If you played another white spell this turn, you may play Patrician's Scorn without paying its mana cost.
Destroy all enchantments.
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|Future Sight (FUT)||Common|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Patrician's Scorn Discussion
2 weeks ago
Ah, I didn't see the Nykthos! Nice!
Yeah, I agree Ugin is more of a cute effect, but I wasn't sure how well you can generate the mana to cast him. He's always just a solid board wipe if you're able to consistently get to that high of a mana base.
I don't face against Karlovs in my meta. I'm practically the only monowhite player in my corner of the world, lol, so it's great to see you running White flag with this deck. Also, I run Abolish and Aura of Silence to get me out of binds like where Earnest Fellowship does more harm for me than good (it's also useful against Mycosynth/Karn locks). In regards to your issue with getting heat for Angel of Jubilation, it's one of the reasons why I run Earnest Fellowship, because then I can protect my Angel with 1 mana instead of 3, and it becomes more effective with Sword of Feast and Famine and Nykthos.
Earnest Fellowship is also just pretty decent against Kykar and Najeela while they're running skullclamp since the token they create are White, and you can turn Skullclamp White.
Also, take pride in being the archenemy as the monowhite player. It's not often that EDH players fear the plains. I'm proud of you for having that kind of reputation/respect on the table.
I usually use my Ghostly Prison effects in tandem with other Stax effects like Static Orb and Winter Orb, but that's more in my Heliod deck than my 8.5 deck. As you may have seen, my 8.5 deck is more geared towards Optimized play than Competitive and I can see how you might feel about the ineffectiveness Ghostly Prison might have. If your goal is to shut down your opponent's avenues of winning, however, and if the Najeela player can't combo out, the next thing they'll try to do is to just straight out attack you, which is where a Ghostly Prison can prove useful. Furthermore, Archangel of Tithes is still great when you're on the aggro and your opponent can't pay to block because you either have a Hokori/Winter Orb out, or you blew up all the lands. Also, in terms of politicking, I feel like it can help take some of the aggro/burden off of you. If the Najeela player is attack someone else to try and combo off, that player will be more inclined/invested to stop the Najeela player from doing anything as well.
Also, since you don't run many enchantments, have you thought about running Patrician's Scorn to deal with other players' enchantment stax pieces? It's particularly useful in getting rid of cards like Carpet of Flowers, Stony Silence, Necropotence, etc.
3 months ago
7 months ago
However, I'm not going to trade it down, so if you want to make a trade, I would only trade for your Doubling Season as a 1 to 1.
Either way, I'm still interested in the cards you listed, and I have some other wants from your binder:
- Elspeth, Sun's Champion (THS)
- Grafdigger's Cage
- Torpor Orb
- Welding Jar
- Etched Champion x2
- Wipe Away
- Sai, Master Thopterist
- Echoing Truth
- Groundswell x3
- Cranial Plating x2
- Galvanic Blast x2
- Hibernation x2
- Dragon's Claw x2
- Trinket Mage
- Patrician's Scorn
- Think Twice
Total Price: $40.82
I'd be interested in trading those for these cards out of what you listed:
Spellseeker , Gamble , Talisman of Hierarchy , Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion , Cruel Celebrant , Ugin, the Ineffable , Emmara, Soul of the Accord , Immolation Shaman , Bolas's Citadel , Flux Channeler , Evolution Sage , Finale of Revelation , Karn's Bastion , Inspiring Vantage , and Rugged Prairie . (Total: $39.79)
Also, I just like to say that I'm sorry for falling though on that trade we'd worked out like 6 months ago. I believe it was for my Leyline of the Void . I wasn't on this site for a while, and it kinda slipped my mind. Neither of us had sent anything at that point, so it's not a big deal, but I remembered it when I saw your username and thought I should mention it.
8 months ago
First off, I would strongly recommend that you stick to only 1 plan B unless you have decided to lose to a couple decks before going to the tournament (I usually plan on losing to humans and hollow one sometimes). Sideboard slots for this deck are thin as really we only have 11 with Leyline of Sanctity being mandatory. It's possible to run 2 plan B's, heck I once ran a Gifts Ungiven package but at a larger tournament I wouldn't recommend it, in your local meta sure as presumably the pool is less diverse and you can get away with maybe not playing something like Hurkyl's Recall , but at a larger tournament that can come back to bite you, for example at a GP I once took out a card from the board as it only hit a couple matchups and I wanted some other matchups to be tighter and proceeded to play the one deck the card I took out was good against 3 times out of the first 4 rounds. At large tournaments its a hard call sometimes but generally don't make a decision that isn't necessary which will cost you games for simply making your percentage slightly higher against something else.
As for The Scorn it is a card that is actually a favorite of mine and one I commonly play (you just happen to have found my list at a time that I am not on it unfortunately) I briefly mention my thoughts on The Scorn in the primer and I'll quote myself here to save you having to look around for it:
" Patrician's Scorn : A free removal spell, Patrician's Scorn has proven to be a very flexible card out of the sideboard in the right meta (though is probably too narrow for most big tournaments). Unlike other enchantment removal, Patrician's Scorn has the ability to cause a win out of nowhere via casting it upon the resolution of Angel's Grace or in response to Phyrexian Unlife removing problem enchantments. Very meta-dependent card however."
The way the card was errata'ed? (I guess it would have to be a gerund so erratandum but it isn't really a verb in the English, this is proof taking a Latin word to English sometimes doesn't work) makes it more interesting seeing how the alternate cost can be paid upon the "casting" of another white spell not just the resolution meaning it can be cast for free in response to Phyrexian Unlife . I will reiterate what I said in the primer however, its usage is very meta dependent. If you expect to see a lot of G/W Company, Faeries (its medium in this matchup), or Bogles then it is very good, otherwise its just okay at best and at worst you will never touch it. All three of those matchups are winnable without The Scorn so unless you expect to face them a lot I would prioritize a different matchup that you are maybe less confident in or you expect to see more of.
P.S. Patrician's Scorn looks great in foil by the way.
8 months ago
Oloro_Magic Thanks for the insight! I can see Keranos being a good plan B. I decided to put him in the side along with my Dragonlord. And you make a valid point on pact. I'll have to experiment and try it out again. What's your thoughts on Patrician's Scorn as a free enchantment removal after resolving grace? A buddy of mine put me onto the card and has helped me against certain matchups like Bogles.
8 months ago
Looks like a fun deck!
Hope this helps!
1 year ago
As far as individual cards go you are correct both Fragmentize and Disenchant are more powerful than Patrician's Scorn, however my choice of playing Patrician's Scorn is not out of judging what the most powerful enchantment hate I can use in my sideboard is, it's more specifically targeted at a couple of decks in my current local meta where it is very good, notably the advance of R/W prison around here, a deck that has access to a multitude of problem enchantments, notably Card: stony silence, Eidolon of Rhetoric, Blood Moon, Rule of Law, Runed Halo, Banishing Light, and the list goes on as this player really focused on the enchantment side of things, not to mention U/W control seeing more play here with Runed Halo, Card: stony silence, amongst over more fringe tech. Scorn opens up a line in certain scenarios (basically when Rule of Law isn't out) where I can Angel's Grace then scorn removing any obstacle and then casting Ad Nauseam and winning from seemingly nowhere. As such for my current needs a simple Disenchant, while considered, will only serve to solve part of the problem. At a larger tournament I'm more likely to take the Disenchant as you correctly pointed out it's more powerful, but at this point in time Patrician's Scorn is the best option to deal with the problem. Thank you for pointing it out and allowing me to more fully explain the choice!