Grasp of Darkness

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Historic Brawl Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pauper Legal
Pauper Duel Commander Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Pioneer Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Grasp of Darkness

Instant

Target creature gets -4/-4 until end of turn.

Polaris on Can negative counters from instances …

1 month ago

Well, yes, but actually no, for two different reasons.

Deathtouch and lifelink are just keywords, and Judith, Carnage Connoisseur can apply them to any spell, as the ability says. However, those keywords only apply when something deals damage.

First reason: Disfigure gives a creature -2/-2, and that's it. It does not put -1/-1 counters on the target, and it does not deal damage. Neither deathtouch nor lifelink will apply here.

Second reason: Even as a 1/1, your friend's indestructible creature cannot be destroyed. Since deathtouch has the effect of "whenever this deals damage to a creature, destroy that creature," indestructible nullifies it.

To deal with an indestructible creature, you generally need to exile it, reduce its toughness to 0 or less (at which point it will die without being destroyed), or force the opponent to sacrifice it. Something like Disfigure is usually ideal for the job—it just wasn't big enough in this case. Grasp of Darkness would have worked perfectly.

Usually, Judith, Carnage Connoisseur wants damage spells like Lightning Bolt for removal, though those will have issues with indestructible. On Disfigure, you'd just use the Imp mode of her ability.

DiscoMussel on Waste Not Discard (Modern Black Budget Control)

2 years ago

I like this a lot. I play pioneer, so have made some adjustments to fit. I had a couple of questions... You mention Horrifying Revelation, Grasp of Darkness, and Cry of Contrition. Where would you slot these into the deck as they are not in the card list and what would you remove?

soul_knightmare on Fiendish Tendencies

2 years ago

Heya, I see that your deck is mostly lacking in card draw/ card acceleration. You have about 3 while most decks need 10+. Remove Costly Plunder for Night's Whisper so you don't have to sacrifice your demons. Remove Feaster of Fools, Spirit of the Night, Bladebrand, Grasp of Darkness, and You Are Already Dead (I know the meme), and add Dream Devourer, Bloodgift Demon, Herald of Slaanesh, Phyrexian Arena, Blasphemous Act, and Rakdos Charm.

I hope this helps your deck building. Other upgrades would mean removing Ecologist's Terrarium, Lightning Bolt, Grasp of Darkness, Warp Artifact, Insult / Injury, Price of Betrayal, Skulltap, Witch's Vengeance, Blight, and Inevitable End which are okay, but could be improved. Pick more cards that draw cards without condition or ramp on two mana, Wish you the best!

EnbyGolem on Dead and Back Again, A Necromancer's Tale

3 years ago

Have you considered running Urborg Justice? An instant speed Grave Pact-like effect can really catch your opponents off guard. Since they don't see it coming, they are much more likely to commit to their board.

If you do end up running it, I would try replacing it with one of your more conditional spot removals like Grasp of Darkness, Dismember, Defile, etc. Good luck!

Pheardemons on That is the most Rakdos way to win

4 years ago

zapyourtumor my friend was playing Soulflayer and he would delve Zetalpa and I simply lost whenever that happened. Grasp of Darkness is a thought, but normally he would have hexproof on it as well. Again, it is there for now but obviously I need to adjust according to whatever the meta may come to.

Murderous Rider was there as a catch all for later games since Fatal Push can't hit anything past 5, but it would be taken out. There may be an adjustment with how many Light Up the Stage s I play, with Murderous Rider and whatnot. Something to think about. Thanks for the thought!

Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger is another one that I'm going to play when I can find a foil Japanese Extended art, or have the money to afford it. Another way to help with grindy games.

Honestly, Dreadhorde Butcher is a potential as well. But his ability to just take over games cannot be denied. Plus, he's probably one of my favorite cards in Pioneer. It is RARE that I don't like to see him. He can be a serious clock. However, he isn't as synergetic as some of the other cards.

zapyourtumor on That is the most Rakdos way to win

4 years ago

For cards to take out, maybe the Murderous Riders. I'm not really sure since the list is pretty tight.

What kind of indestructible creatures are you encountering? If they are 3 or less cmc you could steal them, but if they are larger I think edict effects might be a better answer, or maybe even Grasp of Darkness / Vraska's Contempt / Baleful Mastery .

Neotrup on If I have 27 life …

4 years ago

Alternatively, they can attempt to make the creature smaller in some other way to make you gain less life. If they cast Grasp of Darkness to make the cleric a -1/-1 it'll die and you won't gain any life (if it dies to something else like Fatal Push you'll gain life equal to the toughness it had when it died).

jbgrv on EDH Removal Master List

4 years ago

This is really great list! Please keep updating.

Some of cards I found missing:

Black Eliminate , Grasp of Darkness , Feed the Swarm - oh yes, black can now destroy enchantments! Blue Ravenform - oh yes, blue can now EXILE ceatures or artifacts! White Angelic Edict , Cleansing Nova , Ondu Inversion  Flip, Doomskar Green Viridian Shaman , Thrashing Brontodon . Fight effects of Gargos, Vicious Watcher , Territorial Allosaurus , Primal Might , Ram Through Red Shatterskull Smashing  Flip and what about enrage effects from Silverclad Ferocidons or damage from Needletooth Raptor or Burning Sun's Avatar ?

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