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Creature — Dragon
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, create an X/X red Dragon Illusion creature token with flying and haste, where X is the amount of mana spent to cast that spell. Exile that token at the beginning of the next end step.
2 months ago
My main suggestion would be to look into some higher-mana value spells, the only one you're running is Memory Deluge which means you're good in the early game but you don't get as much value out of the Manaform Hellkites as you potentially could. My suggestions would be Invoke Despair, Sorin the Mirthless and The Cruelty of Gix.
I like the interaction between the Manaform Hellkite and the Fable of the Mirror-Breaker Flip you've set up, but maybe this would make it more effective? Especially given all the treasures you'll be making between Fable of the Mirror-Breaker Flip and Sticky Fingers, you'll want something to do with them.
3 months ago
4 months ago
Jeah I ment Atarka, World Render. Alle these dragon names are tough. Im currently trying to find cuts for him, Ancient Brass Dragon and Ancient Bronze Dragon. I’m looking to cut Manaform Hellkite for sure but the other 2 are hard as moet cards are pretty unique.
Mutavault is interesting but I want my lands to tap for colours personally as playing 5c can be hard
Temple of the Dragon Queen has been pretty good for me this far. But I can see it getting changed for the red green 2 sided land as those are the colours I choose most of the times. But it has been good to me so for now it stays
4 months ago
I have played around with Sneak Attack it’s a very cool card and can help but I ended up removing it for Monster Manual. I’m trying to let my dragons stick around so this is more on theme with the list. It might make it back in sometime but I’m not sure when.
Im currently not running cards like Dragonborn Looter and Scaled Nurturer as I’d rather be able to play big dragons. And they have anti synergy with cards like The Prismatic Bridge Flip, Monster Manual and most of my etb draw triggers. In a different build I would play these cards but not in this one, they are definitely good cards tho. Im also not running any mana dorks for this reason.
I have also toyed around with Lozhan, Dragons' Legacy but her ability is sadly a cast trigger and I’m trying to cheat cards in play without casting them. Instead I ended up playing Purphoros, God of the Forge as he triggers on etb’s which has great synergy with all my token makers especially Ancient Gold Dragon as rolling a nat 20 can kill the entire table. It does less damage in some cases but it’s more consistent and it helps that its a god that can be found with The World Tree
For now I’m still playing Manaform Hellkite as the tokens she creates have haste and if my commander is out they generate extra card draw. Or she creates extra etb effects to Ping people to death with my ping bois. She is probably the next one to go tho.
As for the dragon count, I’m trying to keep it at a minimum of 30 dragons which is where I’m at right now. Which might sound a bit low but there are plenty of dragons that create dragon tokens. Right now I have Ancient Gold Dragon which creates on average 11 dragons per combat or over 20 if she has double strike. Dragon Broodmother, Lathliss, Dragon Queen, Manaform Hellkite, Miirym, Sentinel Wyrm and Utvara Hellkite. And ofcourse my reanimation stuff. I’m currently testing a few more dragons that might bumb me up to 31/32 but they have to be better than cards that are already in here which can be quite hard. But Dragonlord Atarka might be coming back soon as he has great synergy with the D20 dragons
The biggest problem is the 100 card limit as I also need to play some more protection spells. Heroic Intervention and Teferi's Protection as my playgroup is playing more board wipes. Counterspells can also be the way to go but I rather not play those as a personal preference
4 months ago
Hello, I think Sneak Attack would be a great addition to this deck.
I am not so sure about Manaform Hellkite because this is a creature based deck. And I think a slightly higher Dragon-co would help with some of the Dragon Synergy pieces. Have you considered Scaled Nurturer and Dragonborn Looter? Lozhan, Dragons' Legacy is great as well.
6 months ago
7 months ago
What if you ditched Lightning Shrieker and Verix Bladewing and replaced them with Manaform Hellkite ? Spit Flame would provide its own trigger to put it back in your hand. Dragon Tempest generates its own trigger as well.
8 months ago
I appreciate the creativity, and there are certainly a few suggestions I could present. But first, I think it is most important to address your choice of Commander.
Niv-Mizzet Reborn is absolutely not the right Commander for this deck. And I don't mean to say that all 5-color Dragon tribal decks should have The Ur-Dragon at the helm (though, that would be a great choice, just sayin'). My reason is simple: you don't have enough color pair cards on the list for 'Ol Nivvy to be useful. Like, at all. Even as part of the 99.
Now, you could fix that by adding spells such as Terminate, Abrupt Decay, Diabolic Vision, Faeburrow Elder, Render Silent, Anguished Unmaking, etc etc etc... Not to mention that you only have 8 color pair dragons in the deck, and 5 of them are Gruul (meaning, first of all, that the most amount of dragons you could snatch with Niv would be 3 and the chances of doing so are astronomical, and secondly that if you revealed 3 or more dragons by some dumb luck they're more likely to all be Gruul than any other combination, meaning you'd only get to keep one).
The thing is, you'd have to add a helluva lot of cards to make Niv palatable for this deck, and that would mean basically overhauling the entire deck. A much easier task would be to just simply change the commander.
As for general suggestions, I think you can use some Haste enablers. Dragon Tempest, Temur Ascendancy, Dragonlord Kolaghan and Sarkhan Vol come readily to mind, but there are a ton of other choices, such as Rhythm of the Wild, Fires of Yavimaya and Samut, Tyrant Smasher.
As for your question about better low-mana dragons, understand that there really aren't many good ones below MV4. I mean, they're dragons. What do you expect? However, here's a few of the better ones that aren't an arm and a leg:
Again, if you're going for a genuinely low curve dragon deck, you're going to be disappointed. It just really can't be done.
And finally, Lathliss, Dragon Queen is quite upset that she wasn't included.
That's all I got.