Darksteel Citadel

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Historic Brawl Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper Duel Commander Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Darksteel Citadel

Artifact Land

Indestructible (Effects that say "destroy" don't destroy this permanent.)

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DungeonCrawler64 on Lurker of the Automation

3 months ago

I test-played a bit and I think I got the lands to work well!Hallowed Fountainfoil seems to be a good land fix and much to my despair I think I have to remove The Ozolith to add one land in its place because the lands just were not consistent enough. (especially trying to get for a Counterspell, Sink into Stupor  Flip, or if I wanted to cast two cost cards. (this is part of the reason why I chose Metallic Rebuke over Counterspell before I updated my deck because getting double blue seemed tougher. but I think seventeen lands plus the Mox Opal and Springleaf Drum are good and the manapool seems much more efficient. I decided to keep the Darksteel Citadel because for artifacts entering and on the board for affinity I seemed to notice a considerable difference if they were not artifact lands. the Steel Overseer seems to be pretty strong especially if I have a bunch of Ornithopter or Memnite then I can buff them and make them more of a threat. I also had the crazy idea of adding another copy of Shadowspear because of the +1+1, trample, and especially the lifelink if the game is longer and I needed it. however, I am not quite sold on the idea. I would love to have one copy of The Ozolith, but I am unsure what to remove. I am considering removing one of the three Kapa Cannoneers Or one of the two Emry, Lurker of the Loch. but I am just not confident about removing those cards that seem essential for this deck. ); would love to hear from you and thanks so much for helping kamarupa! without you, I got no clue what I would have done!

kamarupa on Lurker of the Automation

3 months ago

Well, since it seems you want to splash white for Dispatch, I'd recommend playtesting the heck out it and keep adjusting the lands until it seems like it can't get anymore consistent. Razortide Bridge def seems like a great fit, but I also think any land that enters tapped is usually a disturbingly big drain on a deck's speed. Again, I recommend playtesting it a ton with the Bridge and then try swapping that out for the path land Hengegate Pathway  Flip. I'd actually recommend trying it without Darksteel Citadel, too. From what I saw looking at a few other Cheerios decks, none of them tried taking advantage of the extra artifact trigger with artifacts lands and instead all went with the popular expensive lands. I'm not sure how competitive you want this deck to be, but even without dropping the big bucks, we can still get some decent lands these days. Bottom line, if you can't cast spells because you don't have the right color mana, the extra triggers from artifact lands essentially mean nothing.

When it comes to Blood Moon, ug. Man f those players, lol. OK, jk. Mostly. That's def where your Counterspell and a lot of your sideboard comes in huge. I firmly believe that a 1v1 race to 2 wins is the only way to play 'fair' magic, so if you do lose a game to Blood Moon, you have some answers that can shut that down and then it just comes down to luck of the draw.

The Ozolith is a great spell, and I love casting it when I get the chance but it does have 2 issues that compound each other. For starters, it's rare anyone in my little playgroup lets me keep it - they always destroy it first change they get. And then, it being Legendary can turn extra copies into dead cards. So I usually only include one and think of it more as a diversion target for opponents than something I need on the field to win. All that said, I'm a sucker for +1/+1 counters; so I wouldn't say you need Steel Overseer to make The Ozolith worth it, but the Overseer isn't hurting the deck by being here either.

capwner on Molten Opals

4 months ago

Hello Xica! I very much appreciate you taking the time to look at the deck and leave your thoughts. Let me see if I can address some of your points and explain why I made the choices I did.

  1. Field of Ruin and Demolition Field I agree with you these are great denial cards that can fit in many decks, and are especially good when you can combine with Leonin Arbiter and additional cleansing effects like White Orchid Phantom or Geomancer's Gambit. This is generally how I've seen LD built in modern the past couple years and, frankly, I've found this build to underperform. There are a couple reasons that Fields do not fit in this shell, the main one is they are slow colorfixing (2 cost) vs. Ghost Quarter which, combined with any darksteel land, provides immediate colorfixing. This is really important for the deck as a big part of our plan is sticking the turn 2 tempo play of Boom or Cleansing Wildfire (on myself). Opening Darksteel Citadel + Demo Field is just not what we want to see. These are also SOFT land destruction which use up an entire turn of play in the early game, and don't even tempo the opponent. That plus a tight manabase with limited slots for basics is why I don't run these.

  2. Experimental Synthesizer This is a solid engine card and you often see it paired with Gleeful Demolition and similar effects. I've built with this card and Ichor Wellspring in previous versions of the deck. The main reason I avoid these here is simple, Thoughtcast is better card advantage and I don't need artifact fodder because the darksteel lands reliably turn on Gleeful already. The fact that you can only play the exiled card on the current turn when we run so many high-cost bombs we may need ALL of our mana to cast, is sub-optimal.

  3. Rise and Shine Alright, so I never said I didn't like this card. I've actually been really close to trying to fit it in here, as a 1-of probably. I just think Kappa Cannoneer is better in the slot. As a 2 mana play, it doesn't fit well in my curve where I want to cast boom on turn 2, drop an opal, then do mycospawn/charmaw/saga turns 3-4-5. The reason this deck works is because it chains that early tempo into this creature-based hard land destruction or saga beatdown almost immediately, keeping the opponent on the back foot for the entire game. 4/4 indest body for 2 is very good, but it just doesn't work with my gameplan as well as the other cards I have chosen because it has no tempo value. Our first priority is to disable the opponent, after which we have much more time to worry about the beatdown plan.

I hope that gives you bit better understanding of the deck! Like I said in the description, I've spent quite a bit of time and effort to develop this and I'm pretty confident I'm running about the best cards I can. Mostly I just want to try and fit a 4th Ghost Quarter, Mishra's Bauble, or Thoughtcast, if I were to change anything at this point. I think I'm probably doing something right here because my testing record is currently an absolutely insane 33 match wins to 8 losses.

Thanks again for your feedback, I'd be happy to check out your list and share my thoughts a bit later when I have some more time!

sergiodelrio on Eldra-Zero

4 months ago

Another thought: Mox Opal requires sort of an "infrastructure" for the Metalcraft condition to be online. One popular option to do that with as little opportunity cost as possible would be Darksteel Citadel or Treasure Vault, which is also an artifact.

Other ideas could be Roadside Reliquary or The Mycosynth Gardens (or other suggestions we previously talked about), depending on where you want to go with the deck. What vector would you like to improve anyway? Where is it struggling? How is playtesting going so far?

wallisface on Should I Put Additional Artifact …

7 months ago

DemonDragonJ

  • Treasure Vault is probably better than Darksteel Citadel, but it’s close. However, in your deck Darksteel Citadel is probably better than Vault of Whispers, as you have nothing that needs black mana (if you’re ever not casting Vault Skirge for , you’re doing something wrong).

  • regardless of the point above, I think your deck is lacking enough blue and white sources to be reliable, and i’d be dropping a bunch of the black & colourless lands in favour of more lands that can provide white/blue.

  • Chromatic Lantern is an absolutely tragically terrible card. Maybe you’re thinking of it being useful is a hangover from Commander?? In any non-edh format the card is just really, really bad - 3 mana for this effect is not playable. At least upgrade it to Talisman of Progress if you’re wanting a mana-rock that sticks around. Although I also think that Chromatic Star/Chromatic Sphere are also much better options.

DemonDragonJ on Should I Put Additional Artifact …

7 months ago

wallisface, Caerwyn, jethstriker, yes, that makes sense, so I shall keep my existing lands, but I actually did have Darksteel Citadel in this deck, before I replaced it with Treasure Vault, or do you believe that the citadel is superior? Also, I feel that both Chromatic Sphere and Chromatic Star are radically inferior to Chromatic Lantern, so I cannot in good conscience replace the lantern with those cards.

jethstriker on Should I Put Additional Artifact …

7 months ago

If you really like the Master of Etherium route, I suggest swap the bridge with Darksteel Citadel. You already have Glimmervoid and Chromatic Lantern to filter the color of mana you need. Although I would also suggest to swap the lantern with Chromatic Star and/or Chromatic Sphere.

wallisface on Should I Put Additional Artifact …

7 months ago

As an example, this list costs well-under half of the money of your current list, but will significantly outperform it by prettymuch every metric:

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