x Debt to the Kami

1x Deflecting Palm

1x Disenchant

1x Sword of Hours: there are better cards

1 Ecologist's Terrarium: there are better cards

It is looking good!!

March 26, 2022 10:16 p.m.

magicbike says... #19

March 27, 2022 7:30 a.m.

DreadKhan says... #20

The deck seems to be progressing well!

If you've got roughly half your creatures as humans, you might think about Winota, Joiner of Forces, she looks pretty deep to find stuff, and cheating out an indestructible human is good, you'll get 2 shots for each non-human, so you'd need about half and half for her to work. For the record, at 15 humans, a Winota trigger will find 1 or more humans 87% of the time. Your odds of drawing into Winota and a non-human at 15 non-humans is over 9% at 11 cards seen, and your odds of seeing a Winota in 11 cards is ~11%. The biggest downside of Winota is that you won't get attack triggers that turn off of creatures she cheats in, but they also for sure aren't going to die that attack, since they're indestructible, so you can swing with them next turn and trigger them.

March 27, 2022 4:28 p.m.

magicbike says... #21

love the the tip hahah but i bought almost 120 euros on upgrades ahahah in 2 days XD so i think im gonna kick some ass

March 27, 2022 4:47 p.m.

magicbike says... #22

i need to buy 6 tokens still

March 27, 2022 4:48 p.m.

magicbike says... #23

so instead of dropping a strong creat Karazikar, the Eye Tyrant i dropt Peerless Samurai

March 27, 2022 5 p.m.

magicbike says... #24

i forgot i bought this one 2 Iroas, God of Victory so i think this one instead of Karazikar, the Eye Tyrant

March 27, 2022 5:06 p.m.

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