Night's Whisper

Sorcery

You draw two cards and you lose 2 life.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pauper	Legal
Pauper Duel Commander	Legal
Pauper EDH	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (51)

kamarupa on Orzhov's Ally Debt Collectors

5 days ago

Love me some Allies! Nice! +1

Raise the Past might be worth considering - 4MV to hit so many creatures is just value town.

Ephemerate seems like it would be nice, especially with Tocasia's Welcome, which would probably draw you enough cards to be worth the slightly higher MV than Sign in Blood and slower, more conditional requirements. Sword-Point Diplomacy might be worth considering, too. And given how few dual lands you're running, I might opt for Night's Whisper over Sign in Blood. While technically you can kill an opponent with a Sign in Blood, I think in practice we almost never do. But we do often not have BB to cast a Sign in Blood when we need it most.

kamarupa on LongLegs

2 weeks ago

Just to be "clear" (lol), Silent Clearing is not card advantage. It would have to draw at least 2 cards to qualify as card advantage. I'd probably go with with Sword-Point Diplomacy or Night's Whisper. Esper Sentinel would probably come in as a very distant 3rd choice for me, being too conditional and easy to remove for my taste.

Given how integral The Sibsig Ceremony is to your deck, I would count on opponents sideboarding every enchantment removal spell they have in the second game. In my experience, getting a Hall into play makes opponents feel completely defeated before they can even cast enchantment removal.

kamarupa on Orzhov Rottenmouth

1 month ago

I really like your creature base here - It seems like it's well focused on getting you cantrips to progress your deck toward your wincon and utilities.

That said, I think the supporting spells are a little all over the place and sometimes not the best option for the purpose they serve. For example, you might swap Blood Fountain for Raise the Past. They're basically the same MV (4), except with the former you get a Blood Token (not that great, IMO, and a mana sink in a deck with already too few lands) vs getting all your 1 drops not back to your hand, but to the battlefield. Similarly, I don't see any purpose to Niveous Wisps at all. Can-trips aren't card advantage, so the only real function it serves is to make a creature white, which has no bearing I can see on any other spells. Night's Whisper would be better, I think, though you've already got Dawn of a New Age AND quite a few Investigate triggers, so I don't think you really even need anymore card draw spells.

I think you'd be better served with some classic removal spells at instant speed than the Artifacts and Enchantments you're running. Path to Exile, Fatal Push, Dismember, etc. Even the two instants in your Sideboard seem more like Mainboard spells, while some of the Mainboard spells seem like Sideboard spells.

Since it seems like the goal of the deck is to play weenie creatures until you slam down a Rottenmouth Viper, I think the deck would benefit from another 4x creatures 1-2MV creatures. To that end, I think your protection spell that currently in your sideboard really deserves being in the mainboard - given that your plan is to sac most your board to play one big creature, your opponents are going to wait until you do that and then try to remove your one creature. So having something ready to protect it seems essential to the success of the deck.

As far as possible creatures to add - I think your best options are "when...dies" creatures like Deathgreeter, Doomed Traveler, and Fear of Lost Teeth - The ones like Doomed Traveler seem especially good as they replenish your board state as you sac. There's a bunch of them, too - here's a link to a search I did :)

Finally, I suggest adding at least 2 more lands.

DreadKhan on Help with my Warrior Deck

1 month ago

Things you might want to look at switching out: Bleeding Effect, Sisay's Ring (this is an awful, awful card in a deck that has access to Green ramp IMHO), Worn Powerstone (this is a better card than Sisay's Ring, but not by very much), Candlekeep Sage, Tales of Master Seshiro, Inspiring Roar (this is a very bad card), Silverflame Ritual (see Roar), Lifecrafter's Gift (see Roar), Skyrider Elf, Ogre Sentry, Oakgnarl Warrior, and Abzan Kin-Guard.

Things you might consider to pulling (these are better cards, but there are often much better options): Font of Fortune (just play Night's Whisper please?), Leyline of Abundance (do you have enough mana dorks to justify this?), Omen of the Sea (see Font), Reality Twist (this card is maximum fun but probably does nothing in lots of situations, people are running less and less Basic lands), Basri's Solidarity (maybe play Metastatic Evangel?), arguably all of the 4 mana land ramp spells are kinda risky in here, I feel like you need more veggies like Rampant Growth and Sakura-Tribe Elder to help with early mana, Artifcer's Epiphany (please run Painful Truths over this), Tarkir Doomshaper, Maulfist Revolutionary, and Kin-Tree Warden.

I mentioned a few things worth looking at, but you also might like Najeela, the Blade-Blossom, she's probably the single best Warrior syngery piece. Najeela is VERY GOOD with Derevi, Empyrial Tactician, not sure if Derevi would be 'too good'. I'm sure you've heard of them both, but Karn's Bastion and Gavony Township are great in a counters list, as is good old Atraxa, Praetors' Voice. Finally, you could try Evolution Sage, it's good if you've got a few counters out already. It's in crazy-town, but if you end up using some Proliferate stuff and have lots of creature tokens you might like City of Shadows, I usually lose one or two creatures to it in order to get some decent ramp in a Selesnya deck.

I would look into more Proliferate if you find your deck is already pretty good at getting that first counter on your creatures, especially repeatable Proliferate stuff.

Cloudy2024 on Kuroikage

3 months ago

you should try Night's Whisper as is good to re-load your hand and lose life.

DreadKhan on Which is More Important: Total …

3 months ago

In my limited experience, most decks want it's 'key pieces' to be as low to the ground as possible, this is why Night's Whisper is a very good card, it works in hands where you are short of key resources (but not so short that you couldn't risk the hand), and it's still completely worth playing if you draw it fairly late in the game; drawing 2 cards is almost universally a good thing, and only paying 1B to do it means you can either play it early or play it late and follow it up with something you drew. In contrast a card like Tower of Fortunes is a trap in almost every list because you need to input a grand total of 12 mana to draw ANY cards, meaning it's a dead card until you can generate 8 mana in one turn. That makes the card a lot worse in practice, since every game has early turns and only some games go long enough for Tower to really shine.

The same is true about ramping, something like Utopia Sprawl (or Crop Rotation might fit better lol) is incredibly efficient, it can be played turn 1 in many games and if it's drawn late it's literally mana neutral, making it a 'free roll' in decks that can count on having a Forest early. In contrast Explosive Vegetation is unplayable turn 1 in almost any situation, ditto for turn 2, and you will need to have ramped to play it by turn 3. This means that if you're stuck on 2 lands something like Farseek could find you a key land but Explosive Veggies will just sit there making you feel stupid. This makes Explosive Veggies a relatively unimpressive card, and that's why you don't see as much ramp that costs more than 3 (and many Spikey players hate paying more than 2 for ramp), it plays a lot worse in hands that would otherwise be keeps, and they can actually cost you games.

In contrast though there are 'value cards' (usually MV 4-6), these aren't necessarily going to win the game by themselves but these are important in metas that don't expect anyone to win too early. These types of cards can cost more mana because they're doing a lot, but most deck builders quickly realize you can only include so many of this type of card, specifically because they WILL clog your early hands. These types of cards drive up your average MV, most people like something in the 2.5-3.5 range (most prefer lower fwiw). It's worth noting that spells that cost 7-10 mana are often WAY more powerful, but most of these aren't necessary to win games, and due to their sky high MV these are even worse about clogging your hand. People are generally fine with Expropriate from a power level perspective, even if many find it boring, but I think a plurality of decks that are power level 7 and up eschew big mana stuff because they don't need it, if you can win with Rite of the Raging Storm then you don't need Expropriate. In cEDH people actually skew even lower on MVs, especially Ad Nauseam lists, and it turns out it's very possible to win games using almost nothing but MV 2 and under stuff, and unsurprisingly these incredibly fast and low to the ground win cons are the most powerful.

Ultimately the less resources you need to put into an effect the better that effect. It's equally true that all things being equal doing the exact same thing a turn earlier is MUCH better, and it keeps getting better each turn sooner (in an exponential manner). The complication for me is that cards aren't very equal, and it's actually possible to build decks that assiduously ignore all of the conventions I mentioned here (my Pavel Maliki deck has 17 5 drops and an average MV of 4.20, while my Sunastian Falconer deck has a gobsmacking MV of 5.35, both are functional decks IMHO) if you simply run better cards that have relatively high MVs, and run enough of them that you will consistently have one or more to choose from. The Pavel deck happily runs some stuff like Omen of Fire that can be completely dead because the deck can usually afford to have dead cards and still be a threat, and the Sunastian deck runs some pretty derpy 'big' creatures, many aren't even cost effective, it just doesn't matter because if you have enough huge creatures it doesn't matter if you paid extra for them, they're still huge creatures that will stomp the opponent into gravy! In effect both decks win the games they win via scale, Pavel tends to have a lot of cards that trade for multiple cards, and Sunastian's effects are often so bulky that they just go right over other decks.

Even in 1v1 some of my weird Legacy decks sneak in some pretty high MV cards, and often these cards can steal games when I'm in topdeck mode (in Legacy anything over MV 2 is considered 'really high' fwiw), even if they cost me a few when I draw terribly and have 5 3 drops in my first 9 cards and I scoop. Ball Lightning is a really bad card by many metrics, but if you playtest a Burn deck in throw one or two in they WILL steal the odd game due to card efficiency (Burn's biggest problem has always been running out of Bolts).

Fluggleshmuggits on Cube Eternal

4 months ago

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Faith's Fetters
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Otherworldly Outburst
Thrill of Possibility
Night's Whisper
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Flarhoon13 on Blim's Blumpkins

5 months ago

Oct 11 Blim's Blumpkins lost again Evan on Sarevok, Deathbringer / Clan Crafter) exiled Blim, Comedic Genius with an instant in my main phase after I played Nefarious Lich with Deadly Rollick... I had one card, Night's Whisper, in the graveyard. As the old saying goes, live by the Nefarious Lich, die by the Nefarious Lich. Rob ended me with his Hand of the Praetors