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1, Tap: Scry 2. (To scry 2, look at the top two cards of your library, then put any number of them on the bottom of your library and the rest on top in any order.)
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Crystal Ball Discussion
1 month ago
Mana Crypt Show
Wayfarer's Bauble is a good ramp option. I'd say it's strictly better than any of the generic 3CMC mana rocks like Manalith and Darksteel Ingot just because it's permanent land ramp. But the deck has no space for further ramp cards, and I certainly wouldn't use it over Mana Crypt.
Tithe is an okay land fetch card. I already have Eternal Dragon in the deck that performs the same task, but with the added benefit of not requiring coloured mana and being a 5/5 flier for the late game.
Sensei's Divining Top Show
As for refreshing the top of my library, there are currently fifteen cards in this deck that shuffle, with four of them repeatable by themselves.
Crucible of Worlds is a fine card, just not for this deck. I do have quite the number of utility lands, but they're not the main focus of the deck. I feel Sun Titan and Petrified Field are sufficient enough to bring back destroyed utility lands and have no need for a third land recursion card.
Day of Judgment & Wrath of God Show
Rout is a sweeper better suited for control decks. I infrequently have 7 mana open for a single spell. I'm always doing things with my mana.
The "choose one and sacrifice the rest" style of sweepers is something I don't want too many of. I've been burnt in the past by overloading on them and I don't want to make that mistake again. They will also never remove a permanent type if it's the only one that player controls. Something a straight, clean sweeper will always do.
Divine Reckoning doesn't have the benefits the other sweepers of this style have by hitting all nonland permanents, though is still a good option for metas heavy on token decks.
Tragic Arrogance is probably the first sweeper I would consider if I ever had to replace one, but for now it isn't needed.
Grasp of Fate & Angel of Sanctions Show
I ideally can't have my Commander to take out a Planeswalker and reduce their clock against an opponent. That extra turn could give them the opportunity they needed to turn the tables. In situations where I'm set back, the plethora of utility dorks my creature base is made of don't have the raw power to punch a Planeswalker to death in one attack. The better Planeswalkers are also quite adept at protecting themselves with blockers or their controller have ample defenses set up beforehand. Sometimes combat just isn't feasible for quickly killing a Planeswalker.
Aura of Silence's taxing ability becomes increasingly less effecting the longer the game goes. I've used it before and eventually replaced it.
Karmic Guide was in the deck before and I dropped it, as I didn't need so much creature recursion. I'm even recently having thoughts about Reveillark's role in the deck given the versatility of Sun Titan and the easy access to Sword of Light and Shadow this deck has.
Serra Ascendant & Transcendent Master Show
Transcendent Master is, above all other reasons, is in the deck because it's a Pet Card. It's slow and would be ineffective if I was ever in a competitive meta, but I adore the card too much to ever let it go. That's not to say it's bad. An indestructible, lifelinking 9/9 will give any deck a hard time.
Wall of Reverence is not what this deck wants. I like to think that every creature has the potential to be a threat with Equipment. A defender can't do anything. And if I ever need an efficient blocker, I can slap Godsend on something.
Gisela, the Broken Blade and Baneslayer Angel are both just big beaters. Serra Ascendant and Transcendent Master trumps them both by being both bigger and cheaper. Keywords can always come from Equipment.
1 month ago
Kitchen Table? Where'd you get that name from? ;)
1 month ago
Thank you for sharing your great deck. I am a long time follower and I love this deck, because it plays the kind of magic which I enjoy the most: Artifacts and a mono-white build. Let's face it: mono white is the single-worst color in Commander. However, your deck is powerful with strong synergies and a flavourful theme, without swingy, game-ending cards and combos. I am taking a break from competitive commander, because it does not fit for me. There are other formats that do that for me. Therefore, I am strongly considering building a mono-white attrition deck for a more casual meta.
I would love to hear your thoughts on some cards.
Mana Crypt it is amazing, but it can do a lot of damage to you (1.5 a turn on average). It is great for decks that try to win fast. I think its probably fine to add it here since you have lifegain but I feel like you are a little slow to try to push for the win. The damage can add up quickly, especially when you aren't lucky with the random results.
Wayfarer's Bauble is solid land ramp. I would rather have lands in play than a mana stone as they tend to get blown up. It's cheap to use and doesnt leave you with a target for things like Austere Command. It also lets you ramp into a turn 3 Balan, Wandering Knight.
Tithe is instant speed and let's you dropping lands when you fall behind.
Sensei's Divining Top I have started seeing this card a bit less as a staple for every deck.Card selection is always amazing and the more often you can refresh your selection the better this card becomes. It is amazing when you can manage to shuffle once per turn. This means that every turn, you get access to the best of three cards as your draw. It is great for trigger Miracle, like Terminus, even in your opponents turn. However, you don't have a lot ways to shuffle your deck to filter off the bad cards.
Crystal Ball is topdeck manipulation where you dig into the cards you want or need. Whithout many shuffle effects it can make a nice addition.
Mind's Eye is one of the more powerful actual card draw effects available to mono white. It does not provide topdeck manipulation and it consumes a lot of mana. It is no Consecrated Sphinx and it may sit for a round until it provides value. However, it is very reliable card draw, especially if not answered quickly.
Crucible of Worlds is a good backup plan for your many utility lands. It turns Inventors' Fair into an engine. You already run Buried Ruin and Petrified Field which make this setup hard to disrupt. Personally I like including fetchlands if you are going to include this card just to expand what you can do with it. In mono color I tend to not run fetchlands. With Crucible I would consider fetchlands so I tend to have more shuffling, also for Sensei's Top.
Rout can wrath the board at instant speed as a nice surprise option.
Tragic Arrogance and Divine Reckoning work good with your voltron strategy. Keep your best creature and equipment and destroy the rest. Tragic Arrogance can also handle Indestructible and Hexproof, which is a great benefit.
Hallowed Burial Generally speaking I find it hard ever wanting to miracle Terminus. It can be nice with topdeck manipulation especially with Sensei's Divining Top, but I have also concerns with that card. Overall, I feel like the cheaper overall mana cost of Hallowed Burial could be a bit more solid than the random situations where you can profitably miracle cast Terminus.
Grasp of Fate and Angel of Sanctions are both efficient and versatile removal options. Your opponents will typically answer them quickly to get their cards back. I see it more like tempo cards, if you want to push for the win.
Ray of Distortion is costly, but I think it's an underplayed card. Instant speed two-for-one removal is not too bad in my book.
Serra Ascendant is more aggressive and looking for swords. It's a nice and cheap beater.People get really pissed off when they see this on turn one and it usually leads to the whole table running you over first. Anyway, after clubbing a single opponent to under half life people start stabilizing and then you will turn the game into archenemy.
Transcendent Master Not really sure what to say. I think it's a very flavourful option and he gives you something to dump mana into. He can carry equipment and scales well into the late game. On the other hand he is very slow and everybody at the table will see it coming.
Wall of Reverence acts as an amazing blocker paired with its lifegain it grants some great sustainability. You don't need to attack to gain life, which makes it great in more situations against decks that push hard on life. You also get the life end of your turn which can make a differnce.
Gisela, the Broken Blade comes down early, has evasion and lifelink. She's an efficient beater.
2 months ago
I personally see this in a Lantern lock kind of deck. You control the top of your opponents deck keeping them from drawing anything. Then Mana Severance to win.
2 months ago
I know you're not going to take my advice, but if you wanted to make this deck something that could actually work, I'd do this:
2 months ago
Against what popular deck, do you fear giving basic lands would create problems?
I have hard time coming up with modern decks that get out of hand, by getting 1 more land - maybe scapeshift, or ponza could have use for an extra basic, or forest belcher. But these decks are rarely played.
Most decks in modern don't need more than 4 lands to be perfectly functional.
Aggressive lists don't have much use for them, graveyard strategies don't have use for them, tron doesn't get much out of tutoring out an extra forest.
On the upside its the best removal one can get. If it hits something that card won't come up again. Neither from the game, nor from the library - which is a pretty plausible event with a control deck that shuffles threats back into the opponent's library, while it has to draw 1 of 3 cards to win the game.
Going through half of your library before finding your 1st Entreat the Angels is a pretty realistic possibility. At the same time the opponent is also digging through their library, fetching out all of his/her lands, and there are good chances that he/she will draw into the reshuffled threat.
(And Path to Exile + Snapcaster Mage can be done on turn 3, while Banishing Stroke + Snapcaster Mage can't happen before turn 8.....)
Regarding Nissa, Steward of Elements & Crystal Ball:
Nissa, Steward of Elements is a planeswalker, hence:
+ She has 3 abilities, only 1 of which is scrying - but i have hard time seeing how anything short of ultimating her twice would produce results (outside being a pretty nice scry engine)
- She can be attacked by creatures, thus the wast majority of the format has maindeck answers to her.
- She can only scry at sorcery speed, making Counterbalance impotent.
Crystal Ball is an artifact, thus:
+ Its ability can be used at instant speed, allowing you to scry to counter with Counterbalance
+ If you use it during upkeep you can draw the second card from your library leaving the correct cmc card on top.
+ Its good in multiples
- Its activation costs
- Nearly every modern deck pack artifact removal (luckily they are 1 or 2 cmc, thus the assembled Counterbalance + Crystal Ball has good chances of defending itself)
And Counterbalance is good, even if it can't counter EVERYTHING, only countering a large part of the opponents deck is pretty good (from a single card on the field). There is nothing stopping you from playing normal counters to prevent stuff that goes past the pesky enchantment. However Tron will be a problem - but i don't know a lot of other decks that have so warped mana curves.
I am baffled by some of your card choices, don't take this as an attack, i am really curious about the "why".
So what are your plans with those 8 creatures, Temporal Masterys, & Reclaims?
Do you plan to use Azorius Charm as removal?
2 months ago
Well if no one else mentions it i will...
Scry effects tend to only reach the shallow top of the deck in modern, while cards that don't allow you to "put on the bottom of your library" di a lot deeper.
Cards like Index, Sage of Epityr are both pretty good cards.
They are as good as scrying, if you have a good number of fetch lands in the deck since you will get what you need from your stacked deck, then shuffle away the rest - the drawback is that too much fetch lands will make you trade between shuffling away wanted cards or playing lands on curve.
Is there a reason why no one mentions Counterbalance?
We have SOME pseudo Sensei's Divining Tops, like Crystal Ball, Hedron Alignment, Riddleform, Darksteel Pendant, Seer's Lantern, Descendant of Soramaro.Its worth it if we are able to float a 1 and a 2 cmc card on the top 3. that allows countering most removal and hate cards (not to mention dealing with stuff like affinity) - and wins counter wars by countering the cheap counters the opponent plays.
In my humble opinion Crystal Ball > Nissa, Steward of Elements, since it allows tinkering with the library at instant speed, thus facilitates Counterbalance.
And any and all instant speed scry AND DRAW effects are really potent with miracles - cards like Condescend are worth casting for X=0
3 months ago
Thanks F3A5t! You're right, I also realized this a few days ago so I decided to take them out. I thinking about adding Sylvan Tutor, Congregation at Dawn, and a bunch of artifacts that enable scrying. Can you think of any? So far all I can think of are the scry dual lands, Crystal Ball, Darksteel Pendant, Lifecrafter's Bestiary, and Seer's Lantern.