Creature — Elemental
Whenever Spawnwrithe deals combat damage to a player, put a token into play that's a copy of Spawnwrithe.
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|Duel Decks: Jace vs. Vraska (DDM)||Rare|
|MTG: Commander (CMD)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Spawnwrithe occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.0%
14 hours ago
Tzefick: The problem is that Defense of the Heart is a mid-game card. So the idea of having a creature that without ramp can't do its thing until turn 8 seems very slow, as opposed to DotH which can potentially deploy some devistating creatures on turn 5.
While I can see your comparision to Spawnwrithe here, it's not in the same boat. the problem that Spawnwrithe suffers from is that it nees to keep turning sideways to do its thing. You might connect once with it being unblocked but that's all you'll get away with. This card however only needs to connect once to do its thing, which is a fundamental difference.
I think at the end of the day though, MindAblaze hits the nail on the head. Having a creature version of the card based around YOU attacking has already failed the design brief.
The suggested card they proposed feels much more along the lines of the current design. You could create something like:
Magus of the Heart -
Creature - Human Wizard
, , Sacrifice Magus of the Heart: Search your library for up to two creatures and put them into play, then shuffle your library. Activate this ability only if a player controls three or more creatures and only in your upkeep.
Something like that might be more the go.
1 day ago
enpc I understand that was your intention, but that seems to be from a standpoint that you want to lower the CMC. My point is that the creature itself would be more whole, if you kept it expensive but viable by itself without necessarily needing additional help, unlike a 2/2 trampler. It reminds me of a similar issue with Spawnwrithe. Spawnwrithe is often too small, even in Commander pre-cons to actually be able to function and do what it wants to do. Then it just ends up being irrelevant all together.
If you consider the Magus creatures, they are often costed and stat'ed to match what they intend to do and how their counterpart functions. Magus of the Bazaar is low stat'ed and cheap to cast because its main function is a creature-version of the Bazaar of Baghdad, so it doesn't need high stats as it needs to be used early and readily. It's not there for combat, it's there for the active ability. You want it early.
In difference to Magus of the Coffers who mirrors Cabal Coffers. Here the Magus is higher stat'ed and more costly, despite the counterpart is also a land. The Cabal Coffers is usually used as a late-game tool to explode some mana advantage, and the creature reflects that.
Magus of the Arena is also a very expensive creature, that is better stat'ed to better go with the fight-ability of it's counterpart Arena. If the Magus was weak, it would need help to function - on top of being a creature, whereas Arena is a land with no further inherent cost and is much better protected than a creature.
Magus of the Mind has the CMC of its counterpart Mind's Desire but also a more fair stat'ed body with a cheap activation to get the actual spell - in many ways it is better positioned to function than Mind's Desire itself, as it is very mana cheap the turn you break it, which opens up mana to cast spells to grant its active good value. The downside is that it is a creature and has summoning sickness, so opponents can deal with it or plan accordingly.
Magus of the Balance is the most different as it carries the CMC of its counterpart Balance, but with a heavier activation cost on the ability. And all the Maguses who mirrors a sorcery can still go off at instant speed, despite WotC's ability to limit it, and without adding to the cost of the active ability compared to the cost of the original counterpart. Granted Balance is also banned in all formats and restricted in Vintage, so it speaks more volume to the wrong costing and effect of Balance than the Magus itself being an outlier.
4 months ago
@imSandstorm: I think those cards aren't good enough. There isn't enough room for random beaters or creature control; although these are good options (and, although there are plenty of other options). Compare Robber of the Rich to Grenzo, Havoc Raiser . Grenzo frequently doesn't do enough or what you need it to, and he's generally exiling 2-4 cards a turn! Irencrag pyromancer is too hard to trigger, and even if it was doing a lightning bolt a turn, I don't think that's enough. Although I do like Inferno Titan in my meta lately - it's been very strong against tymna and thrasios - but inferno titan is basically a guaranteed lightning bolt a turn + the turn it ETBs + 6 or more damage plus a mana. Questing Beast is basically just a beater; I'm not sure it's doing anything more than that. I think the best beater that doesn't do anything else is probably Spawnwrithe but I mostly think there isn't a place for a card like that anymore. Although if you ever get a turn-1 spawnwrithe, it's a pretty entertaining play!
5 months ago
Maybe archfiend of despair? Or giant adephage? You can trade adephage for Spawnwrithe . It also does the same thing as adephage.
6 months ago
Have you thought about Hardened Scales ? It seems like a better way to consistently add more counters to your creatures if that’s what you’re going for, and in the same vein Pir, Imaginative Rascal helps. Personally I’d put them in over one-shot effects like Hunting Triad . Also, Contagion Engine and Doubling Season are both very good value engines here, with the engine providing the added bonus of eventually removing opponent’s creatures. On top of that you can proliferate experience counters, so things like Karn's Bastion could be very potent. Personally, I think that Spawnwrithe , Whirler Rogue and Patagia Viper could easily be replaced by these effects. Also, have you considered running Chain of Vapor instead of or alongside Sidisi's Faithful ? It gives you the added benefit of permanent bounce and possibly putting your opponents a land behind if they choose to retaliate. Finally, Birds of Paradise could definitely replace Arbor Elf because you aren’t running things like Utopia Sprawl , so the color fixing and flying creature far outweigh the elf creature type for Priest of Titania . Sorry for the long message, just got a lot of ideas all at once. Good luck in the league, I’m playing Kami of the Crescent Moon as of now!
6 months ago
Don't forget about Cold-Eyed Selkie . Draw 7 is backbreaking and islandwalk is actually fairly relevant. Also my new finds have been anything that copies itself on attack or combat damage like Spawnwrithe or Nacatl War-Pride or myriad creatures.
I think Isareth the Awakener is also a cute way to get back a critical creature from the yard in the combat step.
Kruphix, God of Horizons also does work since this deck will be pretty mana hungry once volrath is on the field and it grants additional protection for volrath.
6 months ago
Hi, I hope that at least some of what i'm going to put here will be useful, and even if you don't use any of my advice then maybe you will be able to see where I am coming from and use the logic to find your own improvements :)
As the previous commenter has suggested the amount of ramp spells that put lands in to play in your deck is a bit to low for a ramp deck especially one that has subthemes of landfall. Typical commander deck building suggestions say that you should have 10 pieces of ramp to tide you into the midgame. This goes for any deck, not just ramp decks. In ramp decks you will want more. At my count you have 12 ramp cards that are reusable (ie, aren't the one shot sacrifice elemntals) this will want to be more really, with a focus on them being ones that put lands in to play. Another of note, is that cards like Zendikar Resurgent don't really count as a ramp slot, as by the time we can cast it, we have a lot of mana already. 'Ramp' cards are ones that you want to see in your opening hand to get you into your game plan faster.
For this reason I would look into replacing some of the creature based ramp and some other low impact cards with this ramp that will get us executing our main game plan faster and better.
These can all be easily replaced with land based ramp spells as they don't get you any further ahead on mana than 1 land, or are one shot abilities when we want to be dropping big things multiple times over multiple turns.
Smokebraider Is unique because it produces 2 mana for only 2 investment, but only if we focus in on elemtals so can be left on a short list to be evaluated. We'll list other potential cuts later when looking at more over all deck evaluation.
The previous commentor has provided a list which at first glance seems to be comprehensive enough to provide some ideas for what to add.
More conventional commander wisdom suggests that you have at least 5 ways to directly interact with your opponents game plan. I personally nearly always play more than this, but you should have at least 5. This direct interaction is preferred to be the targetted simgle response cards that can remove threats in any shape or form. Of note, this removal count is seperate from the count of mass removal. At my count you have Song of the Dryads , the down tick of Domri, Anarch of Bolas and Ingot Chewer as easily accessable removal. Things like the trigger from your commander or things like Magmatic Force are more incedental as you can't rely on them doing what you want when you need it.
Cards that could be added in this slot are many. But it is a good idea to have as many as you can being generic answers to anything, but also you need to make sure that they are ones you can realistically weave into your game plan instead of leaving up those answers at all times. This is mostly a balncing act that is where fine tuning comes in from playing the deck. But potential recommendations for all purpose would be Beast Within and Chaos Warp . After that they become more specific but can be cheaper in mana,
- Nature's Claim
- Domri's Ambush
- Force of Vigor
- Krosan Grip
- Hull Breach
- Broken Bond
- Reclamation Sage
This may seem counterintuitive, seen as you are planning on being the big creature deck that wants the board presence. But sometimes the opponents boards just need answering (Not to mention that you might end up getting a lot of elemental death triggers from Omnath). As such having 2 or 3 creature wraths might be worth trying. And having 2 or 3 artifact and enchantment wraths will be good to have access to aswell. Something you already have so I assume you already know.
Creature wraths to consider in green red include
- Blasphemous Act
- Chandra's Ignition
- Chain Reaction
- Savage Twister - This one is representative of X cost ones that are interesting to try as it gives you the oppertunity of clearing out small creatures while keeping yours alive if you would prefer. Another one that can also be used to finish of players is Rolling Earthquake
You already have the cards for mass removing artifacts and enchantments so I won't bother listing any more.
One of the most common recommendations I have to make to people about their deck is to up the amount of card draw or selection in their decks. There is no point in having sweet cards and synergies in here if we never get to see them! Normally I recommend having 10 ways of drawing cards in your deck, with some of them being repeating and some being one shot. At my count you currently have 7 (Or 8 if you count Praetor's Counsel which can do effectively a similar job), so you are nearly there but I would recommend adding a couple mr just to smooth out the deck running.
- Harmonize is the most obvious recommendation withit being notorious for its colour pie break with not haveing a restriction based on creatures or similar.
- Horn of Greed is universal, but we should be getting more value from it.
- Greater Good is amazing if you keep having big creatures to sacrifice. Thankfully due to our commander triggers, we do!
- Chandra, Flamecaller can cover multiple bases of what we need, it can be counted as both a wrath AND a card draw engine :) IT also even makes elementals (of note, they get exiled at end step instead of dieing so you won't normally get Omnath triggers. Sacrificing them to Greater Good though....... )
- Rishkar's Expertise can be great card draw as you don't need to take a full turn off to refuel, you still get to cast something that costs less, which could be that removal spell or something you needed!
These overview sections are recommendations for generic cards that could go in. From here on, we will be looking at more specific card options, and possible cuts from the existing deck
Now, again as the previous commentor mentioned, there are multiple ways you can take an Omnath deck. My take on them being
- RG Big thing Ramp. No specific synergies in mind except for incidental ones like, I need land to cast my big spells, and this card cards about land. Not a bad deck by any means, just less commander or theme focused.
- Elemental Tribal Ramp. This seems to be closer to what you are currently going for. Similar to the RG ramp deck, just with tribal synergies from elementals
- Landfall / Lands Matter. Here we are focusing on many landfall triggers, and keep cycling our lands round and round to get them. This deck will likke having access to things like Crucible of Worlds and many effects like Exploration
Here, i will suggest some cards for each of them and maybe later on if you want we could look more into one or a mix of these strategies.
- Ruric Thar, the Unbowed This card is very very powerful. Expecially as the decks around you get more and more powerful and wanting to do more combo and storm bsaed strategies.
- Gruul Ragebeast A good way of keeping the board under control when you play your 'large and incharge' creatures
- Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger We have mana, they don't. Enough said really. Just beware that with this creature, sometines the adage If you can't remove the problem, remove the player can be applied to just killing you.
Other than ones recommended here, perhaps a good idea would be to use Gatherer or mtg.wtf to find elementals in your colour. Or cards which reference elementals in your colours, the example in wtf would be this
- Chandra, Acolyte of Flame can rebuy your ramp spells and can make elementals that will die to trigger Omnath.
- Chandra, Awakened Inferno A wrath that doesn't kill elementals and can provide a reasonable clock on the game with her uptick.
- Omnath, Locus of Mana Store mana for a rainy day. Or for hitting your opponents upside the head with it. Both work.
- Parallel Lives Double the tokens, double the elementals, double the damage. We like.
- Tornado Elemental clears out any things like Dragons, or Flying Slivers or similar. Also good at picking of planeswalkers as it has sudo unblockable.
- Liege of the Tangle we can go REALLY all in on making all our lands elementals and meaning that if someone wraths us we can basically kill everyone from Omnath triggers
- Budoka Gardener Ramp early game, big guys late game.
This deck idea might have elements that are closer to a combo deck than the others, but will still mostly be a midrange deck.
- Perilous Forays With your commander out this card is bonkers. But if we are making other elemental tokens too then we can truly get going somewhere
- Crucible of Worlds , Ramunap Excavator , Life from the Loam Allow you to play the lands from your graveyard after we have sacrificed them for effects. Also makes always hitting your lands drops easier if you are playing and sacrificing a fetch land
- Exploration , Azusa, Lost but Seeking , Oracle of Mul Daya all ways to play more lands per turn
- Cavalier of Flame can be card draw and synergizes with lands in graveyard. As well as being an elemental!
- Scapeshift lots of triggers all at once
- Splendid Reclamation if we are sacrificing lands then this gets them all back. Very good after a scapeshift
- Amulet of Vigor makes some of our ramp a lot more effective, while at the same time providing a good combo with Perilous Forays and Omnath, Locus of Rage Of recommendation if you run a lot of land recursion effects then other lands that sacrifice themselves might be worth it. Like Wasteland Strip Mine etc
I won't re-list the cuts recommeneded in the ramp section. I will be evaluating cuts in the assumption that the deck is wanting to be a combination of an elementals ramp deck and a lands value deck. A lot of these recomendations for cuts will have very similar reasonings, which I will elaborate on first to be able to be brief later on. These recommendations will possibly sound rather brutal, however I find that it makes it a lot easier to have too many cards that are on the cutting block rather than not enough.
- Too Slow. If the card takes too many turns to start pulling its weight then it could be replaced with something that does what we need sooner. This is common in cards which have 'at the beginning of your upkeep' effects as they will normally have to wait an entire turn cycle to start doing something. Enters the battlefield triggers or similar things that have an effect the turn you play them are often preferred.
- Too expensive. This should be self explanatory. If the card costs too much mana, especially if the same effect can be achieved for less mana then it should be exmined.
- Doesn't do enough. While the effect might be interesting and maybe something we actually want in the deck, The card just doesn't pull its weight in whatever role it is supposed to be doing
- Doesn't contribute to our game plan This might be a good card, maybe even a great card in other decks. But perhaps the effect just isn't one we need in this deck
- Cytoplast Root-Kin Too slow. Doesn't contribute to our game plan.
- Dragonmaster Outcast Too slow. Doesn't do enough
- Grazing Gladehart Doesn't do enough. While we like landfall triggers. The life gain is small enough to be negligable unless we are massrecycling all lands from our yard multiple times.
- Magmatic Force Too Slow.
- Magmaw Doens't contribute to our game plan / Doesn't Do enough. We can run other sac outlets if we want ways to sacrifice our elementals
- Scute Mob Possibly too slow. But I love me a scute mob so I'm fine with this staying in :D
- Spawnwrithe Doesn't do enough. However this one can stay in if you have found that you realistically get to connect with it at least twice to have four of them
- Tendershoot Dryad Doesn't contribute to our game plan. Though it is very good at gummin gup the board
- Tyrant of Discord Doesn't do enough. However if you change to having some ways to knock your opponents off of lands then the chances of this hitting multiple nonlands go up and its value does too. However there are enough control players where the onlything this will do is destroy a land at random
- Undergrowth Champion Deosn't do enough. It's got all the right keywords but thats about it
- Retreat to Kazandu Doesn't do enough. THe landfall idea is good, but putting 1 counter an a guy once or so a turn isn't worth the slot really
- Sword of the Animist Too Slow. We want this effect, but we aren't attacking multiple times in one turn so there are better effects to get lands from our deck. We don't neccessarily even have than many small creatures to equip this too to get it active early enough for the ramp to be that useful as ramp
- Animist's Awakening As much as i want this spell to ever be good. It's just not really at all.
- Journey of Discovery Too slow. For this to be actual search out ramp you need to entwine it which is then 6 mana. Any of the 4 mana double basics would be better here. Or just Explore type effects that cantrip too.
Turns out there is only slightly too much Nissa. (And not enough Chandra ;) ) All of the Nissas' contribute to our gameplan well except for Nissa, Voice of Zendikar . The general rule of Planeswalkers in commander is to assume that you will only get two activations if you are lucky. So with this one you will at best buff your team a little. Consider Garruk Wildspeaker instead maybe?
Other random Card Recommendations
- Boundless Realms All the rest of our lands from our deck? Yes please
- Sylvan Awakening We do this, then we overrun and nobody will be expecting it
- Genesis Wave As previously mentioned. It's the better Animist's Awakening
- The Mending of Dominaria More mass land recursion.
Well I hope some of this helped at least a little :)
7 months ago
Temur elementals feels the way to go. It also gives access to Young Pyromancer which gets a little silly with reef.
Its worth looking at turns 1-2-3 and planning around that- elementals has amazing options;
Old spellslinger cards like Nivmagus Elemental , value like Voice of Resurgence , Flickerwisp and Mulldrifter , a blink subtheme with Shorecrasher Elemental , tribal cards like Brighthearth Banneret and Rage Forger , staples like Fulminator Mage , weird synergy/combo like Vesperlark / Reveillark or Necroskitter , a land animation subtheme( Wind Zendikon , Sylvan Awakening , etc), combo ramp in Soulbright Flamekin / Runaway Steam-Kin / Storm Entity , take over the game cards like Spawnwrithe , graveyard strats like Vengevine / Splinterfright / Thunderkin Awakener .
There is enough support for pretty much anything from control to aggro- it just needs a dig into what synergies you need and what supporting cards make that good.