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| Format | Legality |
| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Oathbreaker | Legal |
| Oldschool 93/94 | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| Premodern | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Vaevictis Asmadi
Legendary Creature — Elder Dragon
Flying
At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice Vaevictis Asmadi unless you pay .
: Vaevictis Asmadi gets +1/+0 until end of turn.
: Vaevictis Asmadi gets +1/+0 until end of turn.
: Vaevictis Asmadi gets +1/+0 until end of turn.
rdean14 on Card creation challenge
2 years ago
Palladia-Mors and Palladia-Mors, the Ruiner are the worst Elder Dragons, imo. I want her to get better representation...
Palladia-Mors, the Hunter
Legendary Creature - Mors
+2: Palladia-Mors, the Hunter deals 5 damage to target creature or planeswalker. Excess damage is dealt to that permanent's controller instead.
-5: Choose a permanent type. Each player chooses a number they control equal to the number controlled by the player who controls the fewest permanents of that type, then sacrifices the rest.
-14: Creatures you control gain lifelink and indestructible. Each creature deals damage equal to its power to each other creature.
Palladia-Mors, the Hunter can be your Commander
7
I'd like to see one of the three other Original Elder Dragons made into a Planeswalker-Commander:
Arcades Sabboth / Arcades, the Strategist
Chromium Rhuell / Chromium, the Mutable
Idoneity on None
3 years ago
The set of Legends introduced both Legendary creatures and multi-coloured cards into the game. More important is the second for the sake of this comment.
Dakkon Blackblade , of the same set as Halfdane , oddly adheres to what we see today of the ordering, being .
Lady Evangela bears the mana cost of .
More inconsistencies can be seen in Sol'kanar ()and Tetsuo Umezawa (), Xira Arien () and Vaevictis (), and, lastly, Angus () and Ragnar ().
Oddly enough, all of the four Naya legends ( Johan , Jacques , Palladia-Mors , and Hazezon Tamar) have the same colour ordering.
All of the two-colour combinations (except for Rakdos ?) are backwards from what we see today, yet are all constant.
The Dark's Scarwood Gobbo () is similar to Legends' mana costs, an ensample being The Lady of the Mountain () (my favourite card of all time).
The afield system seems to have been rectified in Ice Age, for it had Centaur Archer (), Diabolic Vision (), and Chromatic Armor ().
(Legends had Jedit Ojanen ())
My concensus here is that WOTC did not have much of a grasp as to amounts and mana costs in the debut set, whereupon inconsistencies may be seen about the expansion, yet they righted this two releases later.
Not much is actually in this comment, but others may use this information as they wish to sieve through Magic's multi-coloured monstrosities.
plakjekaas on Please help save this game
3 years ago
EDH was created by judges, who after long days of running big tournaments, wanted to play some magic, but not the magic they had been observing and correcting all day. So they made some 3-color singleton (Highlander) decks, commanded by one of the original Shard-colored legendary Dragons from Legends: Arcades Sabboth , Chromium , Nicol Bolas , Palladia-Mors or Vaevictis Asmadi . 5 Elder Dragons, all 7 power. If you got hit 3 times by one of these, you'd lose the game, regardless of your life total. Elder Dragon Highlander, 21 commander damage is lethal.
This resulted in a casual, fun-oriented, table kitchen style of playing magic. Wizards does know that only a very tiny percentage of their player base is actually playing in sanctioned tournaments in established formats. By far the most Magic players are casual kitchen table players that play the game to have fun, beating their friends, not the world. EDH as a format will speak more to those players than to the PTQ- and pro tour-grinding players. Believe me, the top16 GP players at my LGS usually cower in fear when someone suggests to play a game of EDH.
Wizards knows all this and has been printing cards for specifically that casual multiplayer format for the past 10 years now. The first Commander (Wizards' legally safe name for exactly the same format as EDH is) Set came out in 2011 and gave us mainstay generals like Animar, Soul of Elements , Ghave, Guru of Spores , Kaalia of the Vast , Zedruu the Greathearted and The Mimeoplasm .
What has changed, is that more and more people use EDH as their main way of playing magic. Wizards is a company, to keep existing, they need to make money. So when Commander took over from Standard and Modern as the most popular to spend your Friday Night Magic, Wizards found a way to accommodate their finances accordingly. By including cards that work better for multiplayer than for competitive constructed formats in every single set, they ensure every set will be a financial success.
So the whole hipster "I liked commander before every set had specific cards for it"-attitude is understandable, but not at all useful in the world we live in. We made this format the most massively enjoyed format around the world. By making it that successful, we changed how the company makes its money. As long as those cards sell, we will get more splashy multiplayer nonsense, Arcane Signet s, Jeweled Lotus , etc. And that is why green is the kingpin of colors in multiplayer/EDH right now. Green is famously the color of ramp. The term "ramp" even originates from the green Rampant Growth . Green is also the color of big monsters. Green is the color of nature, of harmony, the color that lets you do everything you want, while generally not hurting other players' cards.
I'm going to talk in stereotypes for a bit. People think of black and see Murder , Damnation , not a friendly environment for your own stuff. Red will Vandalblast , Blasphemous Act , Jokulhaups your stuff away. White will Wrath of God , Rest in Peace , Swords to Plowshares , while Thalia, Guardian of Thraben makes it harder for you to play your game. Blue will Counterspell and Cyclonic Rift everyone out of the game. Green will just play a bigger beast ( Worldspine Wurm , Craterhoof Behemoth ). Of course I know of all the Beast Within and Krosan Grip removal green has, but you generally will think of green as the least board-controlling color of them all. It will execute its game plan without meddling with yours. Green will let everyone do broken stuff, but will be doing the most stuff itself because of its Abundance of mana and resources. That's the most friendly way to let everyone at the table have the most amount of fun without adjusting your strategy to group hug. No wonder people like playing with and against that.
When people like green, Wizards is inclined to print better green cards, which makes people want to play green more. This is a positive feedback loop that spirals out of control of you're not careful. It's also not specifically a green problem. I think people call it Power Creep. It's part of keeping a dynamic game like Magic interesting. I think a hypothetical future Standard set without any Commander playable cards in it will cause much more of an uproar in the Magic community than Kaldheim ever could. Hate it or love it, but EDH is ingrained in the fabric of magic itself now, and as long as we enjoy EDH, that will not change. I plan to have the most amount of fun with available cards, regardless of color or intended format. Your mileage may vary.
ConstantVigilance on
Most Chaotic Cards
3 years ago
also Vaevictis Asmadi, but its already in your list
triproberts12 on Suggestions for cards with bitchin' …
4 years ago
I'm wondering how viable a commander deck with the tackiest art can be. Vaevictis Asmadi, Lightning Angel, Veldrane of Sengir.
Honestly, I love the old art aesthetic, but if you know of ridiculous art on cards that are playable, but maybe not found at the top of EDHREC, lay them on me.
Zike93 on
4 years ago
If I don’t discuss a card, it’s because that card didn’t feel like a card I’d want to play, or I didn’t think it was a viable commander. If I miss any really good options for my commander or leader, please let me know.
Adun Oakenshield TL?
Gyrus, Waker of Corpses TL???
Xira Arien TL?
Honestly, looking through this list, most of these cards don’t appeal to me. That said, there were a few that could work if I really felt that I needed to go with Jund. First, Gyrus, Waker of Corpses is really interesting to me as a leader. I could use it as my commander, I guess, but it just isn’t that interesting as an effect to me. I want my commander to have more of an impact on the game than being big, and allowing me to reuse creatures for a turn. I like how it allows me to essentially dash in creatures from my graveyard, retriggering any enter the battlefield effects they may have, and another cool feature that Gyrus, Waker of Corpses has is that it doesn’t really lose value when I recast it from the command zone. I’d much rather spend 9 mana on an 9/9 than spend 12 mana on a 6/5 that’s only really worth 6 but I’m looking for a bit more in a commander, especially since I’ll probably be able to shuffle my graveyard into my library multiple times throughout the game. If I were to use a Jund commander, Gyrus, Waker of Corpses is there, but I know that there’s better commanders for me to choose from. As a leader, however, Gyrus, Waker of Corpses seems awesome. For one thing, he kind of breaks the 3 mana limit by having X in his cost, and bringing cards back from the graveyard is much more useful in a format that doesn’t have any Twilight's Call or Aphetto Dredging in it. For now, I think I’m going to move on, but I may come back to him later when I’m searching for my leader.
Kresh the Bloodbraided intrigues me. I can just imagine… Kresh the Bloodbraided is on the board. I also have a Dread Shade , and a Urabrask the Hidden out. My opponents have full boards with 4+ creatures each; the collective power of all my opponents’ creatures is something like 45. It’s my turn. I draw. GASP! In my hand, I now have Plague Wind . I cast it. SUDDENLY, all of my opponents’ creatures are gone except for one Seraph of the Suns (dang) and I have a 44/44 legendary human warrior, my 3/3 shade, and a praetor that makes all my opponents’ creatures enter tapped. Those are the kind of game-changing plays that I like. Kresh the Bloodbraided is definitely an interesting commander, but I really doubt that I’ll be using him, because besides Plague Wind and In Garruk's Wake , there aren’t any cards that really use him to his full potential. Unless there’s some way to destroy a lot of creatures in a short amount of time, he’ll never get very big, because a 10/10 is a threat that most players can kill and will kill before it becomes much bigger than that. So, Kresh the Bloodbraided just won’t be a very good commander 97.9% of the time (I calculated it) and, in the other 2.1% of games, I have the potential to dominate for a few turns until someone kills Kresh the Bloodbraided through literally any means other than damage, because Jund doesn’t have any decent counterspells besides Avoid Fate , and Regenerate isn’t a very good answer to Murder .
I like the sound of Vaevictis Asmadi, the Dire , but without much mill in these colors (besides Altar of the Brood , Waste Not , and Dread Summons , but 3/99 cards isn’t enough to make a mill deck), I don’t see much of a reason to play it. Sure, if one of my opponents plays a Sensei's Divining Top , I can get rid of it and hope that they don’t draw their Paradox Engine , but aside from getting rid of douchey cards I don’t see much of a purpose in playing Vaevictis Asmadi, the Dire .
This concludes my exploration of Jund commanders, and since the only options for a Jund leader, besides Gyrus, Waker of Corpses , are Adun Oakenshield and Xira Arien , I don’t think I’ll be using these colors unless I decide to use Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder as my commander, and Gyrus, Waker of Corpses as my leader.
DwaginFodder on Card creation challenge
5 years ago
Not sure I agree with idea of Chromium having a servant storywise, but sure, why not?
Quicksilver Savant
Artifact Creature - Shapeshifter
: Draw a card.
: Add , , or .
, discard a card: ~ loses all abilities and types, and becomes a 1/1 Human with hexproof that can't be blocked this turn.
3/4
Designed to synergize with Chromium, the Mutable rather than just Chromium.
Make one of the dragons allied with Vaevictis Asmadi during the Elder Dragon War.
Olive_pdx on
Baevictis & Friends
5 years ago
Wihito Here's the decklist that I last played and subsequently retired: Vaevictis build I have since converted it into Sek'kuar brew and I am planning to build an OG Vaevictis Asmadi deck in the very near future.
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