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Orochi Hatchery enters the battlefield with X charge counters on it.
, : Put a 1/1 green Snake creature token into play for each charge counter on Orochi Hatchery.
Orochi Hatchery Discussion
2 weeks ago
The proliferate will happen before Orochi Hatchery is on the board.
Flux Channeler triggers on casting noncreature spells. So it triggers when you cast Hatchery, and the trigger is put on the stack above the Hatchery spell. It will resolve before the casting of Hatchery does.
If it triggered off of noncreature permanents entering the battlefield, then it would work the way you wanted.
2 weeks ago
Lets say i have Flux Channeler already on board and i cast Orochi Hatchery , does my Orochi Hatchery get an additional counter from the proliferate of my Flux Channeler, or does the proliferate happen before Orochi hatchery is on the board?
2 weeks ago
As a disclaimer, some of these are not perfect 1:1 replacements. Essentially, any card on the remove side can be swapped for any card in the replace side. Remove-Replace Blind Obedience - Kismet : Slowing down your opponent's lands is huge and will make you "faster" in comparison
Huatli's Raptor - Mikaeus, the Lunarch : HR is low cost, which implies it will come out early, but it really works best midgame. Mikaes scales to any point in the game and can proliferate faster with all your "untap creatures" effects.
Inexorable Tide - Unbreakable Formation : IT is flashy, but slow to build up. UF is cheap, can save your creatures from a wipe, and if cast during your main phase, basically gives you a free combat round with no consequences.
Caustic Caterpillar - Black Sun's Zenith : You have tons of artifact/enchantment removal and without graveyard recursion, CC is just too small. BSZ can be cast for X=1 and then can be proliferated. Plus it recurs itself.
A few cards I found that would work great in this deck, but had no easy replacements: Gleam of Authority , Together Forever , Orochi Hatchery , Citadel Siege , and (I know you used to have it here) Vorel of the Hull Clade
1 month ago
Some more noncreature spells that get you creatures you can use with the Staff: Abstruse Interference , Efficient Construction , Geist Snatch , Grip of Phyresis , Metallurgic Summonings , Orochi Hatchery , Rise from the Tides , Skywise Teachings , and Thopter Spy Network .
Depending on the decks in your pod, certain suggestions may be better than others.
1 month ago
It all depends on who you're using as the commander. If you're using Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons you'll really want to focus it down. Are you looking for the -1/-1 counter part of it or the 1/1 snake tokens? Hapatra can go off very quickly with snakes.
-Credit to akumawerewolf for his great Hapatra combo list.
1 month ago
I love the deck name. I got a few suggestions:
Your land-base can use some work. I highly suggest Command Tower , City of Brass , Mana Confluence and Prismatic Vista . The prices on these lands varies, but they're all good (especially Command Tower )...
Xerox cards, sort of like your Opt , will allow you to run slightly fewer lands -- they'll dig you to what you need and past what you don't. I highly recommend running Ponder and Preordain in any blue deck; Brainstorm is great, too, though it requires slightly more shuffle effects than just Terramorphic Expanse and Evolving Wilds .
I think Swords to Plowshares is a lot better than Path to Exile . Ramping an opponent in a format filled with high-power cards is actively dangerous, and I suggest Path to Exile only in highly aggro decks that need to remove blockers to kill an opponent. Giving an opponent a little life is much less significant. Similarly, I think Grasp of Fate is likely a lot better than Pacifism .
Narset, Parter of Veils is a bomb in EDH, especially if you can pair her with a well-timed Windfall . Similarly, many decks have at least a decent number of search effects, meaning that Ashiok, Dream Render is also a powerhouse.
Like the aforementioned Windfall , there're a bunch of card-advantage spells to consider. Painful Truths is a favorite of mine, and Fact or Fiction , Dig Through Time , Treasure Cruise , Phyrexian Arena etc. are all awesome. Fathom Mage can also draw you cards.
One major bonus to playing green in EDH is that it grants you access to the best dorks; in these colors, you can play pretty much all the best ones except Orcish Lumberjack . Some are more expensive than others, but since dorks (and their low cost) are the best ramp in the game, you should consider running any number of these: Avacyn's Pilgrim , Llanowar Elves , Fyndhorn Elves , Elvish Mystic , Elves of Deep Shadow , Deathrite Shaman , Noble Hierarch , Birds of Paradise and Bloom Tender will all be powerhouses in this deck.
There're some charge-counter artifacts to consider, as you can proliferate the counters. Everflowing Chalice and Astral Cornucopia come immediately to mind, and Coalition Relic and Transmogrifying Wand are both powerful as well.
Depending on your meta, there're some enchantments you should consider: Mystic Remora is often an Ancestral Recall in more inexperienced metas; Compost can be a powerhouse, as black is the second most common color after blue; heavy blue metas are friendly to Carpet of Flowers ; and similarly, since you're not running any Island s outside the basics yourself, Choke can be good.
I think you forgot Sol Ring ...
If you want, you can run a little bit o' hate. Grafdigger's Cage is probably the best Stax piece in the current meta. Smokestack is a fun piece of work you can proliferate, if necessary; running it in conjunction with Orochi Hatchery or just Bitterblossom can give you all the advantage you need.
1 month ago
i would drop these:
Arbor Colossus Broodbirth Viper Caller of the Pack Chameleon Colossus Great Oak Guardian Joraga Treespeaker Thelonite Hermit Viridian Shaman Orochi Hatchery Verdant Confluence Arachnogenesis Mystic Snake
put these in there places: Collector Ouphe - i have one you can have it Fertilid Awakening Zone Fungal Sprouting Zameck Guildmage Rishkar's Expertise Walking Ballista Master Biomancer Farhaven Elf Mindless Automaton Kalonian Hydra Cultivate
3 months ago
Ok, here we go...
Hexdrinker is cool, but...eventually, you can't even target it. And it doesn't have trample. Possible cut. Why Knowledge Pool ? It just seems weird. I'd cut it. And Gelatinous Genesis . And I'm on the fence about Orochi Hatchery . Not sure you need it.
You should run a Rogue's Passage so you can push one of your big fatties through. Some X creatures you don't have in here: Anthroplasm , Kraklin, and Verdeloth the Ancient . Verdy would be very worth running, I think.
That's the best I can do for now.
Here are two Kruphix decks to mull over, as well:
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