Whenever a player casts a spell, counter it unless its controller pays .
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Nether Void occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.0%
Nether Void Discussion
2 months ago
@Wicker of course! I would definitely toss in
- Nether Void
- Guardian Beast
- The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
- Mana Crypt
- Grim Monolith
- Chains of Mephistopheles
- Mox Diamond
- Sword of Fire and Ice
Those are the most expensive additions I can think of.
2 months ago
In making my Sygg, Tollfolk and Governor-Goddess Ephara Decks, I became very interested in turn-related effects, and that inspire this card, as well as Klothys, God of Destiny, who switches the way usually work, whereas most Gruul cards use green's might to accomplish red's free spirit, She uses Red's fury to express nature's law which green cares about.
Based on (Gerðr)[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ger%C3%B0r] in Kaldheim.
Khyrteh, Goddess of Polar Winter
Legendary Snow Creature - God
Protection from instants
You may cast Khyrteh, Goddess of Polar Winter
Whenever a player casts a spell at a time they couldn't cast a sorcery, that player loses 5 life.
At the beginning of your endstep, if you cast no spells this turn, search your library for a card, then shuffle your library and put that card on top of it and you gain 5 life.
This deck would use Eidolon of Rhetoric, Rule of Law, Curse of Exhaustion, Ethersworn Canonist, Oppression, Uba Mask, Tainted AEther, Desolation, Angelic Arbiter, Nullstone Gargoyle, and Painful Quandary effects to force my opponents to make difficult decisions. Bloodchief Ascension, Strionic Resonator, etc. would also give you more advantage from this ability.
Tax effects, like Thorn of Amethyst, Sphere of Resistance, Trinisphere, Lodestone Golem, Trinisphere, Nether Void, Glowrider, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, Aura of Silence, Spelltithe Enforcer, Chancellor of the Annex and Feroz's Ban
Decree of Pain, Decree of Justice, Astral Drift, Death Pulse, Dirge of Dread, Eternal Dragon, Gempalm Avenger, Gempalm Polluter, Renewed Faith, Stir the Sands, Sunfire Balm and Abandoned Sarcophagus & Archfiend of Ifnir, also Oketra's Attendant, Undead Gladiator, Bloodsoaked Champion, Dread Wanderer, Nether Spirit, Nether Traitor, Reassembling Skeleton, Bloodghast, Angel of Sanctions,Anointer Priest, Sacred Cat, Dark Depths, Thespian's Stage, Shambling Vent, etc. to avoid 'casting' spells.
grand arbiter synergizes well... yeah...
I'm a stax player who got into the deck because of Death and Taxes, especially Mother of Runes, Thalia, Guardian of Thraben (Her printing got me into standard/formal play), Gaddock Teeg, and Iona, Shield of Emeria.
I really just made a card I wish existed...
I'd like to see another Kaldheim God!
3 months ago
PhotogenicParasympathetic zzz please don't @ me so aggressively if you are a scrub.
Recurring Nightmare is a repeat value engine in a format that is almost entirely combo oriented at the competitive side of things. Notably, it requires a creature card in two zones to function. So when you're busy putting 1 creature on the field, 1 in the yard, and then paying 3 for Nightmare, anyone with a brain is just going to send Protean Hulk to the GY and Reanimate + sac/destroy it for a much faster and powerful combo. The card is slow and requires creatures on field and in GY to make it go. It probably wouldn't even make a splash in competitive EDH if it were unbanned, not even as reanimate effect #6 in a reanimate deck.
Selvala, Heart of the Wilds allows for more explosive mana production much faster, and you can use that explosive mana to get access to more cards by playing creature spells. It also serves as an outlet to draw your deck with infinite mana with Temur Sabertooth. Consider if you get a Selvala versus a Rofellos onto the field turn 3. Rofellos is AT MOST making 3 mana (maybe 4 or 5 if you had a fat land tutor or something). With powerful options like Phyrexian Dreadnought available for the Selvala pilot, you can get much more than 3 with the added benefit of also getting repeat draw triggers. Once again, probably wouldn't make a splash in competitive. Selvala is a MUCH stronger commander, even with Rofellos benefit of 1 cheaper to cast.
Erayo is babyshit easy to play around if you can think your way outside of a box, and actually makes comboing easier. Imagine you're a pilot holding your Oracle + Consult combo. Every single person besides the owner of the Erayo gets their first counterspell handled by the Erayo. Burn a weak cantrip and rip the combo, and if you now don't have to worry about 2 of the other 3 players in your pod stopping you. Burn a weak cantrip then remove the Erayo if you aren't ready to combo. Erayo may gain a spot in some jank esper stax control build, but will not see competitive play in tier 1 decks if unbanned. Any player foolish enough to run Erayo as the commander will not have a competitive viable deck.
If you take the temperature of the competitive community, you will find the PE ban to be poorly received. At to cast, and presumably another to start the engine, you're not very mana efficient for a wincon. It also requires board presence in rocks or dorks which can be disassembled prior to or in response to the PE cast. Finally, you also need an outlet for all that mana, requiring yet ANOTHER card, either on field or in hand to utilize the mana/untaps. PE makes the competitive meta much less boring BECAUSE it allows certain decks to be competitive viable that otherwise can't hack it. Specifically, Hannah Dralnu Sisay and Arcum all move from being practically unplayable to at least fringe decks.
For the cards that I consider boring, notice how being boring isn't the only context used to evaluate the cards. Reread my comment. I pretty thoroughly explain reasoning for each card I would ban based on power level. Me subjectively thinking the combo is boring is an anecdote, not the meat of the argument. I consider all kinds of other cards in the format boring to see, but don't wish for their bans. For example, I find Dramatic Scepter to be another boring choice for winning, but have no wish for the combo to be banned, as the format is more interesting for its inclusion.
You really need to think in context of cards on board and resources available. When you compare the necessary components for Flash Protean Hulk to win and how resource intensive it is on your mana, compared to Paradox Engine, you will see that one of these is significantly stronger than the other. When you require permanents on board to win, and heavier mana investment, your win is going to be slower and easier to stop. When your win revolves around getting 2 cards in hand and spending 2 mana, or getting 2 cards in hand and spending 3 mana (Thassa's Oracle + Demonic Consultation), that is MUCH harder to stop than when you let someone drop 3 mana rocks and their untap outlet then play PE then cast ANOTHER spell. Once you are able to evaluate combos and winning lines with this framework, the quality of your posts and decks is going to rise quickly.
While you claim I have clearly never played against these cards, its much easier to claim you have clearly never played a competitive pod in your life. Rofellos is a blip on the mono green radar and his non-bo with Gaea's Cradle and other non-basics makes him iffy at best, especially compared to Selvala and Marwen. Recurring Nightmare is too slow. Erayo is baby stax that takes time to activate and almost every deck that could possibly want to slot Erayo is going to slot Nether Void instead. Flash Hulk is a big degenerate combo that is hard to interact with, just as I said, and so is Fish Consult. Educate yourself on competitive before you feel the need to speak freely on it.
4 months ago
Your very top tier auto-include for lists is going to look like
- Force of Will "free"
- Pact of Negation "free"
- Swan Song cheap to cast and wide in restrictions
- Mana Drain color heavy but ramps the following turn
- Mental Misstep "free"
- Delay not color heavy and hits any spell, delaying for 3 turns is the same as solving it in very fast competitive EDH
Your situational includes are going to look like
- Force of Negation This can't protect your own combos, so it isn't wanted in every list. This is ran in QUITE A FEW lists though, always worth a consider.
- Counterspell Usually seen in mono or dual color decks as the cost can be hard in some 4 or 5 color shells
- Dispel Sometimes cut for a more general counter
- Muddle the Mixture Limited in scope and color heavy but this is more often slotted as a hard-to-counter tutor with a counterspell as icing on the top
- Narset's Reversal this card is pretty nice. While it does see a lot of play, it definitely isn't an autoinclude yet by any means.
- Spell Pierce Before you mock this card, consider how well it catches ultra fast mana rocks and tutors. Noncreature is very wide, and it stops Sol Ring Mana Crypt Mox Diamond Mox Opal Chrome Mox Mox Amber Mana Vault Vampiric Tutor Imperial Seal Mystical Tutor Worldly Tutor Gamble Dark Ritual and SO MUCH MORE. Even for a tempo card, you're still going to catch weird stuff like someone's Rhystic Study because they tapped out to pay for it. Its very strong against blistering fast combo decks, which is why it sees competitive play.
Other blue stuff is usually just too expensive. Paying over 2 mana for a counterspell just doesn't cut it when there are so many threats for so cheap. Don't pay more than 2 for a counterspell unless it does something wild on top. Counterspells with fewer restrictions on what it can counter are going to be better.
This is where it gets saucy boys
- Red Elemental Blast Pyroblast are VERY good. In a pod, there is almost definitely blue at the table. Every single red deck can slot these for commander without fear. Do note that REB works against any spell that includes blue (multicolor), while pyro only works against spells that are ONLY blue (monocolor).
- Fork Reverberate (Twincast) these allow you to copy a counterspell to create a counterspell. More access for red to counterspells. They also conveniently work very well against tutors, ramp, big draw spells, and extra turn spells.
- Guttural Response Weird hybrid color and somewhat restricted but still a good include in most RG decks.
- Burnout a bit worse then the elemental blasts as it costs 2 mana and it is limited. The cantrip is nice though
- Mana Tithe not that good in EDH but give it a whirl I guess
- Lapse of Certainty costing 3 hurts, but this is more a tempo card than anything.
- Dash Hopes Don't play this card in EDH lol
- Withering Boon on the chunkier end at 2 CMC, but in a color that doesn't get much of this. The 3 life and the restriction hurt, but definitely EDH playable. Every deck runs a commander, 99% of which are creatures
- Imp's Mischief can counter a spell by having it target Mischief, as can Misdirection Shunt Swerve and Ricochet Trap.
- Veil of Summer 1 mana green Cryptic Command
- Autumn's Veil Counterspell + silence against UB
- Bind I bet you didn't even know this card existed. Cantrips. GOOD IN THE YISAN MIRROR MATCH?
- Avoid Fate Weird protection oriented counterspell
- Nether Void Mostly ran in stax builds, brutal lockout card
- Planar Chaos One of my new favorite cards. Brutal with recursion like Hall of Heliod's Generosity. Play when you're ahead
- Deathgrip Lifeforce These are based if you have any method of color shifting. Realistically, you could run Lifeforce in Momir Hackball. These cards can cause scoops on casual tables lol.
- Vexing Shusher can render counterspells useless. Similarly, Dosan the Falling Leaf Grand Abolisher Prowling Serpopard Gaea's Herald can all protect against counterspells. Far more marginal but still worthwhile are Hall of Gemstone and Ritual of Subdual for turning off counterspells for opponents.
6 months ago
The matter of stax is an interesting one for Yuriko. Much like a blood pod deck, she is highly customizable to be tailored to your meta. If wanting to win boosters at your local game store is what you want, look no further. You can build Yuriko in such a way you can crush that store specifically.
She has her "core" stax pieces, which I would define as the stax pieces Yuriko resonates too well with to not include (and said stax pieces largely don't affect the 99) and then you have those flex slots you can fill with more meta selections. Some of these flex stax pieces are borderline core and some of them are on the brink of unplayable no matter what your archetype is.
is certainly a card we cannot afford to run. Whilst Yuriko is very blue in nature and is mainly colored mana (barely any colorless sources), it is still a whopping . This is way too demanding and would essentially come out turn 6 or so. The effect itself is also subpar, as yuriko is almost always on the field, meaning a creature has to be strictly not or .
these days has just become too slow. In a turn 3 format like this, we really need to be answering game winning combos or dishing them out ourselves, and land equilibrium unfortunately provides neither in here.
is definitely playable in Yuriko, as both Yuriko and all other Ninjutsu avoid having the pay the . That being said though, I think the fact it costs 4 mana to bring out is highly problematic, as it doesn't do enough for it's CMC. This particular list, 5 mana is "end the game", so 4 mana should be borderline doing that, ala
Sakashima the Impostor
we unfortunately dont break parity on enough to break, but even in cEDH in general it is barely playable because of it's hefty casting cost.
Oppression is most definitely playable in Yuriko, and I actually highly recommend it in lists that run graveyard effects like Smoke Shroud or Wonder for example that want to be more staxier, just dont run it in lists with doomsday or turns as it can make things... difficult. Its borderline a staple in the stax-graveyard builds. You're definitely right in that the are many outer-rim flex slots for stax and some of them can be some really juicy options to absolutely cripple a specific meta and moving forward, keeping an eye on these options is important. Yuriko and the 99 in general are just so unaffected by stax as a whole, its easily the main reason why anyone would choose to take her into a cEDH meta.
6 months ago
I'm really loving this list, and I'm adapting my existing Yuriko to be similar.
What's your opinion on other stax effects that Yuriko can effectively bypass? Depending on meta I see some room for customization here. To me it looks like Invoke Prejudice , Land Equilibrium , Nether Void , The Abyss , Oppression , and others could be useful based on meta calls, and Yuriko should remain largely unaffected.
8 months ago
I want to give this list a shot but don't have and cannot currently obtain a Nether Void , Chains of Mephistopheles , and The Abyss . Barring proxies, do you have recommendations for budget-friendly alternatives? Are Possessed Portal , Pox , and Painful Quandary decent replacements?