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Put two 1/1 colorless Sliver creature tokens onto the battlefield.
Hive Stirrings Discussion
2 months ago
Hey Nephs, just finally got a look at both First Sliver's Chosen and Lancer Sliver. You were spot on with Lancer's ability, but what piqued my interest was Chosen. Exalted among Slivers? With the right build that sounds like it could definitely get out of hand. I'd imagine Brood Sliver and maybe Hive Stirrings could be part of the strategy to quickly increase the amount of Exalted instances on the board. I haven't heard anything about what will be full art though. Do you have a link?
Slayroth, interesting card Carpet of Flowers . I have honestly never heard of it before...but to use it in EDH seems risky - because you have no idea what decks your opponents are bringing to the table. Blue is a popular color though, so there will be at least one player there packing some form of Blue control. I'd recommend combining Carpet of Flowers with something like Stormtide Leviathan or Quicksilver Fountain to really take advantage of it. I think Carpet of Flowers probably belongs in a deck that has Islandwalk and all matters Island as part of it's central theme. There's not enough room in something that is Sliver focused.
7 months ago
xaarvaxus Thanks for the feedback! I know what I'm asking for is a bit restricting, but like you said, it's a fun way to see what I can do just using what I have.
Finally, I removed Hunter's Prowess because bumping my whole team is a lot better than just bumping Shanna.
7 months ago
Call of the Conclave only makes one token and you don't have a ton of populate effects to crank out 3/3's so I think you'd be better off using something in your maybeboard that makes multiple tokens, ie: Hive Stirrings. I know I'd try to find space for Obsessive Skinner as you shouldn't have a problem getting delirium and getting some tokens above the 1/1 or 2/2 range would be nice. You have a pretty cheap CMC deck so you could probably cut Star Compass. Rootborn Defenses seems to fit in well as a defensive card that incidentally makes a token. Maybe cut one of the auras or giant growth style cards.
Overwhelming Stampede seems like it should be an auto-include here, probably in place of one of the giant growth type cards.
Its kind of constraining to only have the maybeboard to work from as most of the suggestions I'd normally make aren't on there [such as March of the Multitudes, etc] but it is an interesting exercise on how creative you can be from a limited cardpool.
8 months ago
Slivers is my pet archtype so appologies if I go a little overboard with this comment
also one card thats really win more with slivers is Kindred Summons
On the topic of Artifacts they can be really useful in a budget 5 colour deck as they work with whatever colours you happend to have out. Most of your artifacts are good, I'd just cut Hedron Archive and Tamiyo's Journal, the former because you really need coloured mana and the latter because its a really slow tutor and not very good source of cards. I'd recommend adding Commander's Sphere, Fellwar Stone, and Heartstone (Heartstone is especially good). If you find more space in the deck I'd also recommend signets for your major colours as they can convert 1 colour that you dont need to 2 that you do.
All in all I really love the deck and it fills me with nostalga for my old Sliver deck (it was my first ever commander deck). Hope some of this helps and I'd be happy to talk about what I've said more (hope this isn't way to much)
11 months ago
I assume, at least at the moment, that this is a budget build. So my suggestions will attempt to be budget friendly.
Sliver Hive and Hive Stirrings would likely be welcome additions to your list here. Path of Ancestry is also really good for tribal decks that go creature heavy. Additionally, Sylvan Scrying and Expedition Map are both very good mana-fixers in terms of land-fetching (also, on a budget, cards like Terramorphic Expanse, Evolving Wilds, and Crop Rotation, especially for a five color deck, can be very good). Stoneforge Masterwork, Obelisk of Urd, and Door of Destinies are also all relatively budget friendly tribal cards.
There are obviously some more expensive cards that you could dip into, such as Cavern of Souls (and similar non-budget lands), Urza's Incubator, Herald's Horn, Coat of Arms, Training Grounds (if you decided to have Sliver Overlord for your commander), not to mention other good sliver creatures such as Galerider Sliver, Sliver Overlord, Sliver Queen, and Sliver Legion.
This is far from a complete list. That being said, there are a ton of different Sliver tribal EDH decks out there -- you should check them out and see what kinds of cards, interactions, and combos they run. Good luck!
11 months ago
aight Coco Dwarf i think $198 dollars is much. focus on lower cost like Predatory Sliver and you don't need the Sliver Hive. I think if you want tokens get Hive Stirrings, and Diffusion Sliver to protect other slivers, also you want if you want your guys untapped get 2-3 Always Watching it will help a lot also get stuff to bring your slivers back like Creeping Renaissance.
1 year ago
I feel like I should add that there is actually a circumstance under which your opponent could make successful use of a tapping spell here.
Lets say your opponent has a Downpour in hand, and untapped lands necessary to cast it. You have Gemhide Sliver or Manaweft Sliver and two other miscellaneous Slivers in play (maybe Metallic Slivers, or tokens from Hive Stirrings). Now, you want to tap these three slivers to cast say Opaline Sliver. During your Upkeep, before you draw your card for the turn, if you choose to do nothing, thereby passing priority to your opponent, your opponent can cast Downpour targeting your three slivers. Now, you can still tap them for mana in response, but that mana will disappear the moment your upkeep step ends, so unless you have an Instant in your hand you can cast, that mana is useless to you. With no instants in your hand, your only choices are to tap you slivers for worthless mana that immediately disappears, or let Downpour resolve and tap your slivers anyways. The result is the same, your slivers are tapped, and you can't make use of them.
1 year ago
I love slivers more than most players. It seems like your deck has a lot of slivers in it, which is good, but I feel like in some cases you need an reason to put it in besides the fact that it's a sliver. I run a bizarre kind of sliver token deck though, so in mine, I only run 17 or so slivers, so take everything I have to say with a grain of salt.
Slivers that aren't that great:
- Blade Sliver
- Dementia Sliver (I guess if you like it, you should keep it)
- Essence Sliver (this one sounds nuts, but I run Aura Shards over this, simply because it's strictly better. There is the fact that you can't tutor for it with overlord, but for me, I have the problem that essence sliver doesn't have "may," so sometimes I end up killing a lot of my own stuff. Still there's an argument to be made for it.
- Screeching Sliver (I just don't know why this card is in here. It seems like a pretty non-synergistic effect. I also feel like even if you had a lot of slivers, it would take you an ass ton of time to mill someone out by tapping them all in EDH)
Other things to take out:
- Staff of Nin (I like this card in mono-red, but that's about it. since you have access to all the colors, there's a huge amount of cards you have access to that are just better than this card. Find something that works well with your deck. I like Fecundity, but I'm in tokens. There's a lot in blue that are great. Mind Unbound will draw you a lot of cards (a lot more than the staff). and has the same CMC, but it does have double blue. I even like Phyrexian Arena in this deck.
- Hive Stirrings. (I'm in sliver tokens and I don't really love this card. Just a lot of other effects i'd rather have for 3 mana. Maybe a Mirror Entity or an Phyrexian Arena)
- Venser's Journal (I love this card, but not in this deck. I just feel like there's not enough card draw, hand size shenannagins to make use of this card. If you added like 10 more card draw spells then sure, good pick)
Stuffs to Add:
(Note: given the sliver legion and queen, it seemed like money wasn't much of an issue, so some of these picks aren't exactly budget)
- Brood Sliver (Where is this guy? seriously, he's great.)
- Cryptolith Rite (take out Springleaf Drum. Cryptolith Rite costs one more and is strictly better.)
- Amoeboid Changeling (I think I know what you're going for with Unnatural Selection. If you want though, you can even tutor it out, since amoeboid is a changeling and therefore a sliver. I only do this when I feel like I absolutely have to or I feel like being a dick. depends on your meta, but I try not to overuse this ability too much.)
- Crypt Sliver (just...yes....)
- Crystalline Sliver (this has a downside if you need to target your stuff, so don't drop it unless you need to. I feel like this is a better slot in than blade sliver or some of the lower end pumps. If you need to, only play him when you already have a sliver with a sac outlet on the battlefield)
- Mesmeric Sliver (depending on how many slivers you can drop, this gets pretty nuts. just always make opponents draw land.)
- Shifting Sliver (THIS MUST GO IN. Like seriously though. just drop this and win.)
- Coat of Arms (Most EDH decks only have access to one of these effects, but yours can have access to two with sliver legion in the deck too. I know this pumps everyone's tribal, so just have more of your tribe and you're good. Also you only have to drop this when you want to swing for lethal. Might be a good slot instead of Venser's Journal or something.)
Some nuts busted cards:
- Cryptic Gateway. (this is nuts. I love it)
- Cauldron of Souls (this is a super underrated card. When I go in and retune my deck, this is going in)
- Wild Pair (since you like cryptic gateway, you might like this card. didn't make it into mine, because i'm pretty low on slivers, but slivers always have the same power and toughness, making it really easy to use this card.)
Great deck. I'd love to hear what you think of my sliver tokens deck. I haven't tweaked it in a while so there's some obvious slot in's from Ixalan at least that need to go in. http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/make-tokens-great-again/
Thanks for sharing :)
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