Land Destruction Sideboard

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Posted on July 20, 2019, 3:19 p.m. by Sarkhan420X

Tron and Amulet Titan are probably the best (and most obnoxious to play against) decks at my LGS. so I decided to build Gruul Land Destruction to beat them. sure there are other ways to beat them, but I already own most of the cards, and the deck should still have a fair matchup against everything else as well. everyone needs lands.

for reference, heres the deck



my main issue here is the sideboard, where i'll need to have cards that can combat things besides just Tron and Amulet Titan. other decks i know see play at my LGS include Grixis Shadow, Devoted Vizier, Burn, Humans, and Hardened Modular.

I'm so confused. Did you make a new deck with the same decklist and description as your old deck, and then make a new forum post with the same text as your post from yesterday?

July 20, 2019 3:22 p.m.

Sarkhan420X says... #3

ToolmasterOfBrainerd: yeah but i was pretty much forced to. i had to delete and repost the same deck due to ignorant comments on the first one, which meant the deck link in the previous forum post no longer works. i wanted sideboard feedback but instead people chose to berate and attack me over mainboard choices i made.

July 20, 2019 3:32 p.m.

Ouch. Sorry to hear that. I'd look at some of clayperce's decks for help with land destruction. He's the resident Ponza expert.

You can also block users you had trouble with and delete the comments from your deck, but I'm not actually sure if comment deletion works

July 20, 2019 4:23 p.m. Edited.

pizzagod13 says... #5

What about Crumble to Dust ? Gets rid of all of their Tron lands of one type. They can never again get tron

July 20, 2019 5:18 p.m.

pizzagod13 says... #6

Also just notified your not playing stuff like Ghost Quarter and other such options. They can hit a tron land in a pinch. Additionally they often can work the same as a Strip Mine in some match ups.

July 20, 2019 5:19 p.m.

pizzagod13 says... #7

Also sorry for triple posting like a dumb-dumb but Surgical Extraction is another option that works well against graveyard decks. These decks often don’t need many lands so grave hate is helpful.

Additionally if you blow up a tron land then extract it, they can never get tron again.

July 20, 2019 5:22 p.m.

clayperce says... #8

ToolmasterOfBrainerd,
Thanks much for the shout-out. Unfortunately, Sarkhan420X isn't listening ... my "ignorant comments" (on the manabase, Shivan Wumpus , and the amount of LD in the 75) were some of the ones they got all excited about :-D

July 20, 2019 5:56 p.m.

VaultSkirge says... #9

July 20, 2019 7:11 p.m.

Sarkhan420X says... #10

VaultSkirge: unfortunately, stuff like Anger of the Gods would kill some of my own creatures as well.

pizzagod13: Crumble to Dust does pretty much force tron players to scoop, but unfortunately thats the only deck its useful against, and i'm not sure its worth the sideboard space when i already have tons of other mainboard land destruction spells. Surgical Extraction is quite good, but also $50. i'm confused why so many people keep mentioning that "some decks don't need a lot of lands" as if thats a point "against" land destruction, when really its in land destructions favor. if a deck doesn't need many lands, it also won't "have" many lands. this greatly increases the chances that i'll have more LD spells than they have lands, in which case i win. Ghost Quarter is good, but i don't think i can afford lands that don't produce colored mana. i need to ensure i get forests for Arbor Elf and Utopia Sprawl , and also have double red for Pillage . otherwise i'd run a Kessig Wolf Run or 2.

July 21, 2019 4:58 p.m.

pizzagod13 says... #11

By not have many lands I meant that they don’t play many basics, not the actual number of total lands they play. This means that if you Ghost Quarter then it can often be like a Strip Mine , one of the best lands of all time. But yeah I get that you might not have space for them.

Also Extirpate does the same thing as surgical but it is naturally much worse and you would need to change your mana to accommodate for it. It’s a option to consider.

Otherwise, packing random graveyard for sideboards is usually a good idea anyway.

July 22, 2019 1:01 p.m.

pizzagod13 says... #12

Also what I imagine most people mean by decks not needing many lands is stuff like dredge where it really only needs one land to win. So even if you blow up their lands they can just play another one and win anyway (if they already have a dredge card on the graveyard they might not even need any lands to win!)

That is what I imagine most people mean when they say that. And while I used dredge as an example their are many decks that don’t particularly need many lands.

July 22, 2019 1:05 p.m.

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