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At the beginning of each player's upkeep, destroy target nonartifact creature that player controls of his or her choice. It can't be regenerated.
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The Abyss Discussion
3 weeks ago
Hey Winter, thanks for the comments. I agree the difference comes down to a play style, and more than likely we experience different metas. For instance, lots of people at my local LGS started slotting Aura Shards because of Augustin, so under no circumstance could I afford to drop Torpor Orb (I've had games where Aura Shards showed up on the table 3 times for Christ's sake... I can't one-shot that away). Also, as Aura Shards decks ALWAYS bring dorks (there's a birds or elves hitting t1 in the overwhelming majority of my games), this is why a few months prior I highly valued Isolate , whereas you may have had more of a lukewarm reception to it.
Question for you.... I highly value my Leyline of Anticipation and use it to often circumvent the exact dilemma you are presenting (Do I play my artifact piece and potentially let something through that I could potentially answer, or do I hold flash open, hold my counterspell and my stax piece, and wait to see if I'm either end-stepping a piece or counterspelling). Have you tried running this card in your Augustin? It's to the point where I'm about to make room for Idyllic Tutor just because of Blind Obedience Land Equilibrium Rest in Peace or even a cheeky Copy Artifact .
Narset- I hear every point you make and yes, a 2 costed PW is absolutely bonkers. It felt absolutely lovely when I rebounded Long-Term Plans , dropped Windfall and had a top online, but 1 Rebound is going to kill your ultimate plan, and chances are in my deck her +1 is more likely to hit a non-applicable card than a applicable one. She served me well for 6 months though, don't blame you slotting her.
Relative to high-end cards and cost, I agree to an extent. If I had no budget restrictions, my deck would be Sen Triplets with The Abyss , Nether Void ,black tutor and ritual package, and 80% of the value on your list more than likely. As it stands now, I don't feel I'm at a critical disadvantage if my opponent has a Timetwister and I don't, but yes, there probably will be a game or two where it was relevant.
You know how it goes with our man.... you slot him, you're playing Archenemy the remainder of your EDH days, and counterbuilds are going to start showing up if you play your LGS long enough. I had to deslot my Consecrated Sphinx because it was either win-more or a 6 mana dump that was usually answered with 1-2 within 1 player turn... but in some metas this card is completely broken IMO.
2 months ago
Legendary_penguin_of_death is speaking with a lot of legendary, peguiny, deadly truth right there, I highly doubt that Teferi will be banned in Standard, however I wouldn't even be that surprised in modern if there was a banning, but much, much further down the line, only if control becomes more powerful, but that is just a guess into The Abyss.
2 months ago
Honestly a 99 card colorless, commanderless stax-combo list is able to contend with most every single High Powered deck on this list, so I am unconvinced that being able to compete with any other High Power tiered commander is something that any commander is unable to do.
2 months ago
SynergyBuild I apologize for the hyperbole. I should have said that any general that provides you with resources is able be a stax deck. Any commander that has card advantege is able to break parity in a mass discard deck. Any commander that ramps is able to break parity in a mass tax deck. Any commander that has a free triggered or activated ability like Gyrus, Waker of Corpses or Krenko, Mob Bosscan break parity in a scenario where cards are unable to be cast. Any noncreature commander can break parity with The Abyss, Death Cloud or other mass creature removal. Any mono black general can break parity with Contamination and Infernal Darkness. Literally, not every commander can helm stax but a whole bunch can.
I'm not arguing that Liy and Erebos aren't able to break parity. I'm just unconvinced that they are able to compete evenly with other cards in the High Power tier.
2 months ago
If you want to tune that list further, I would trim some of the ramp creatures for better mana rocks, tune the mana base for fetches and duals, and then pick up a few more tutors like Gamble and Demonic Tutor. Toxic Deluge, The Abyss, Nether Void, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, and other Stax pieces could also be viable if you wanted to push it in that direction. All of my stuff is in my CEDH deck so that's why it's not in here.
2 months ago
Nath is a popular discard-stax commander, that uses Necrogen Mists, Sadistic Hypnotist, Oppression, and Bottomless Pit along with a lot of general value cards like Root Maze, Manglehorn, Chains of Mephistopheles, Nether Void, The Abyss, Magus of the Abyss, green ramp like Birds of Paradise along with colorless rocks to pump its commander and other colorless stax options out onto the field.
Otherwise, the deck runs a normal Golgari-Stax deck, running black-tutors to fetch the colorless silver bullets like Sphere of Resistance against non-Prossh Food Chain lists like Tazri and green to make enough mana to still win.
Other notable cards sometimes run in this strategy are Mind Slash, Cryptolith Rite, Chord of Calling (with tokens it ends up decently), fast mana to cast Nath like Mana Vault, Lotus Petal, Grim Monolith, etc.
Ishkanah is the best golgari Food Chain list in the format, with Demonic Tutor, Grim Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Imperial Seal, etc. to fetch the Chain, and to fetch Eternal Scourge there are a ton of green and black tutors.
With Delirium so easy to get between fetchlands, instants, sorceries, and Lotus Petals, Commune with the Gods and other self-mill cards milling over creatures and artifacts, etc. You can reasonably make infinite spiders with Food Chain, and if you can pay Ishkanah's cost you win.
3 months ago
OscarGoldman thanks for checking out the deck. I've been out of the game for a couple of months and haven't had time to update the deck, however, I got a few weeks of games coming up so I'll need to make some modifications ;).
You hit the nail on the head about Guardian Beast - I've added him as a flex spot due to my general artifact count but I've never seen to get good value of him. At this point I'm probably going to cut him again for something like The Abyss. I've been meaning to add Meteor Golem as this is a mandatory card for Chainer, cuttingGuardian Beast is a clear choice at this point.
I used to run Mikeus in the past but without the Nooze/Trisk/Ballista/Devourer combo. This was just a personal choice, mike and trike combo was semi disliked by our playgroup in the past, however, those restrictions are no longer in place, so it may be right to rebuild it that way. I would probably replace the current aristocrat package for mike and trike and trim some fat for more tutor(s) or board control. I like the direction and it may be the right way to go.
In regards to null rods and such, yea unfortunately there's not much we can do here outside of switching our win condition for that game/round. If you were setting up an aristocrat win then it would probably need to switch to a exsanguinate/torment of hailfire/living death finish. Gate to Phyrexia seems ok but you'd need a complete rework to include a token package, which I feel will be better suited in something like Xiaohou Dun Control deck.
Sorry for my post being all over - wrote this quickly at work. I'd be interested to discuss this further thought! Look towards a rework of the deck soon.
3 months ago
@cdkime: Actually, the Unaligned "Alignment" Could link me to some other characters of note outside of the Hasbro-Multiverse (Transformers, My Little Pony, Magic: the Gathering, D&D, etc.). Thanks, sir. I'll have to do my "further" research another time; I have Tina (E's Laf++ Fame)-Sized Fat to shred after the last things worth adding to my Boros Deck currently.
I'm sure most are trash, but I'd like an opinion anyway...
For Colorless Mana of a source I'm familiar with: Semnia Eubaints of the 2D Doujin Fighter Wonderful World (SPOILER: It's actually pretty cruel...) 2 Years prior to the main story has amnesia, and was abducted to be of some kind of Experiment involving Demon Magic, but after the 2 yr. timeskip to such events, she is acting as a weapon for an unknown organization, not being able to have a will of her own, as well as being Sleepy, & Having Lethargic conditions. Hilariously enough, her lethargic mind, her desperation to go home (According to some of her Winquotes), the thought of a Beastkin defeated by her actually made her think the World would end soon, & the fact she can use the Abyss (Not the same as The Abyss from M:tG.), a mysterious Space that kills upon entry, Makes me question Semnia's Alignment for the most part. She's neither Good, or Evil, but based on what is described, she's not Unaligned either, despite fighting as a Weapon, & not an organism...
But I digress. I'll leave it to others to decide... Thanks again, cdkime.