Passing priority

Asked by Doomed_Traveler77 7 years ago

Player one's turn, he casts Engulf the Shore...priority passes to me, I do not respond.player one then casts Void Shatter on his Engulf the Shore countering it so it does not resolve (right?)

I respond to the Void Shatter with a Spell Shrivel countering the counter forcing Engulf the Shore to resolve.

Is this the correct/legal?Do I have priority to cast Spell Shrivel in response to Void Shatter and can player one counter his own spell before it resolves?

Had to pause mid-game to ask this! Thanks guys!

Busse says... #1

Yes, all you of the above is true. The stack resolves once both players have passed priority without taking action, thing that would happen right after you cast Spell Shrivel.
I don't understand WHY would this scenario happen in a normal match, but hey... it's your match.

Cheers

August 7, 2016 6:51 p.m.

Not quite.

When Player 1 casts Engulf the Shore, he receives priority again afterward, once he passes it to you, and you don't respond, Engulf the Shore resolves. You don't keep passing priority back and forth without doing anything.

Your opponent would have had to hold priority to immediately respond to his own spell with Void Shatter, at which time he can pass priority to you so you can respond with Spell Shrivel.

August 7, 2016 8:39 p.m.

Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #3

@Busse: Incorrect. Note that "The stack resolves" is never an accurate description of events. Individual objects on the stack resolve one at a time, and priority must be passed before each individual resolution. The stack never resolves as a whole set of objects.

If your opponent passes priority to you, and you pass it back without doing anything, then a "round" of priority has occurred and the topmost object on the stack resolves (or, if there are no objects on the stack, the game moves to the next step or phase).

In this case, if your opponent cast Engulf the Shore and passed priority, and you passed priority back, then Engulf the Shore would resolve. Only after that would your opponent get priority back. He wouldn't be able to cast Void Shatter.

This is where it gets unclear, though. If your opponent didn't actually pass priority to you (for example, you assumed that to be the case, but your opponent wasn't done yet), then we need to inspect the options.

If your opponent retains priority and casts Void Shatter before passing priority to you, then you can respond to Void Shatter.

If your opponent just casts Engulf the Shore and passes priority, then you can either pass priority back and allow it to resolve or cast Spell Shrivel. If you cast Spell Shrivel, then your opponent can cast Void Shatter in response to that.

August 7, 2016 8:56 p.m.

Busse says... #4

Indeed, my bad; I did interpret the thing assuming the first player cast Void Shatter immediately after its own Engulf the Shore. Here, some extra backup to the point.

116.3c If a player has priority when he or she casts a spell, activates an ability, or takes a special action, that player receives priority afterward.

405.5. When all players pass in succession, the top (last-added) spell or ability on the stack resolves. If the stack is empty when all players pass, the current step or phase ends and the next begins.

Cheers people.

August 8, 2016 7:41 a.m.

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