Creature — Elemental
You may play lands from your graveyard.
If a land entering the battlefield causes a triggered ability you control to trigger, that ability triggers an additional time.
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|Zendikar Rising (ZNR)||Mythic Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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Ancient Greenwarden Discussion
21 hours ago
My version is very much inspired of this list, and I've played it quite a lot. Although all those additions look super fun, the only one I'm considering right now is the MDFC version of Regrowth (Bala Ged Recovery + Bala Ged Sanctuary ). This deck has few creatures and about two landfall interactions (Lotus Cobra and Tireless Tracker), so I don't think Ashaya, Soul of the Wild or the landharmonicon effect in Ancient Greenwarden are a big plus for this deck, although a third crucible effect could be relevant (expensive though).
I'm mitigated about Scute Swarm, since I often find myself with a low land count on the battlefield. I usually tutor for lands that produce more than one mana in the early turns, and if I get back a bunch of lands from the graveyard with Splendid Reclamation, then I'm probably winning anyway. But it has high board-flooding potential, so it could be worth testing (-:
Anyway, that's my 2 cents on this
1 day ago
-1 Swamp, +1 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth. Urborg has some nice utility, something of a mana fixing effect, and outside the presence of a Blood Moon, I don't see a ton of drawback in slotting it in, besides one fewer basic to fetch with lands that only get basics. I can live with that, since...
-1 Seer's Sundial, +1 Dread Presence. With now two routes to make every land drop a swamp, this guy makes a ton of sense. The sundial is gonna cost at least 6 mana before it starts to pay off and adds pretty much nothing when it first enters play. I see Dread Presence offering much more drawing power at a greatly reduced cost, along with other utility from its other effect, and I can grab him with creature searching/recurring tools.
-1 In Garruk's Wake, +1 Doubling Season. Let me say this: I love just about everything about IGW. I love the brutality of its effect. I love the name, the art, the flavor, and the MtG lore from whence it came. I don't particularly love the heavy cost, but considering the effect it can have on a game - especially a multiplayer game - it's not really unfair. However, at the time I'm making this change, there are a total of 18 cards that would benefit from Doubling Season, and it should have a profound effect on every game it enters. I foresee IGW spending a lot of time in my hand, either waiting for enough mana to pay for it, or waiting for a time when it feels worth it to spend that mana. Doubling Season is a fun card and I love the potential for exponential growth (one land drop can turn into 4 dragons with Nesting Dragon, plus the havoc it will create once I can get my hands on an Ancient Greenwarden).
2 days ago
Thank you for your detailed response, it is much apprecaited as always. There are only 2 themes, land and power, Eldrazi used to be a theme. The 2x Kozilek's are to refill my hand once I drop all my lands, the ulamog is there for removal. My main goal in this deck is to get azusa out on T3, T2 if I get some ramp. Then use one of the many land tutors to search for either kozilek to refill my hand.
The sprinkle of going wide I recently tried to add as it fueled cradle but you are right, going wide doesn't work well. Its very hit or miss, 60% miss. I think by taking out going wide, and perhaps maybe Ulamog (I still need 2x Kozilek's for card draw, badly). Yes, I don't run a lot of interaction myself, I use the excuse of being green and hoping my opponents will kill each other. Not the best strategy, but a fun one.
Zendikar Resurgent - It's been helpful, but I can cut it. Its one of those cards I pay 7 mana for and unless I use it the same turn, they blow it up or else things get out of hand too quickly.
Shamanic Revelation - Super hit or miss. When it works, it works, when it doesn't, it draws me one card. I should note its super fun with rude awakening, but yeah, it's my primary cut for sure.
MAYBE Regal Force - Only ever good with Avenger, Baloths and Titania as it does not synergize with field of the dead of even rude awakening sadly. I want your thoughts on this as it is one of my targets for tooth and nail. Tooth and nail usually goes Greenwarden + Ulvenwald --> Cradle/Deserted temple, bringing back T&N. Then next turn cast T&N to bring Avenger + Regal. Outside of that, it draws me maybe 1-3 cards otherwise. Idk if it's worth it or what to replace it with.
MAYBE Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger - I like him because I use him with Sanctum to find either Kozilek. But its 10 mana to exile 2 cards and eat a path to exile. Costs a lot?
Mind's Eye - I'm unsure about cutting this. With all of the wheels and card draw in my meta, this has saved me from many tight spots. If I were to cut it, I might replace it with a Memory Jar, or perhaps just add in memory jar in place of one of the above cards.
Boundless Realms - WAY too good to ignore. Landfall triggers with baloths, field of the dead triggers, thinning the deck and ramping. This card has been an allstar and even with my relatively low basic count, it still puts in work.
Lightning Greaves - So simple.....idk why I haven't thought of it? Let me give that some serious consideration. I'm pretty sure you're right. Plus its nice to have an additional haste outlet, whether its to swing with only 1 creature after G-waving my entire deck onto the field and they remove akromas, or to give whatever land came onto the battlefield haste from rude awakening.
Crashing Drawbridge - I would add concordant crossroads before I add this. I don't need too much haste, it's not so much aggro as is value.
Green Sun's Zenith - EVERYONE recommends this card to me, I feel like I should add it just for that reason. Finding only green creatures is what bothers me, but I can definitely see it's potential. I'm going to seriously consider this as I think you are right, similar to lightning greaves.
Dryad Arbor - The potential T1 ramp with GSZ does not outweight the fragility of the land as a creature and it's lack of haste. I've often found decks that use GSZ to get Arbor T1 often just boardwiped quickly in my experience, it has happened time and time again in my meta.
Finale of Devastation - The concept of more creature tutors is intriguing for sure. It also acts as a late game haste outlet/finisher which is nice to have. I like the flexibility of it. Again, needs serious consideration. Thank you for bringing this (and others) to my attention.
Ancient Greenwarden - With life from the loam, CoW, Ramunap, I wasn't sure if I needed more redundancy. However, I think you're right. It's second ability is nice with baloths, field, avenger so I'm excited to see how that works. I'm most probably adding this.
Nissa, Vastwood Seer - Already in the deck, a pet card of mine. Not that impactful, but lowkey and helpful enough to give you value without being a target :)
For the distinction of going tall vs wide, I agree, taller is better. I've considered Return of the Wildspeaker, still not sure. Let me think about it. Prowling serpopod is nice, but I try not to put in too many slots just to deal with one of the many colors which I may or may not deal with. I have boseju and cavern for anti blue, I feel it is usually enough. Azusa fills the spot of wayward, hence me not running exploration/burgeoning despite my relatively high land count. I already put most of my lands on the field, so I don't need more land drops, I just need more card draw, desperately. Kogla is cool, nice synergy with Azusa too. Seems like more of a beater that doesn't have synergy with the deck unlike Multani/Ulvenwald, so it doesn't seem right at the moment. Then again, I should add more interaction in the deck so I will see...
Your comments have been very thought provoking, I need time to process it.
2 days ago
This is a very interesting deck I think. It’s different in that almost half your deck is lands. Also, you have a lot of different ideas going on here: land matters, power matters, eldrazi aggro, with a sprinkle of going wide. That probably creates a challenging deckbuilding balancing act. You might be spreading yourself too thin by having all those things in one deck. Especially because you have so few spots for supporting themes because your high land count. My main tip is: see if you can reduce the amount of themes for a higher focus and synergy. I've found that taking out one or two of such themes out and use them as the inspiration for a new deck can be very rewarding.
What I also noticed is that your list is quite a “glass cannon” kind of build. If it works, it works well, but I expect it is also relatively susceptible to be blown out by interaction. You also don't run a lot of interaction yourself. That’s not really my thing, as my meta would punish me too hard for trying. This tells me we play in very different environments, so take my suggestions with a grain of salt ;).
There a few cards here I would consider to cut:
- Zendikar Resurgent, Shamanic Revelation: These don’t synergize with your themes very well. You only run about 20 creatures, so resurgent is not going to draw that many cards. And with only 4 token makers, shamanic revelation is not really ideal either.
- Mind's Eye: I don’t think this card is worth running in edh anymore. Especially in green. Very slow and expensive.
- Boundless Realms: You don’t run a lot of landfall pay-offs. Perhaps a card that is a payoff by itself is a better use here.
Cards I would consider adding for better consistency
- Lightning Greaves: protects Azusa early and facilitates your eldrazi win-con later.
- Crashing Drawbridge: Another great haste enabler to facilitate your eldrazi aggro plan
- Dryad Arbor, Green Sun's Zenith and Finale of Devastation: in this deck I imagine you want access to Ramunap Excavator probably every game, so running GZS and FoD are a no-brainer imo. Adding Dryad Arbor is the icing on the cake to also have 2 more rampant growths in your deck for when Cow or Ramunap are already in your hand. I’d probably cut a few of the land tutors to make room for them: Sylvan Scrying and Realms Uncharted. I would also rate creature tutors over Seek the Horizon, because ramunap + any fetch draws you more lands.
- Ancient Greenwarden: another ramunap effect that can be tutored up and has a high power.
- Nissa, Vastwood Seer Flip: I like this card for increasing consistency.
Lastly, I would make a choice between growing tall and going wide. The power matters theme is probably a better match than the going wide one, as your Eldrazi aggro plan is already matching with that (however, landfall supports the going-wide route very well, so you could really go either way). Here are some contenders to consider if you decide to go for power matters:
- Return of the Wildspeaker: alternative to Shamanic revelation if you decide to embrace going tall.
- Prowling Serpopard, Wayward Swordtooth, Kogla, the Titan Ape: utility and hate creatures that support your strategy, while also providing a high power for your power matter cards.
Hope there are some ideas here that match with your vision for the deck.
GL & HF!
3 days ago
4 days ago
Thanks Profet93 :). I like your questions! They makes me reconsider card assessments formed long ago. Let’s dig into our new ones:
- Yavimaya Hollow: a card I like and play in other decks. I also considered it for this deck several times. However, every time I do I feel it just does not belong in this deck. I think the reason why I feel that way is because it’s not the creatures that need protecting most of the time (or that I don’t want to focus on protecting them). Opponents could kill Mina and Denn, Wildborn sure. But they are just an enabler for the deck. Not a key piece, like in decks where I do run Hollow. The deck does not really have many vital pieces like that. On certain moments, yes, hollow will save that one creature you needed for the explosive play, so I do agree it would be a useful include. I just don’t think it is necessary or used very often. A bit like Kessig Wolf Run maybe. To be honest, the threshold of getting one in FOIL also contributes to a feeling of resistance nowadays. However, I can totally see anyone swapping out Spikefield Hazard for Yavimaya Hollow if they feel differently. It might be a good idea to test this one again just to see what happens.
- If I’d cut Retreat to Kazandu now - which I won’t ;) - I’d probably go for another 2-mana ramp piece or put Krosan Tusker back in. I did just put in Rampant Growth in the last update, so I’m already up a ramp piece (5 now) to skip a turn for M&D. Sol Ring is a no go for me because of the total lack of synergy. Life from the Loam was cut in the last update for Ancient Greenwarden and the deck does not need a 4th effect like that I think. Eternal Witness is nice to have, especially with all the green creature tutors, so that is also a valid choice. Has creeped up on my maybe list rank recently because of Valakut Exploration. Depending on your meta, you can also consider something like Vexing Shusher for the spot.
- Ancient Tomb: I have a similar opinion on this land compared to hollow and kessig wolf run. They all provide a little something for the deck, but creating a spot for them is just terrible. Apart from Spikefield Hazard there are no lands I am willing to cut atm. Blast Zone has been a strong answer on a land so far that’s easily found. Khalni Garden has a lot of applications and synergy, Radiant Fountain I like for the same reasons as Retreat to Kazandu. Cryptic Caves and Temple of Abandon get you out of dead situations, which I value more than the benefits of the competition. Most other lands feel like they are kind of set in stone now.
4 days ago
Update 17th of September:
I replaced this for "Spoiler" Rampaging Baloths as this one gives me ETB tokens which I can pump as I need it.
2. Ancient GreenwardenTwo Landfall triggers in addition to playing lands out of your graveyard? 6 mana is huge, though worth the costs.
3. Tunneling Geopede: I honstely underestimated the power of this guy. One damage for each landfall trigger adds up and can close out games out of nowhere.
4. Moraug, Fury of Akoum. A powerhouse when it gets rolling. We are winning games with this, if unanswered.
5. Felidar Retreat: This card surprised me a lot in playtesting. Not only is it better than Zendikar's Roil but it is also more versatile at is gains us an overrun-esque effect.
6. Rude Awakening: I earlier removed this card from my deck, due to it feeling like a win more card, though I realized that I was too greedy and only wanted to use this card for its entwine costs.
After more testing it feels more like a better Mirari's Wake due to its versatility. More mana? No Problem. Trying to finish? No Problem. Trying to finish, but need just a bit more mana? No Problem.
2. Coiling Oracle: Too often a swing and a miss. Not necessarily bad, but was not convinced from this one anymore.
3. Ghostly Flicker: Not sure about this one, as it is additional protection and can benefit mana if blinking Gaea's Cradle.
Will see how it pans out and if cutting it was a mistake. 4. Ramunap Excavator: Exchanged for Ancient Greenwarden. Also not sure about this one, as it ensures early land drops. Though, do not have problems with this early on most of the time.
5. Rampaging Baloths: Cutted for Phylath, World Sculptor as it benefits my deckstyle more.
6. Dig Through Time: Were not able to cast this card for its delve costs most of the time, as lands in the graveyard are often more valuable than in other decks.
5 days ago
VexenX, I love the new conversation sparked by Zendikar Rising! When deck-building or adding new cards, I think it's important to revisit our win-cons. As it stands, I believe your deck has two types of win cons: burn and creature overrun. Ever since the removal of Akroma's Memorial and addition of Fiery Emancipation, I've come around to the fact that Burn is a more competitive win con. Would you disagree?
Next, since Omrath runs little removal, I believe that we should be in the mindset of designing a deck that works towards its strengths more than patching its weaknesses. This way, our goal should be to put pressure on our opponents and win as quickly as possible. You can see where I'm going with all this, as I am suggesting cuts to creature overrun enhancing cards and keeping/adding burn enhancing cards.
A few comments on your new card update post:
1) I 100% agree with Valakut Exploration. Although card draw is neat, you and everyone else on this page may be underestimating just how good the burn value can be! Because the damage is dealt to "each" opponent, we have a mini Purphoros, God of the Forge on our hands. Since Valakut Exploration burn is triggered by landfall, it works especially well with - you guessed it - Burgeoning + Ghost Town! And the more creature overrun enhancing cards like Doubling Season we slot out for cheaper draw-into-hand cards, the more smoothly Burgeoning works in the deck just by itself. And the more cheap draw-into-hand cards we have in the deck, the more likely we are to cast the cards we draw off of Valakut Exploration. Ahh!!! Okay rant done.
2) I feel like slotting out Perilous Forays is crazy talk. Other sac outlets need Omnath, Locus of Rage AND creatures to sac to take effect. Perilous Forays only needs Omnath, Locus of Rage in play - plus an upside of comboing off - plus an upside of working towards the burn win con.
3) I can see slotting out Force of Vigor. It is a flex card after all. Personally, I think 0 mana removal is too broken to cut through.
4) Ancient Greenwarden may be a godlike card, but I'd like to play devil's advocate and remind you that it is both expensive and plays towards a creature overrun win con just like Doubling Season. I respect and even back your choice to add this card, but I think it's just a little clunky and on the for-fun side.
5) Isn't Roiling Regrowth a strictly worse Springbloom Druid? Not that I'm against adding more cheap mana ramp, but I would personally add Springbloom Druid back first. For the record, I do agree with Ranger's Path being on the chopping block. Same goes for Migration Path. On paper they look just fine. In testing, I'd be happy to see one or both go.
6) I'm worried that Nahiri's Lithoforming may de-ramp us in some games resulting in an autoloss. The risk is too high for this card in too many hand states in my opinion.
7) I think Moraug, Fury of Akoum is a great reason to be back IN for the creature overrun win con. However, it benefits greatly from Doubling Season effects and doesn't synergize at all with Where Ancients Tread or sacrificing effects. This once again comes down to priority of win cons. If we're more in burn, which I personally believe us to be, than I would recommend against this.
Next, I'd like your thoughts on a few cards as additions to the deck if you wouldn't mind!
1) Play Tooth and Nail, paying it's entwine cost (9 cmc total - which is nothing for this deck)
3) When they both hit the battlefield, Terror will see Sekki and trigger causing 8 dmg to a target. In this case, point that damage right back at Sekki.
4) Sekki will lose all of it's counters, creating 8x 1/1 faeries and going to the graveyard.
5) Terror sees these 8 faeries coming in, pointing this 8 damage at a player's face.
6) Then sac all 8 faeries to bring Sekki back. (Sekki's last ability is played from the grave)
7) Rinse and repeat for an infinite damage combo.
In my opinion, adding 1 card to the deck, Sekki, Seasons' Guide, isn't a tall ask for an extra infinite combo in the deck. We already have creature tutors, so Tooth and Nail isn't even required. But after the addition of Sekki, Seasons' Guide, adding 1 more card, Tooth and Nail, instantly wins us many games when we draw it for just 9 mana. Not only do I think you could cut Craterhoof Behemoth for this combo but Craterhoof Behemoth works towards a creature overrun win con, so I'd argue it's on the chopping block anyways! You could use Avenger of Zendikar and Purphoros, God of the Forge as backup Tooth and Nail targets for the burn win con. To take this one step further, with the addition of a card that can win us the game if resolved, why not run Gamble? Twice the chance to draw into a quick and easy win con with added upside of 1 cmc and flexibility.
2) Thoughts on Skullclamp? I think it's a disgustingly good card for draw and we already have sac outlets to trigger it.
3) Thoughts on re-adding Sylvan Scrying? Ever since the removal of Tempt with Discovery, I've been missing nonbasic land tutors. Lets compare Sylvan Scrying to Rampant Growth. Rampant Growth gives us 1 mana ramp for 2 mana to use as early as turn 3. Sylvan Scrying at the very least does the same if we search up Ancient Tomb. And I think it has so much more upside if we draw it mid or late game too.
4) Thoughts on Sensei's Divining Top? I think it feels great to draw in opening hand and makes early game even more consistent.
Thanks for your time in answering my posts. I know they can be a little long!