Legendary Creature — Human Warrior
: Target creature's power or toughness becomes 1 until end of turn.
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Vhati il-Dal Discussion
3 weeks ago
I copied and tweaked the build on my account. Ended up swapping Dismember for Hero's Downfall as your -1/-1's will deal with indestructible and give better versatility with large creatures/walkers. Tweaked the creature base, mostly removing Trestle Troll, Scavenging Ooze and Vhati il-Dal and adding Channeler Initiate and Deity of Scars. Dropped Putrefy and Tablet of the Guilds. Swapped Garruk, Apex Predator for the new 7 drop Lily (as she fits better with your -1/-1 theme) and bumped up your fixing/reducing the number of basics. In testing it was MUCH more consistent and most of the time really powerful on curve, Woodlurker Mimic was surprisingly good! Hapatra, Vizier of Poisons with either Channeler Initiate or Deity of Scars was very good (forget having multiples or having even a single Creakwood Liege on he board). I hope you playtest and find what works best for you. Let me know how you make out.
1 month ago
I realize that Screams from Within doesn't produce a -1/-1 counter. The reason I suggested it to you is that it has the ability to make your other spells that create -1/-1 counters work much more efficiently because of it's 'return to the battlefield on enchanted creature dying' ability. In your deck, I think the two effects, that is, the abundance of -1/-1 effects and Screams from Within's persistent, reusable -1/-1 effect, would complement each other really well.
Perhaps you have considered the card in depth, but in the case where you haven't, I've tried to describe some examples below of how the card could help your deck be better, because I want to help you understand what I mean.
You would use Vhati's ability to give an opponent's creature a toughness of one, the cast Screams on it to send it to the graveyard, after which Screams would return to the battlefield to enchant another creature of your choice. Next turn, Vhati would give the newly enchanted creature a toughness of one, and then Screams would do the send-creature-to-graveyard, return-itself-to-battlefield dance again, ready to destroy another creature next turn.
Another example. Screams from Within gives spells like Skinrender additional killing power once Screams from Within has been returned from the battlefield more that three times after killing a creature, in such a way it's like your getting a mana discount on your destroy creature spells and abilities.
As an example, imagine you have already had Screams from Within return to the battlefield after killing three of your opponent's creatures (perhaps they are playing a weenie deck, and you played an early, low powered Black Sun's Zenith while having Screams from Within on the battlefield to get multiple creature kills). Screams from Within currently enchants a 4/4. Next turn you plan to play Skinrender.
Skinrender, as you know, allows you to put three -1/-1 counters on the creature of your choice when it comes onto the battlefield. So you could put those counters on the opponent's 3/3 creature (the former 4/4), and use Screams from Within to finish the job and send it to the graveyard.
In the above scenario, if Blowfly Infestation was on the battlefield when Black Sun's Zenith was played, that would be at least three -1/-1 counters from your opponent's flyblown dead critters and an extra -1/-1 from the dead 4/4 creature killed by Skinrender.
1 month ago
Love the deck name! Very befitting. My Doran build I'm working on is vastly different, but I like seeing a different deck like this for comparison. I'm thinking of trying to utilize the treefolk tribal. That said, I have a lot of non-treefolk tribal cards that aren't included here too. Here are some suggestions to give you food for thought:
Birds of Paradise, Selvala, Explorer Returned, Oketra the True, Vhati il-Dal, Vizier of the Menagerie, Seedborn Muse, Pontiff of Blight, Ulvenwald Observer, Angel of Serenity, Craterhoof Behemoth, Aven Warcraft, Foul Renewal, Eland Umbra, Spidersilk Armor, Mirari's Wake, Sight of the Scalelords and Volrath's Stronghold.
I second the suggestions for Lifecrafter's Bestiary, Abzan Beastmaster and Defense of the Heart. Survival of the Fittest also couldn't hurt. Burgeoning is another strong suggestion, gonna add that to my list of potential additions to my deck.
My list is much more creature-oriented, but I think Doran ought to be a creature deck first, so maybe scaling back a little of the targeted removal would be a good idea. However, I don't know who you're up against either, so perhaps you feel you need it worse than I do.
2 months ago
Vhati il-Dal works nicely with -1/-1 counters.
Pharika, God of Affliction also does what you wanna do.
Beastmaster Ascension make your snakes into big scary snakes.
Doubling Season if money is no concern.
Infect creatures would also work great here especially Necroskitter. It may lead to hate but your horde of 1/1 D/T snake tokens should suffice as adequate chump blockers and/or deterrents.
2 months ago
And finally, Vhati il-Dal's days are numbered.
2 months ago
You can't go wrong with Ghave, Guru of Spores at the helm. He's good for +1/+1 shenanigans and within your budget. As to the -1/-1 counters if you're looking to do this in the same deck then toss in a Vhati il-Dal. If you're looking to make the -1/-1 thematic a different deck then Vhati il-Dal should be at the helm.
2 months ago
That Archfiend is screaming to be slapped into every Vhati il-Dal deck ever.
3 months ago
Interesting, I like your budget approach...but trying to keep cards under 30 cents is tough haha. Also, I think this deck may struggle to do enough damage in a commander game as ping effects generally don't do much in the format unless Vhati il-Dal is involved.
However, here are some suggestions I found. Stab Wound would be a good additional creature shrinker (for later ping-ing) and incremental life loss.
Since you run a lot of enchantments which punish opponents for blocking, the "Provoke" mechanic may interest you. Cards like Crested Craghorn or Goblin Grappler are options if you can keep them alive (sadly provoke is mainly a green mechanic). Breaker of Armies and Nemesis Mask also have similar effects.
Or you could look for further tap/untap permanents type cards. Endbringer is an option though it would require some more colorless mana (Wastes are cheap), it also is 50 cents. Goblin Archaeologist could provide more artifact removal. Puppet Strings will alow you to tap or untap at will.
I think your deck may want some sort of reanimation to it as that is what black does best, and I suspect your little guys will die rather frequently. Phyrexian Reclamation would be a nice addition to provide a pit of reanimation though it is 50 cents. Betrayal of Flesh doubles as removal and reanimation at instant speed.
Curse of Death's Hold would make pinging stuff to death easier, but again, it is 50 cents.