Thoughtseize

Sorcery

Target player reveals their hand. You choose a nonland card from it. That player discards that card. You lose 2 life.

Combos

• Quicken + Thoughtseize
• Dreadhorde Arcanist + Thoughtseize

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Freeform	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
PreDH	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (49)

Cloudy2024 on

4 weeks ago

And 4 Thoughtseize!

Cloudy2024 on

1 month ago

More Thoughtseize

Cloudy2024 on

1 month ago

4 Thoughtseize and only 2 Inquisition of Kozilek

Cloudy2024 on Mono Black Control

2 months ago

must run 4 Thoughtseize and some Inquisition of Kozilek

Cloudy2024 on Retro Wizards (Grixis)

2 months ago

maybe some Thoughtseize in the main and less sureil lands, as three is probably enough

Evensong96 on The Stars Align

3 months ago

Thanks zap, appreciate the feedback! First, thanks for the sideboard thoughts, and yeah, Rhystic StudyGC probably isn't the best in this deck. As far as backup plan goes, this deck very deliberately has no backup plan. I want to find a list that makes this strategy efficient and competitive in a very hostile environment. So Nadu could be a good include, but I'm only going to include him if he accelerates the main win con or provides other utility. For this particular deck, if I win by any other means than getting my Hedron Alignments aligned, I've lost the game.

As for Swords to Plowshares, are you thinking of running them just to slow the opponent down? As far as adding control goes, I mostly want to do that on the basis of actual play experience, because it's hard to read the right balance of control without actually playing the cards.

Thoughtseize goes straight in, because we can also target ourselves to get a Hedron Alignment into the graveyard that way

zapyourtumor on The Stars Align

3 months ago

Just to preface this with a disclaimer that I have never played a game of legacy in my life

Three steps ahead and minds aglow are probably not playable. Deck wants at least one basic, probably a basic island. I recommend running Swords to Plowshares maindeck. Probably also want Thoughtseize just for more disruption and protection, since there are some things you can't interact with on the stack.

Rhystic study is bad in 1v1 and also not useful as a sideboard slot. I recommend looking at some legacy decks for sideboard options. Stuff like consign to memory, pending, flusterstorm, pithing needle, ghost vacuum (can exile your own hedron), etc.

Lastly I think the deck needs a backup plan. For example Nadu Breakfast has both Cephalid mill combo, Nadu combo, saga construct beatdown backup plan, nadu beatdown backup plan. Reanimator has murktide beatdown plan, and before the bans they had grief and troll beatdown plans as well. Because you have entomb you could fit a reanimation plan here but I'm not sure. But definitely need some way to win if you get hedron alignment surgicaled or something.

CommanderNeyo on Lord Tiago, Forsaken Spellbinder (Updated Again)

4 months ago

Personally, I would remove the following:

• Vampire Hexmage, as it only works well with Thing in the Ice  ^Flip - and is otherwise a dead card. If you really want the effect, you could consider Heartless Act, which works as removal or can trigger Thing in the Ice  ^Flip at instant-speed.

• Murder, at 3 mana is a high price to pay to remove a creature, and there is more efficient removal out there. Consider cards like Fatal Push, Dismember, or Infernal Grasp

• Dash Hopes, giving your opponent the choice to keep their spell is not ideal for a control deck like this one.

I would put 2 or 3 Murktide Regents in the mainboard, as the card is a powerful wincon.

Psychic Frog should probably come out of the maybeboard, as it works well with Murktide and is a powerful card draw engine and wincon in its own right.

You might also consider cards like Duress, Thoughtseize, or Inquisition of Kozilek to rip apart your opponents' hands.

While you may not want to net-deck, you may want to check out what are popular decks so you can tune your sideboard to match (or just go to your LGS and see what they play there).