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Lava Coil deals 4 damage to target creature. If that creature would die this turn, exile it instead.
Lava Coil Discussion
3 days ago
Hey, fellow 'Laddie brewer! Stopping by to suggest some ideas to your deck.
It looks like you're mostly trying to go wide with tokens, and occasionally punish with big bois, or all the big bois. I noticed you have several token makers, but not enough big bois to make tokens of, or copy makers themselves. In this scope, allow me to suggest a few cards and possible pieces you could directly replace. These suggestions are rather minor as I don't want to change the scope of the deck entirely, as it should still be yours. :)
- Trading Post in for Whirlermaker : 4 mana and tap to make a dude is too expensive. A better option is to put in good ol' Trading Post as it makes a 0/1 goat for 1 mana and 1 life. Remember that life is a resource too, and at 40 in EDH, 1 life won't make that much of a difference. Besides, Trading Post does it all! Draws a card, recurs artifacts, creates tokens, and gains life. Excellent piece for any artifact deck.
- Cyclonic Rift for Aether Gale : This is the first big money upgrade I'm suggesting. I understand if you want to maintain a budget, but consider splurging on a CyRift if you see the chance to trade for one or come across some extra dineros. It bounces EVERYTHING except for your big bad bois, so you can swing out and win.
- Chaos Warp : Izzet suffers from the ability to remove enchantments or exiling in general (other than very few spells like Lava Coil or Curse of the Swine , two cards you also may want to consider as removal), so having a card that can hit anything is imperative. Chaos Warp at $2ish does just that. At instant speed! Oh, I'm about to get swung at with an unblockable Blightsteel Colossus ? Nope that noise. They've got Propaganda or Sphere of Safety ? Tuck it away! Thus, your chances to win increase even more. Like your number of tokens.
- Twinflame : Cheap copy maker, and you can make even more copies of more things, but only one is enough for Laddie to create an army. It's a bulk-ish card so it shouldn't hurt the budget.
- Desolation Twin : Another bulk card that makes a token on entry?? Excuse me?? Yup. Gives you a free 10/10 token on arrival that Brudiclad would like to use as a template. No annihilator, though, but an army of 10/10s is NOTHING to laugh at.
- Master of Etherium : A cheap, stronger, yet more vulnerable alternative to Darksteel Juggernaut. For three mana, its P/T is also equal to the number of artifacts you control, but it gets better. Other artifacts you control get +1/+1, meaning that EVERY Master of Etherium buffs the rest, giving you effectively twice as much power as the same number of Darksteel Juggernauts. And the cheap mana cost means you can pay to make a token of it on the same turn, then swing out with 10 tokens with 19/19. That's death. lol
- Flameshadow Conjuring : This card's worth a couple of bucks, but it's an enchantment that makes a token of anything you play for red. One mana. That's it. With Etherium Sculptor out, you would pay full price for a big beater AND a token of it that Lad is going to replicate. This card sees plenty of hate, so be way of when you play. Also, the token goes away at end of turn, so make
- Dance of Many : Old, cheap enchantment (costs UU to play) that makes a copy of ANYTHING on the board. Has a UU maintenance cost at the upkeep, but it doesn't matter if you already made other copies and swung with them all.
I invite you to look at (my build)[http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/brudiclad-the-big-bad-boi-builder/] and compare lists for ideas. Again, I didn't suggest many changes because I don't want to take away from the deck; it should still be yours. Lemme know what you think of these changes!
5 days ago
catlinkelly if the mana feels like it’s being stretched too much then maybe, costing 1 to activate makes it tough on deck that really wants to curve out turns 1-4 though and the counter wouldn’t protect anything from Lightning Strike or Lava Coil , which would really be the reason to want it. Thanks for the suggestion!
1 week ago
I honestly would try to make the deck more control focused in the early game and then switch to beating them to death with your flying demons with trample later in the game. So this would mean having cards like Moment of Craving , Lava Coil , Bedeck / Bedazzle , Ritual of Soot , Golden Demise , Vraska's Contempt , and Bedevil to keep the opponents board under control. Cards like Scorchmark , Bladebrand , and Undercity's Embrace are not the cards you are going to want to use because, well quite frankly they aren't very good. Bladebrand is effectively a 2 for 1 trade for an opponent's creature at the cost of your own. Sure it draws you a card but you used 2 cards when one would suffice. Do you want card draw or removal? Scorchmark is just a worse Lava Coil . Undercity's Embrace can be alright but The Eldest Reborn is just better. Sure embrace can be used earlier but what do you need to kill early on that requires the opponent to sacrifice it? Carnage Tyrant ? Well, that doesn't typically come out on turn three anyways and if it does they've got 3 other creatures to choose from. Bedevil is just a better 3 mana kill spell to put in this spot.
Sorry if that sounded mean/ranty but I really didn't mean it to be, I just think that there are better choices to be made then the ones that are currently in the deck. I'm glad someone is trying to do a demon deck as I want to do the same, but sadly there just doesn't seem to be enough out there for a tried and true demons focused creature deck. At least in my opinion. I hope this was at least somewhat helpful.
1 week ago
2 weeks ago
First off, congrats on your 2-1 finish! That’s an excellent showing! I’m thrilled to hear you decided to take the deck for a spin, and did so well with it! I also really, really enjoyed your tournament report — thank you so much for posting it. Seriously, it made my day. Well-written and fun to read. I really got a kick out of it. Keep them coming!!
I’m also glad that your second opponent enjoyed the deck! I humbly thank him for his compliments.
Now, let’s talk strategy. I agree with you that generally it is more correct to mainboard the full playset of Duress and to keep Fiery Cannonade on the sideboard. The general metagame simply has too many rich targets for the card, and too many cards that can wreck your game unless you snag them. Also, I’d note, too, that without Duress , control decks are extremely tough to beat in Game 1. I think Duress is the way to go for now.
First, let me try to answer your questions.
1) “First, when you sideboard, what cards do you tend to pull to make room?”
Generally, my matchups tend to fall into one of three broad categories: control, midrange, or aggro. What follows are my general sideboard approaches to the three, and reasons why. Keep in mind that all decks are different, though, so tweak your plans based on your observations and instincts in the moment.
- Aggro: -4x Ruin Raider , -4x Duress , -1x Dire Fleet Daredevil ; +4x Fiery Cannonade , +3x Price of Fame , +2x Cast Down (or just five additional pieces of whatever targeted removal you are playing on the sideboard; Bedevil is good too if you have it)
Aggro is about keeping your opponent’s creatures at bay while attacking with your own. These matchups are often a race, so your life total is precious. Hence, Ruin Raider is out. Since aggro usually runs lots of low-toughness creatures, Cannonade does big work here. Most aggro lists run comparatively few spells, so you can leave Duress behind here most of the time. Adding in lots of removal helps make sure you will stay alive. If your opponent does the same thing, you can consider sneaking in some March of the Drowned for Game 3.
- Midrange: -4x Rigging Runner , everything else depends; bring in various cards that “seem good” against what the opponent is doing
It’s hard to neatly categorize midrange decks because there’s so much diversity in this broad group. Basically, these decks all share one aspect — they all want to grind. They tend to have lots of removal, lots of creatures that double as spells and provide incidental value ( Ravenous Chupacabra is a great example), and piles of late-game threats like Doom Whisperer and Carnage Tyrant that can win the game if unanswered. In general, Rigging Runner is weak against decks that want to grind because it is such a poor draw late in the game. So almost always, he comes out. What do you put in? Almost always some number of March of the Drowned because these decks are so grindy and removal-heavy, usually at least a couple of hard removal spells like Cast Down to deal with any game-winning creatures they resolve late in the game, and maybe even Fiery Cannonade if they have a substantial suite of creatures that lie lower on the mana curve (mana dorks like Llanowar Elves ramp decks are good fodder for Fiery Cannonade ). Sorcerous Spyglass is great against midrange decks using lots of planeswalkers. You’ll have to often tweak things and use your judgment here.
- Control: I’ll make it easy here, just do this exact sideboard.
-4x Rigging Runner , -4x Lava Coil , -1x Dire Fleet Poisoner ; +4x March of the Drowned , +2x Sorcerous Spyglass , +3x Price of Fame . You want as much card draw ( Ruin Raider ) and recursion as you can get here, and you want as many Duress effects as possible. Price of Fame will kill their finishers apart from hexproof threats (especially good against Lyra Dawnbringer ) and help fix the top of your deck so you can close out the game (surveil also works pretty well with March of the Drowned ). Note that if they’re on the Rekindling Phoenix plan that you’ll want to hang onto some Lava Coil s, too. If you do this sideboard, you’ll stop them cold almost every time. You just have too many ways to disrupt their plan, and either to prevent or recover from their sweepers. There’s a certain skill of playing against control, too, so you will need to get the hang of it. It’s not easy, and it’s a different approach to the game. Avoiding overcommitment to the board if you fear a sweeper, playing around a Settle the Wreckage , deciding which cards to cast into countermagic — all of these are decisions you must make correctly if you want to defeat the control player.
2) what plans do you have to include cards from Allegiance?
Well, aside from the obvious upgrades of the shock lands ( Blood Crypt ) being inserted in place of 4 basic lands, I opted to put in 3 Bedevil in place of three of the targeted removal spells I previously used on the sideboard (one Cast Down , and two Price of Fame ). Bedevil hits so many things. Now I can hit either Lyra or Teferi against control, and we even have an option against artifacts.
Re: Theater of Horrors and Light Up the Stage ...I feel that we have plenty of card advantage in Ruin Raider and Dire Fleet Daredevil (the Daredevil does provide free cards quite often). And they are on-theme as a creatures and as Pirates. The Theater though, is a really good card and worth a try. It provides damage and cards, both very good against control. I’m not a huge fan of exiling cards face-up because it robs Dire Fleet Poisoner of its surprise factor and therefore much of its power. Still, if the Theater lands against control, it could be very, very good. However, I feel we are already strong against control, so I’m not sure we need it. I think these cards are good though, and you could very well be onto something. If you do incorporate them into your build, I’d love to hear how they perform.
Remember you can always read my updates posted to this deck page for my tournament reports. I give some info about how matches and sideboard decisions turn out, if a bit choppily put at times. We are Pirates, after all!
Thanks again for the comment — I’m super happy and flattered to hear you are enjoying the deck. I’m looking forward to hearing about your further successes!
3 weeks ago
vomitpile Thats a nice combo with chainwhirler, plus can chumpblock with a 1/1 goblin. I have the 4 Cindervines because i hate Nexus of Fate decks. I also use it for all the other wonderful enchantments there are. I didnt make a sideboard but Lava Coil is in it for the exile. I use both the Gruul dual cards for removal, extra damage, and a possible 4-drop. Thanks for the advice man!
3 weeks ago
The Cindervines as a main deck 4 of seems like too many, maybe 2 in the side and 2 main? You can also splash into the Status / Statue combo with chainwhirler very easily and against decks that go bigger than you with Biogenic Ooze or something similar, have a access to a boardwipe can be huge. Also, Lava Coil still seems like the best removal for red since the decks from GRN will all be viable. Good luck!
3 weeks ago
Tonight I played in my first FNM since returning to the game. I have assembled some decks of my own and played a few casual games, but for my first constructed competition, I wanted something that I felt would not lead to abject failure. I ran a clone of your deck. Wow.
There were only six people so we played a causal structure with just three matches. Your beautiful deck went 2 and 1.
The first opponent was a very experienced player (it was his card shop) using a Dimir control/midrange that relied heavily on surveil for card advantage and to fuel some 2nd and 3rd turn Dimir Spybug s in the first game. Unfortunately I had to mulligan having drawn only one land. The next hand had two but I failed to draw another until the fifth turn. By then, one of the bugs was 4/4, the other was 3/3, and we had traded blows with the smaller pirates I had been able cast. Luckily, my third land let me launch a Fiery Cannonade that took out the smaller bug (alas, the heroic Rigging Runner it had blocked didn't make it) as well as the two Nightveil Sprite s that had pumped the bugs. Next turn I was able to cast a Kitesail Freebooter and when I sent a full charge the next turn, he blocked with his big (now 6/6) bug only to find a flash-cast Dire Fleet Poisoner helping out the Freebooter. Hurrah. I was able to drop in a Dire Fleet Neckbreaker and the game was quickly over. For the second game, I sideboarded in the Duress package as well as the Cast Down s and Price of Fame s. I used two of the Duress to great effect snagging countermagic both times, and the Cast Down s were useful against a wide variety of Dimir nasties like Dream Eater , Nightveil Predator , and Thief of Sanity . It took a bit of time, but I finally defeated my opponent after dropping two Neckbreakers for a big charge.
My second opponent was another recent returnee to Magic--we both tend to play with out land in front on the battlefield as was illustrated in the original MTG instruction pamphlet. He was playing an unmodified Ral Planeswalker deck. The speed of the pirate deck made short work of him in about ten minutes. For the remaining time, we swapped decks and played again. He wasn't familiar with the cards or mechanics so it was drawn out, but he was winning when the other matches ended. He also sends you compliments on the pirates...Arg.
Third match was against the winner from the other bracket. The player is the local judge, and she lives and breathes the game. She was playing a Teferi control deck. The deck was four colors (no green) and the manabase cost enough to feed a small goblin tribe for a decade--there were no basic lands. The first game I was able to get a decent start and was able to do significant damage before she cleared the board with a Deafening Clarion . She then dropped a Lyra which I was unable to answer and that game was soon over.
I almost swapped in the entire sideboard, leaving out only one of the March of the Drowned . I had a decent draw, but unfortunately, the three lands--two swamps and an Unclaimed Territory were the only land cards I drew for at least six turns. I was able to cast some pirates and did draw both Sorcerous Spyglass s and used them both against Teferi (the first was destroyed). Unfortunately, she cast a Rekindling Phoenix and without any regular red mana sources, the only way I could get rid of it was to use two Cast Down s, first during her turn, then during mine. The next turn, she cast another. After finally dropping a mountain, I was able to Lava Coil the buzzard and got in a few decent hits before the bitch Lyra hit the board again. Luckily, I drew into a Price of Fame and got rid of it, only to have her cast another. I did try to use a Dire Fleet Daredevil to borrow one of her creature kills, but she counterspelled him. My demise was as quick as it was inevitable.
Overall, the deck did well. I don't know enough about the Teferi deck to figure out what else I could have done against it, but the second round would have been much closer if I had not been mana hosed.
Having successfully used the deck, I have two questions. First, when you sideboard, what cards do you tend to pull to make room? I figure it is rather situational based on what the opponent's deck looked like in the first game, but what are the most likely cards you pull. Against the Teferi, I stripped out the Rigging Runner s and the Fiery Cannonade s. I also dropped two Ruin Raider (which may have been a mistake because she quickly burned the one I was able to cast in game 2) and all four of the Dire Fleet Poisoner s--the Deathtouch would be worthless against Lyra and I don't think she would have fallen for the same attacking Freebooter trick I pulled against my first opponent to get rid of the phoenix.
Second, what plans do you have to include cards from Allegiance? The creature cards don't fit the pirate theme, but with the possibly diminishing payoff of the Fiery Cannonade (which may change if the is a resurgence of aggro from Rakdos or Orzhov via the Allegiance cards) would it be worth it to include some non pirate creatures?
Aside from creatures, I think both Light Up the Stage and Theater of Horrors could be viable ways to get additional card advantage. With Spectacle, Light Up the Stage is a cheap way to access two more cards and you have until the end of your next turn to use them.. I saw the card used to great effect in the prerelease.
Theater of Horrors ? Don't know..your opponents see all cards as they build up, but that could be to your advantage if they focus on the potentials of the exiled cards and may not anticipate cards in hand. Plus basically drawing two card every turn without worrying about hand size? Only fear is removal that kills your enchantment andthus permanently exiling everything.
Anyway, thanks again for your deck. I am more confident about trying my decks, but I may still the sirens call to go sailing some Friday night with those scurvy seadogs. :)
Lava Coil occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.26%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.0%