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| Format | Legality |
| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Block Constructed | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Oathbreaker | Legal |
| Planar Constructed | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Optimus Prime, Hero
Legendary Artifact Creature — Robot
More Than Meets the Eye (You may cast this card transformed for .)
At the beginning of each end step, bolster 1. (Choose a creature with the least toughness among creatures you control and put a +1/+1 counter on it.)
When Optimus Prime dies, return it to the battlefield transformed under its owner's control.
TypicalTimmy on Card creation challenge
9 months ago
Lol another decepticon? Okay. Oh! So apparently the "correct" subtype is actually Robot. See Optimus Prime, Hero Flip as an example. So last time when I made Devestator and called him a Decepticon Juggernaut and had him care about Decepticons, that was actually incorrect. He should have been a Robot Juggernaut and care about Robot subtypes. Perhaps Vehicle subtypes also, but then that would mean he'd have a wide swath of Crew abilities and that'd just make it too cumbersome to reasonably play.
So I'm going to actually make a slight change to the challenge. One of my all-time favorite videogame series growing up was Twisted Metal. I've played all of them. So I'm going to make one of my favorite characters, Darkside, into a Decepticon.
Darkside is the giant black semitruck, btw.
Darkside, Terrorizer
Legendary Artifact Creature - Robot
More Than Meets the Eye (You may cast this card converted for .)
Whenever Darkside, Terrorizer attacks you may destroy target tapped permanent. If you don't, you may convert Darkside.
5/5
Darkside, Brutalizer
Legendary Artifact - Vehicle
Living metal (As long as it's your turn, this Vehicle is also a creature.)
Menace
Whenever Darkside, Brutalizer destroys another creature, you draw a card and its controller loses 3 life. Then, if Darkside destroyed two or more creatures with combat damage, you may convert it.
4/8
Oh yeah, this makes me happi >:3
Make another character from a videogame series you enjoyed while growing up!
DreadKhan on Edh options
10 months ago
He's not heavily played, but Kresh the Bloodbraided can do some absolutely nutso things when he's big enough, and the deck often has some control elements (especially vs creatures, the deck wants to kill off everything but Kresh typically). It can be built on a budget (for Casual play) or as a High Power deck. On a budget you run all of the Merciless Executioner effects you can find, and at higher power you'll still run a bunch of them, but you'll also have Dictate of Erebos effects. Rite of the Raging Storm by itself turns Kresh into a huge body, and it's easy to include lots of Flings/Chandra's Ignition/Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord to win, but you can also use stuff like Mandate of Abaddon to wipe the board and one-shot someone, there are a TON of cards that play very well with Kresh, and people probably aren't familiar with the deck at this point.
Another option might be Azorius Control, Azorius is a great pair for wipes, removal and countermagic, meaning you can deal with problems, both for yourself as well as the table. I guess you might go something like Shorikai, Genesis Engine and play any vehicles that don't suck? You can freely wipe your pilots without risking your vehicles, even without things like Teferi's Protection. The card draw Shorikai offers can really help you dig, and it synergizes with untap effects.
My final idea would be something like Sauron, the Dark Lord, Grixis gives you a lot of control options, and Sauron makes you a big honking army very readily, and fwiw you can make an evasive Changeling (like Changeling Outcast) your Army in place of a token. Grixis struggles a bit vs certain types of permanents, but you can certainly pressure people and have input as to what stays around.
Oh yeah, just thought of a bad idea I've never gotten around to testing, but you might be able to build Optimus Prime, Hero Flip with all the Jeskai wipes you can find? Optimus can 'survive' a wipe, so as long as you can give him Haste somehow you can swing each turn vs a cleared board, wiping whenever anyone gets anything relevant out. Would it be obnoxious? Incredibly so. But I think it could work, especially since you have Red for various good Haste sources. You probably need lots of things to protect Optimus from Swords effects, including a smattering of Blue counters that are either free or cost {U} so you can hold them up.
Taking a look at other people's ideas, I support Karazikar and Breena, both seem like great fits!
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Optimus Prime Rolls Out!
2 years ago
Hey, you're welcome.
What is your budget for making upgrades? There's tiers of price for lands to consider adding. I would add all these lands if you can.
- Low: Spire of Industry
- Medium: Glimmervoid
- High: City of Brass
Fetch lands are expensive price lands, but they let you better use your best lands Volcanic and Tundra.
- Scalding Tarn, Arid Mesa, Flooded Strand
- Shock lands: Steam Vents, Hallowed Fountain and Sacred Foundry
A Fetch land can search for one of these lands and put it onto the battlefield. The Shock lands are the lesser price, but still expensive alternative to Volcanic and Tundra type lands.
You're right, convert is identical to transform, but Optimus Prime, Hero Flip doesn't convert normally, it first dies which leaves the battlefield then returns converted. Because Optimus leaves the battlefield then when it returns it's a new object that doesn't recognize the previous Optimus, it will have summoning sickness. If you sac to convert Hero during your turn you will need a haste source for Optimus Prime, Autobot Leader Flip to attack.
When Leader converts Optimus doesn't leave the battlefield, Hero won't have summoning sickness and keep it's counters. Another reason, that if you can, always put the +1/+1 counters on Leader because when Hero leaves the battlefield the counters go away. Hero is leaving the battlefield much more than Leader. In fact, you can control it so that Leader doesn't convert by not attacking with the lowest toughness creature you control. When Leader attacks you bolster 2 that creature, but that creature has to do combat damage to a player to convert Optimus and it can't do that if it didn't attack.
This why I suggested to sac convert Hero during an opponent's turn because then Optimus leaves the battlefield and returns. It's not on your turn though thus summoning sickness doesn't matter. On your next turn you can attack with Leader.
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Optimus Prime Rolls Out!
2 years ago
Hey, good version so far and nice Transmute Artifact. It's crazy only three cards here make up $1700+ of the $2k deck price.
Your deck doesn't have a Commander. In the deck editor where you see text list of the cards add CMDR to the end of Optimus?
Optimus Prime, Hero *CMDR*
When you save and return to your deck Optimus will be the Commander with it's own category and card image.
Definitely find room for Zabaz, the Glimmerwasp since it does a lot for a 1 drop. Zabaz + Optimus Prime, Autobot Leader Flip is honestly all you really need since the little bug does it all. Modular and being a repeatable sac outlet for Optimus Prime, Hero Flip is excellent. It can sac itself to then put all it's counters on Optimus Prime, Autobot Leader Flip for a huge attack of lethal Commander damage to an opponent. It being a sac outlet for Optimus Prime, Hero Flip is what makes it powerful.
Animation Module can be part of a combo for infinite counters on all creatures you control and infinite Servos with Ashnod's Altar + Cathars' Crusade. The only problem with this combo is Crusade is an enchantment, not an artifact. Without having tutors to get Crusade it could be difficult to assemble. If you add Crusade then enchantment tutors would help.
Some cards here to consider cutting for these:
Because of bolster and other counter sources then the small +1/+1 anthem effect is not really needed from Chief of the Foundry or Master of Etherium. You have three better creatures here who protect artifacts, Bronze Guardian is not needed. Arcbound Crusher could simply be cut for a better modular creature? Towashi Guide-Bot at 4 mana is too much for what you get. Yes, it could be repeatable draw, but you have to tap it to draw only once. It is good with Unwinding Clock, but without Clock it's subpar.
Before I make other card suggestions, what is your budget for making upgrades? You have some of the most expensive price cards in Magic here, but you also have some of the worst budget lands thus I don't know what to think. Some areas to consider expanding on are ramp and sac outlets? Ramp to make it easier to cast Optimus and sac outlets to abuse Optimus Prime, Hero Flip convert. 9 sources of ramp is low when Optimus is 5 or 6 mana.
Optimus Prime, Hero Flip has to die to convert, having some sources to sac him can be helpful and also give lots of value. Sac outlets let you repeatedly use both sides of Optimus and they help to get around having to cast 6 mana Optimus Prime, Hero Flip. Instead, More Than Meets the Eye for Optimus Prime, Autobot Leader Flip which can be even less than 5 mana with any effect that reduces artifact casting cost.
- More Than Meets the Eye for Optimus Prime, Autobot Leader Flip.
- Attack with another creature, bolster/convert to Optimus Prime, Hero Flip.
- Bolster at each player's end step.
- At end of last opponent turn sac Optimus Prime, Hero Flip to convert.
- Repeat on your next turn with Optimus Prime, Autobot Leader Flip who can attack.
To get around summoning sickness you want to be able to sac Optimus Prime, Hero Flip on an opponent's turn. If you sac Optimus Prime, Hero Flip on your turn then when it returns to the battlefield it has summoning sickness, can't attack without haste. This isn't as bad if you have another creature to attack + bolster because Optimus Prime, Autobot Leader Flip itself doesn't have to attack to convert, but still you want to be attacking with trampling Optimus Prime, Autobot Leader Flip doing Commander damage.
If you're interested I offer more advice when I get a better idea what your budget is for upgrades. Would you like more advice?
Good luck with your deck.
BringerOTBD on
Breya, Etherium Shaper
2 years ago
Update: -Marionette Master / +Cyberdrive Awakener -Machine God's Effigy / +Imotekh the Stormlord -Blasphemous Act / +Their Name is Death -Disciple of the Vault / +Steel Overseer -Reverse Engineer / +Losheel, Clockwork Scholar -Bedevil / +Void Rend -Temple of Malice / +Cryptothrall -Temple of Enlightenment / +Optimus Prime, Hero Flip -Temple of Deceit / +Thirst for Knowledge -Temple of Epiphany / +Shivan Reef
Notes: I chose Cryptothrall over Spellskite because they serve the same function, to protect your stuff, but Cryptothrall requires less effort. I put in Optimus because I wanted to experiment with him. Lastly, I'm keeping Austere Command in the deck since I like to have a board wipe that hits enchantments and artifacts.
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