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3 weeks ago
TheStoneRaptor - I have a few suggestions I can share but keep in mind, I am by no means an expert so take all my advice/suggestions with a grain of salt.
You have a very high mana curve with a average CMC of 3.95..this is a very slow deck. Also to your disadvantage, you are not running much in terms of "interaction" beside Aim High + Plummet , which is not exactly efficient. Regardless of what you do here, you will need to likely lower your mana curve to either speed up the deck or add in more interactions.
You are running more than 60 cards, I would not recommend this as it is a trap...usually. Most decks are built around a few cards that you want to draw every game for the deck to work at its best, adding in more cards just lowers the probability of drawing the cards you really want.
It seems like you have a few themes with this deck. I see Essence Warden so think Soul Sisters...I see some +1/+1 counter synergy...AND I see token creation. I would pick a theme and really hone in on it. The deck will run much smoother.
Some suggestions for trimming down the mana curve. Darien, King of Kjeldor, Emmara Tandris, Iridescent Hornbeetle, Mycoloth are all almost at least 5 CMC and create tokens in some manner. I would recommend removing most of these cards and replacing them with something similar. Some great options include Brimaz, King of Oreskos, Esika's Chariot, Anointed Procession, Parallel Lives, Intangible Virtue, etc. The same goes for Planeswalkers...you have Ajani, Valiant Protector who throws around +1/+1 counters and Elspeth, Sun's Champion. I would take these out and maybe replace with maybe Basri Ket or just drop them entirely.
Hopefully something I mentioned you will find helpful. If seeing something similar might help, I do run a +1/+1 counter deck (I'll Raise you +1/+1...) and specifically a cat theme token deck (Feline Feelings. Take a look at those for some inspriation. They are not perfect by any means by they are fun an effective.
Good luck and happy brewing!
2 months ago
I like this deck! Raise the Alarm as an instant flip for poppet seems like a great interaction, and the fact that poppet is a may ability gives you a lot of flexibility to how you use it on your turns. With all of the draw power you have, it seems like an engine that you can get consistently.
Creatures in a spells-matter deck can always be hard to pull off, but this looks legit. I mean, I'm not super up to date on the pioneer meta, but 3 3/3s off a two mana instant is almost a better Esika's Chariot I suppose you do need poppet in play, but still.
3 months ago
wallisface - You were definitely right about upping the mana. Only done a handful of play testing and since I increased it to 23 lands it has been performing much better and just "feels" like I am not hoping to draw a land to be able to play one of my higher CMC cards. Just consistently starting games with 3-4 lands in hand. The addition of the extra 1-drop cats has also been a big improvement as Temple Garden and Loam Lion are a pretty good move on turn 1.
You might be right about Heroic Intervention. So far only one game where I have used it so might be swapping that out for some additional removal spells/creatures. We shall see...Thanks again for your suggestions!
NonetheWeisser - Only a single Esika's Chariot in so far but it has gotten played a few games. Already love it as those cat tokens it generates when it is played are so nice and the populate ability is so good...In one of the games I had Anointed Procession out so that was the final nail in the coffin. Thanks for the inspiration!
3 months ago
Yeah I totally get that :/ Both, the Cat and Dog SL went so far up in price that I got to spend money on the Lightning Greaves only instead of the whole thing >< That being said I also really like
in my deck and the art is big serotonin ^-^ ~
Aspect of Mongoose is not the prettiest or cutest art but for some reason the tigers derpy face gets me every time... If you want to check out the whole thing >>> Rin and Seri, Inseparable | Insepawble Friends
3 months ago
NonetheWeisser - Thanks for the compliment. Every card can be very potent under the right circumstances...trouble is trying to optimize it so that circumstances come up often enough to warrant the presence of the card!
Your assessment of me being cheap was spot on. I am fairly new to MTGO and have a monthly budget I try to stick to so everything for me is budget for now. I am slowly adding new cards and better lands into my collection (only reason why I do not own Esika's Chariot yet is due is slightly elevated cost in comparison to all the other cards in this deck). In terms of investing in more expensive lands, I am assuming you are suggesting Windswept Heath or did you have others in mind specifically?
3 months ago
Love the deck! I have been tinkering with a cat token deck for a bit now and after reading through some of your trials and tribulations, I have some ideas of how to improve my deck (Feline Feelings).
I also liked your assessment of Regal Caracal. I do love that card but at 5 CMC, it feels so tough to play at times. I am currently playing two copies in my deck currently but I think I will learn from you and drop it down to a single copy as well.
4 months ago
Hey, m4rs, I'm back with some spicy tech for your deck, this time regarding the big tokens themselves:
My suggestion, whenever possible, is to run creatures over other spell types for the same effect: they synergize better with your deck, despite being more vulnerable to boardwipes. (It makes you more explosive, which is better the higher you go on power level).
Have you considered Quartzwood Crasher? It is already a trampling beater that gives you even bigger trampling beaters.
Overwhelming Stampede is great when you have a 5+ power creature on the board. Unfortunately it doesn't apply to the tokens created thereafter.
Delina, Wild Mage can copy your legendary creatures as non-legendary, just for Ghired to copy them even further. (Throw in Parallel Lives in the mix and we're salivating already.) Maybe you're lucky enough and roll 15+ three times in a row?
Harmonic Prodigy and Wulfgar of Icewind Dale double your Ghired triggers. The former can be cloned for extra spice and the latter also works with Etali, Primal Storm, Aurelia, the Warleader and Combat Celebrant. (Too bad Isshin, Two Heavens as One is black :-/)
If you're relying a lot on "when-something-enters-the-battlefield" effects, Panharmonicon might be a good friend to you.
In that matter, Hofri Ghostforge gives all your creatures a second life should your opponents dare removing them. (I played against him, and it is ANNOYING to have to kill things twice to get rid of them.) The bright side is that the exiled cards come back to the graveyard after they LEAVE the battlefield for any reason, so you can recur them.
Iroas, God of Victory gives evasion to your creatures while protecting them from blockers.
Marisi, Breaker of the Coil should maybe return to the deck if you're afraid of being attacked when going all-in, since you removed Intangible Virtue. It also has the neat bonus of your opponents having to answer before you declare who you're attacking. (I know it doesn't scream "token" off its textbox, but it is a repeatable Disrupt Decorum effect which clears the board for your next attack).
I believe Selesnya Eulogist might be swapped out for Scavenging Ooze or the recently spoiled Lion Sash. Despite not populating, they exile any card and are cheaper mana-wise. The Sash can also be equipped to a creature to buff a creature and avoid creature wipes.
Since you run the Moxen, Gemstone Caverns fills the same role of exchanging cards for tempo, while being a land. (You can always choose to not go first if you win the dice roll.)
Now, as always, I want to suggest some removals:
I love Mimic Vat in battlecruiser games, but it doesn't pull the same weight on quick games. (It hurts to write it, but my beloved Soul Foundry might also only belong to Christmasland, since, if you don't have the mana to cast AND copy the creature right away, your opponents might see the danger incoming and remove the artifact before you get any value off it.)
Tendershoot Dryad might not belong here, since Ghired cares about quality, not exactly quantity of the tokens.
Esika's Chariot. I understand it already comes with its tokens for crewing, but getting a token copy of TOKEN creatures AFTER combat is too narrow for my taste (and you don't have noncreature tokens). Again, Rionya and Delina are better suited for this job.
Sword of Hearth and Home is good protection stapled to decent blink and ramp effects, but the ramp comes too late for Ghired to care, the blink is unreliable and the protection can be better executed by Shalai, Voice of Plenty, Saryth, the Viper's Fang (trample + deathtouch is nasty), Privileged Position or Asceticism.
What are your experiences with Warstorm Surge? I usually leave it out of my deck if I have access to Terror of the Peaks, since 6 mana is a lot in my games and the Terror is tutorable by cards you already run.
6 months ago
The idea of a vehicles matter planeswalker sounds awesome. My only thought is, what if rather than one character as the walker, what if it was a legendary planeswalking pirate crew or something? Or it could even be a pirate ship itself. Just throwing out ideas :)
But yeah, I really like vehicles, but they're history has been a little rough. I think they have a hard time balancing them in design because you always either get something that will never get used, or something like Smuggler's Copter or Esika's Chariot that break formats. I actually can't remember any vehicles that were just pretty good.
This card looks really fun and I enjoy the space it's playing with. It could take some of those old vehicles that see no use and give them a place.