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Rules Q&A
Palladia-Mors, the Ruiner
Legendary Creature — Lukka
Flying, vigilance, trample
Palladia-Mors, the Ruiner has hexproof if it hasn't dealt damage yet.
FadingReality on
Dragons, Dragons, Dragons
1 year ago
First off I would replace Doors of Durin with Rhythm of the Wild. Doors of durin isn't a bad card, but there's a couple things.
Second, Terror of the Peaks needs to be in the deck. He's way too good not to be. He's offense and defense simultaneously. Most of the dragons in your deck will let you kill almost any creature on the field while Terror of the Peaks is out when you cast them. I'd either cut Palladia-Mors, the Ruiner or Taigam, Ojutai Master. I'd probably cut Palladia though becuase she's a big beater that doesn't do anything else. After it attacks once (its only purpose in life) it doesn't even have hexproof. It's just a 6/6 with flying (which all your dragons have) and trample and vigilance. Whatever you cut, find a place for terror!
Guerric on
[Primer] Unleash the Dragon! *Updated*
2 years ago
Update February 16, 2022
I need to get around to finishing the primer, and there are a few dragons printed in recent sets that I am considering for the deck. The following are on my list-
1) Kairi, the Swirling Sky This new dragon has a lot of potential. What is most important is its ward ability, which can cause targeted removal against us to fizzle. Being able to use Scion's ability to protect itself is the best, and we heavily rely on Silumgar, the Drifting Death and Quicksilver Dragon for this. More protection pieces are highly welcome. It's also nice to have consolation for when Scion dies to a board wipe. Getting to mill some more dragons into our graveyard or draw some of our many instants and sorceries for free is a great value, and there may be times when we want to get some revenge by bouncing some of our opponent's non-creature permanents. This is good value all around.
2) Iymrith, Desert Doom While the ward affect is a bit conditional here, we'll still be able to use it more than we think, particularly if we haven't attacked or have something that gave us vigilance. Its far better than Palladia-Mors, the Ruiner, which showed promise but was very unlikely to help us out. The amazing thing here though is simply that it can draw cards, and helps us especially when we're down and can reload to three. This is the entire reason we run Dragon Mage, and it will be a super nice addition.
3) Lathliss, Dragon Queen I've thought about adding this for years, and maybe now will be the time. While it's not quite Utvara Hellkite and is less good as a Scion activation, it can still be pretty problematic for our opponents when we recur or mass recur, and could feasbily win a lot of games. I'll probably run it.
4) Old Gnawbone This is the best card printed for the deck in years. Its floor is high and it's ceiling is the sky. It's also very on theme for Dragons to hoard treasure! The only problem is its price tag in real world $, so it probably won't go in for now. Nonetheless, I'll be watching for when it either drops at rotation or enjoys a reprint.
rdean14 on Card creation challenge
2 years ago
Palladia-Mors and Palladia-Mors, the Ruiner are the worst Elder Dragons, imo. I want her to get better representation...
Palladia-Mors, the Hunter
Legendary Creature - Mors
+2: Palladia-Mors, the Hunter deals 5 damage to target creature or planeswalker. Excess damage is dealt to that permanent's controller instead.
-5: Choose a permanent type. Each player chooses a number they control equal to the number controlled by the player who controls the fewest permanents of that type, then sacrifices the rest.
-14: Creatures you control gain lifelink and indestructible. Each creature deals damage equal to its power to each other creature.
Palladia-Mors, the Hunter can be your Commander
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I'd like to see one of the three other Original Elder Dragons made into a Planeswalker-Commander:
Arcades Sabboth / Arcades, the Strategist
Chromium Rhuell / Chromium, the Mutable
multimedia on
Atla Palani, Nest Tender
4 years ago
Hey, nice budget version of Atla.
You have three of the best cards with Atla: Mirror Entity, Skullclamp and Goblin Bombardment. Eladamri's Call, Open the Armory and Idyllic Tutor are tutors for one of these cards. Crop Rotation can tutor for High Market or Opal Palace. Palace is actually an important card with Atla because if you cast her with Palace then she gets a +1/+1 counter. Atla having a counter means she doesn't die when you activate Mirror Entity for zero turning all creatures you control into 0/0 Eggs. This is how you can take real advantage of Entity.
Some budget lands to consider adding: Ash Barrens, Battlefield Forge, Canopy Vista
Cards to consider cutting to add the tutors and lands: Rugged Highlands, Birthing Boughs, Dragon Egg, Crucible of Fire, Palladia-Mors, the Ruiner, Explosive Vegetation, Sunscorch Regent
Good luck with your deck.
BMHKain on Help Needed for Pramikon, Sky …
4 years ago
Oh, hello! Sorry I didn't comment earlier. Well, thanks. I suppose the Defender Tribe idea was the better one all this time? I was looking for some more diversity on the effects, but maybe I was wrong after this. Appreciate the advice though! Oddly, I'm not restricted to "Off-Color" stuff also; but a WIP Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge deck of mine doesn't focus of cheap to cast Instants or Sorceries; just the very best in her colors that although Expensive to Hardcast, really are incredible in this case.
But, yeah. You definitely are onto something, but I'll need to revise some of my Older Stuff for recent memory (Core Set 2021/JUMPSTART) for now.
Oh, & almost forgot about the Budget of mine. Get ready. Even though I do make some exceptions to the rule, Original Dual Lands are usually off the table. Fetchlands like Scalding Tarn Are extremely price hungry, but Khans of Tarkir Fetchland Reprints are just fine. Gaea's Cradle was used several times, but I'm not putting another in a future deck list again. Nearly anything not reprinted from Portal as a Whole, Legends, even Arabian Nights are all out; Why would I fork over $1000+ on anything?
What I'm trying to convey is that the budget isn't exactly upon the deck as a whole, but on the individual cards. Usually ~$100 is the average threshold each. Hope this helps. :)
Oh, & one last thing before I have to put the rails back on topic. Besides Dragon Tribal, Auras, or even Equipment, how would you build a Palladia-Mors, the Ruiner deck? I'll get this back on topic after.
& thanks for the advice, Sultai_Sir! I'll see what I can do about it. :)
multimedia on
There be dragons!!
4 years ago
Hey, nice budget version of Scion.
Open the Armory can help as it's a budget tutor to get a protection equipment or aura. Memory's Journey lets you choose any three Dragons in your graveyard and put them back into your library to then become those Dragons again with Scion. It's also some protection at instant speed from having Dragons in your graveyard being exiled by an opponent. Can do this twice because Journey has flashback.
Faeburrow Elder can tap for two mana (green and white), but if you have other colored permanents on the battlefield then it can tap for that color of mana also. With Scion on the battlefield it can tap for five mana (one of each color). Paradise Druid is a two drop who can tap for any color of mana and it has hexproof protection as long as it's not tapped.
For six colorless mana Cascading Cataracts can cast Scion. It helps a lot with a budget manabase when you don't have ideal color fixing. Exotic Orchard is another budget Rainbow land which is excellent in mutiplayer Commander when your opponents will have lands on the battlefield that can make many different colors. Unclaimed Territory is Dragon tribal Rainbow land. It's worth adding Crop Rotation since it can tutor for a Rainbow land especially if you add Cataracts.
When Savage Ventmaw attacks it makes six mana and you can use this mana to activate Scion three times before the end of combat. Dragon Tyrant is another win condition Dragon. After pumping with Moldensteel turn Scion into Tyrant and kill with double strike Commander damage. Palladia-Mors, the Ruiner is another Dragon who has hexproof.
Some cards to consider cutting:
- Transguild Promenade
- Wind-Scarred Crag
- Bloodfell Caves
- Blossoming Sands
- Navigator's Compass
- Oasis Ritualist
- Quirion Elves
- Strider Harness
- Shielding Plax
- Mage's Guile
- Chromanticore
Good luck with your deck.
BMHKain on Help Needed for Pramikon, Sky …
4 years ago
Since I'm/we're not allowed to Bump, I'll just get to the primary topic,
I'll just remove some unneeded elements of the OP Post in case anyone still cares; although I do ponder if My third color is ; but that's for another time.
I'll just ask again: Do you think the Direction I'm going for this is a good idea or not? & if the latter is so, what's the better solution than Low Toughness, but Awesome effects?
Though I really do want to make a Palladia-Mors, the Ruiner, as Vaevictis Asmadi, the Dire has a lot of options for Deck Design. That means I'll want some Non-Dragon Tribal Options for Nicol Bolas' Sister of all things as she's the Black Sheep of the Elder Dragons, & I want to see to it she has a use. (Yes, Palladia-Mors is female, like I thought Mothra was a male at first. What localization of a Mothra Film was I watching...? DX)
Wait, we're not allowed to Bump? I still ponder as to why, & if otherwise, why was I following such conduct in the first place? >_<
BMHKain on Help Needed for Pramikon, Sky …
4 years ago
What does The Wall need for more Malice? MURDER.
Commander / EDH*
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Arcades, the Strategist? NOPE.
Doran, the Siege Tower? WRONG.
When it comes to Toughness Matters CMDRs, Pramikon, Sky Rampart
would be literal Wall Tribe Lord incarnate that's the closest to Tribal Commanders on a Niche status (We got Hydra Lord now, & It creates so many on the fly.), but I'm not here for yet another Tribal Commander, I just wanted help for one thing right now:
(How do I make a Toughness Matters) deck in //? Commander: Pramikon, Sky Rampart. In spite of my Efforts, the First thing I need help w/ is:
1: Is there anything in MTG's entire Glossary of stuff that's good for Toughness Matters in ?
2: Notice most of my High Toughness Creatures aren't simply there as Defenders. Most actually have great abilities; & even don't have to be Wall Card Type to be so. Do you see this as a good idea, or not? This is very important if you're viewing my deck at incomplete status.
3: This is planned as a Toughness Matters deck, but some of the cards seem to show a Sub-Theme (Drannith Magistrate (HE'S NOT THE UNLUCKIEST. CEASE DEBATE. XP), & even Peregrine Drake.). Since this isn't the conventional Toughness Matters Deck using Defender more than I should, what do you think might be good here?
Honestly, I dunno what else to ask; maybe I'll add more questions overtime. Thanks for the help if you can; Obviously, this is a Pramikon, Sky Rampart "Toughness Matters" deck, but I'd rather Talk less of / (Golgari Swarm), & talk nothing at all about Doran, the Siege Tower as well as Arcades, the Strategist; I just want to experiment on a good Brew. Any ideas that can help? Thanks again. :)
(& sorry for the Huge Wall back there; I didn't think I wanted help again. X/ At least I eradicated it.)
