Thoughtseize

Sorcery

Target player reveals their hand. You choose a nonland card from it. That player discards that card. You lose 2 life.

Combos

• Quicken + Thoughtseize
• Dreadhorde Arcanist + Thoughtseize

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (49)

wallisface on Kamarupa’s Challenge

1 week ago

I think Choke is a card you’d probably leave in the sideboard to battle decks that use islands. But I think Power Conduit is a good mainboard addition:

• 4x Blooming Marsh
• 3x Oboro, Palace in the Clouds
• 1x Overgrown Tomb
• 4x Polluted Delta
• 4x Swamp
• 4x Verdant Catacombs

• 4x Urza's Saga

• 3x Quicksilver Fountain

• 4x Power Conduit
• 1x Shadowspear
• 1x Expedition Map
• 1x Nihil Spellbomb

• 1x Pithing Needle

• 4x Fatal Push

• 4x Damnation
• 2x Cling to Dust
• 4x Collective Brutality
• 3x Shadow of Doubt

• 4x Thoughtseize

• 4x Bloodghast

Cloudy2024 on Bone Friends

2 weeks ago

cool, Thoughtseize might be a good addition to the deck!

legendofa on Lotus Petal vs. Chrome Mox

3 weeks ago

Not competitive (especially Legacy), but I'm an 8-Rack enthusiast.

Setting up fast is important. Once you have your Rack lock set up, at least in my experience, you only really need a couple mana each turn, so the mana from that Chrome Mox might be less valuable than the card that got imprinted. Especially with a set of Dark Rituals, it should be easy to set at least one Rack effect and a Hymn to Tourach or Thoughtseize on turn 1 and build with 1-2 mana a turn from there, with a little burst for Liliana of the Veil or Ensnaring Bridge or whatever as needed.

So my vote's for the Lotus Petal. Prioritizing your denial and removal seems more important than a guaranteed extra {B} each turn, but I'd be very interested to see how well it works in practice.

Ravndark on Lantern Control *Primer*

1 month ago

KongMing The decks back then were using a loop of Pyrite Spellbomb to continually ping the opponent. It's become less useful as of right now, since a lot of Activated Ability hate is out there. I've been questioning if that's the route I'd like to go again, but finding room is hard. Cutting coloured lands makes the Ancient Stirrings and Thoughtseize and Inquisition of Kozilek a little harder to cast.

Xica on How to deal with [[The One Ring]]

3 months ago

I didn't want to list counterspells and targeted discard, since they are the trivial choice.
I mean all of them work.

And there is a LOT of them. I didn't want to list all flavours of Counterspell with various up and downsides. And same goes for Thoughtseize, Duress, Mire's Toll, Collective Brutality. There are way too many.
And targeted discard is a way sketchier proposition than counterspells, as they turn the game into topdeck - where they don't help against the one ring.

wallisface on Brew ideas for Scrawling Crawler

3 months ago

Another very rough idea, deliberately not using OneRing as it might be gone in a month, and none of this list makes any sense in a world where it still exists.

• 21x Lands
• 4x Orcish Bowmasters
• 3x Sorin of House Markov  ^Flip
• 4x Scrawling Crawler
• 3x Boggart Trawler  ^Flip
• 4x Sheoldred, the Apocalypse
• 3x Birthing Ritual
• 4x Necrodominance
• 3x March of Wretched Sorrow
• 4x Soul Spike
• 4x Fatal Push
• 3x Thoughtseize

legendofa on Brew ideas for Scrawling Crawler

3 months ago

First pass, probably lots of room for improvement:

24 lands

4x Scrawling Crawler

4x Orcish Bowmasters

4x Stormfist Crusader

3x Sheoldred, the Apocalypse

4x Kederekt Parasite

1x Spiteful Visions

4x Blood Moon

4x Damping Sphere

2x Burning Inquiry

3x Lightning Bolt

3x Thoughtseize

This tries to win off passive damage, although the Crusader and Orc Army can chip in if they get a clear lane. Blood Moon and Damping Sphere shut down opponents' production, and you don't need to be casting a big pile of spells each turn anyway. Bolt and Thoughtseize are a pretty typical 1-mana removal package, but I'm soft on Thoughtseize as a late-game draw. Kederekt Parasite also feels subpar, but it's the cheapest draw punishment available. In testing it, I would watch the ratio of forced drawing to control effects--handing opponents free resources is dangerous, and if you can't shut them down, you're setting yourself up for failure.

wallisface on I need help creating a …

4 months ago

Some thoughts:

• Generally a deck wants either countermagic or hand-disruption, not normally both - as it creates a weird jumble of tempo and mismatched-plans. This is why you'll see basically no control decks running hand disruption. In that vein i'd suggest removing the Thoughtseize.

• A lot of cards in your deck are just not good. Specifically, instead of running Anoint with Affliction, Corrupted Resolve, Serum Snare, Reject Imperfection, or Fuel for the Cause, you're better off just running good-cards like Counterspell, Fatal Push, and Drown in the Loch.

• Similarly, Infectious Inquiry being sorcery speed makes it really terrible and unplayable. Same goes for Vivisurgeon's Insight and Phyrexian Arena. These cards are all just too clumsy, don't do enough, and give your opponent the opportunity to do things.

• I think your creatures validate your opponents interaction too much and also mess with your own plan to control the game.

• The sideboard choices confuse me.

If I were trying to build a deck like this, I'd be using the following as a base:

• 23x Lands
• 3x Virulent Wound
• 4x Prologue to Phyresis
• 4x Vraska's Fall
• 4x Drown in Ichor
• 1x Inexorable Tide
• 2x Damnation
• 2x Cling to Dust
• 3x Fatal Push
• 4x Counterspell
• 4x Drown in the Loch
• 2x Sheoldred's Edict
• 4x Preordain