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Lava Coil deals 4 damage to target creature. If that creature would die this turn, exile it instead.
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Lava Coil Discussion
13 hours ago
Hey Melanthios, wow, perfect winning records in all three events great job; I'm honestly surprised. I know this version of the deck is good, but not losing at all to Golgari is amazing. You're right about Loxodon he can be clunky and really requires a curve out to be good. This version can be aggressive with a good curve out into Loxodon, but most of the time it falls into midrange which makes Loxodon less effective. I also agree that Collector without Loxodon is not as good. Loxodon is the reason I'm playing Collector because on curve it can make Collector a very good creature, but if I don't draw Loxodon then Collector is subpar even with a curve out of Collector into Thorn into Champion. I've cut Collector from my Golgari version. Even though I'm playing Glowspore Shaman and Plaguecrafter who are both quite good at pumping Collector.
You're thinking of playing Benalish Marshal and Steel Leaf Champion in the same deck? I think this is a mistake and will strain the manabase too much with 7-8x Forests. Ajani is hard enough to cast. He's really the reason I included Flower; one mana to search of a Plains or Forest is good. Flourish is nice as a pump, but six mana is a lot for +2/+2. If you want a pump for Elves to be better against red then consider Radiant Destiny or Pride of Conquerors? Both these cards can be reliably cast on curve and are low enough mana cost to play one of them before Goblin Chainwhirler.
You're records are great, unfortunately I'm not having as much success with Selesnya; I'm having more success with Golgari. I'm going to be changing this deck soon to Golgari. A preview is Elves of the Swarm (GRN). The problem in Standard right now is there's too much creature removal, so many options. Selesnya just folds when facing a lot of removal especially against Deafening Clarion (Boros Angels, Jeskai Control) and Ritual of Soot (Esper Control, Grixis Control, Golgari). Golgari provides resiliency against removal where as Selesnya doesn't. Ajani's reanimation is great in Selesnya with Elves for recovery, but Golgari has many other options including a damn Elf who can recur any one permanent.
Golgari Findbroker, Find / Finality and The Eldest Reborn these are not just single cards that can recur other cards they can be engines. The fact that Findbroker can recur a Planeswalker is so good for recovery and value. Planeswalkers, Duress, Plaguecrafter, Reborn and even Underrealm Lich or Carnage Tyrant gives Golgari many tools against control.
The point of Golgari is to out card advantage your opponent which with the current pool of cards can be done and it's quite powerful. Ravenous Chupacabra and Plaguecrafter help a ton at doing this because they're versatile removal spells which can be recurred since they're creatures. You're right Lava Coil is a pain in the ass removal spell to play against, but even though it exiles I care less about 1 for 1 removal when playing Findbroker and Find. Unless my opponent draws 3-4 Coils then this card alone is not going to stop me from playing more creatures then my opponent. If he's not exiled being able to recur Steel Leaf Champion is very good in Golgari.
I'm sorry I'm changing my deck so much, but we are still in the early stages of Guilds of Ravnica Standard. I think it's great you're using this deck as inspiration for decks you're actually playing at tournaments and I don't want to discourage you, but have to expect that some versions are just not right at the current time. There are so many good options for Elves right now in Standard that finding the right one and being able to stick with it is difficult.
21 hours ago
Hey Doctor Pond, cool deck! Definitely got an Upvote from me. Just a thought, but I would consider trading 2 of your Justice Strikes out for Lava Coil or Ixalan's Binding. Don't get me wrong, there will be matchups where JS is going to be a star, but with Aurelia, Exemplar of Justice and Shalai, Voice of Plenty running around, there will be times that it will be a dead card. I'd also consider splashing green for cards like Emmara, Soul of the Accord and March of the Multitudes. Just a few suggestions, feel free to implement or ignore as you see fit, always nice to see someone playing a different strategy!
22 hours ago
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multimedia - so I took the previous iteration of this deck, without the Marches, and I know how powerful they are, and brought it to 1 FNM, 1 Saturday Showdown and a Sunday Clash (something we do where I'm at), and I went 4-0, 3-0, 4-0. The decks faced were U/R Infinity Storm, Selesnya Tokens, 2 variations of Golgari reanimator/undergrowth, Mono Red Runaway burn, Boros Angels, Boros Burn, Jeskai Control and I think 1 Esper control.
Most matchups, the easiest side out was the Loxodons, they can sometimes be clunky when you really want to powershift your way through the match up. My sideboard runs 2 Sorcerous Spyglass and 2 Shalai, Voice of Plenty and these proved to be back breaking for most control matchups. Lava Coil is a problem however, and Trostani Discordant proved life changing for Shalai's toughness. That being said, those are some impossibly nutty hands and often I lost my Shalai to a Coil.
Eventhough he's not an elf, I'm thinking that Benalish Marshal is a must have in the red matchups. isn't impossible to get on turn 3 with temple gardens and sunpetals, and to play a turn 2 Steely Boy then Turn 3 Benalish, or Pelt into Benalish is a pretty strong play.
Another often benched card was in fact Pelt Collector, as fast as this deck gets, there are times where you want Llanowar on 1, rather than Collector and he comes down if you have a consecutive play... however, he's a real easy target for Shock and Lightning Strike.
I found the +4 health from Knight of Autumn to be a real life saver in some of the midrange matchups. I also want to put Nullhide Ferox x1 back in my side and I think Carnage Tyrant x 1 for the u/r Counterburn deck. Assure//Assemble (dunno how to tag this) is a great card for Carnage especially with all the white boardwipes in standard right now.
Anyway, I like the previous iteration of the deck and I think the March version is good too, I don't have the marches, but I'll plan on winning some in the future to try this version out.
I still think we have a hard time vs. bant turbo fog and some variations of x/b and x/r can really put a dent in our running. Keep it up dude!
Also I might add, if your opponent cannot deal with an Elvish Clancaller, and you have 6 mana, your stuff gets out of hand real fast.
1 day ago
drsnailtrail I actually had to google saffron olives deck list to see what your where talking about. after seeing his list I agree his deck is not terribly good since his doesn't do enough to control the board and minimize the amount of potential creature damage you would need to worry about receiving or blocking against. I try and fight this with Blink of an Eye, Lava Coil, and Wizard's Lightning. My sideboard even has a couple of copies of Sleep in it (I actually run three in my deck now) just to try and hold token and weenie decks at bay.
2 days ago
1x Watery Grave
1x Beacon Bolt
1x Lava Coil
3 days ago
Yea, this deck seems to lose hard vs G/W tokens. So Fiery Cannonade is a must as a 4 of and tbh i might put 2 in main board and Lava Coil really helps me turn the corner. And start domeing then in the face with burn. I could drop a coil and a counter.... maybe well we are talking side board