Rising Waters

Enchantment

Lands don't untap during their controllers' untap steps.

At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player untaps a land he or she controls.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Premodern	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (50)

BlondieN8 on Mindskinning and Deck Thinning

1 month ago

DreadKhan, first of all, I must compliment on your detailed response that many users tend leave out. Allow me to answer your deck concerns with the following:

1. Inquisitor's Flail (IF), I have thought about this artifact, but decided to cut it in earlier drafts due to more counterspells. Later on, I may incorperate "IF" into the deck depending on my card draw functions.

2. Propaganda (P) & Fatespinner (FS), are both wonderful suggestions Crawlspace was intended to be a cheap hate card, enabling the preservation of mana for counterspells—"P" may take triumph and take it's place. "FS" would be an interesting card added into the mix. I would need a some time to tinker around with new cards. MTG has taken a little backseat while I work on studies.

3. Resculpt, will not be added to this deck due to the playstyle around counter spells. I tried to keep my curve low enough to allow room for counterspells on problematic itmes. If all else fails with the counters, I can always bump up a commanders tax over and over.

4. Dress Down (DD), does have an interesting ability, but It would involve removing another hate card or counterspell. "DD" has potential so I will add it into the maybe list for later tinkering.

5. Sunder (S), Static Orb (SO), and Rising Waters (RW). To start, "S" is already above the curve and not particularly impressive compared to other high-costing cards. "S"' is detrimental to our board, especially regarding mana artifacts and creatures with tap abilities. While I might consider "SO" eventually, it will not be included at this time. As for "RW," I already have several hate cards that do not cause self-harm. My current land hate cards include Winter Moon, Back to Basics, Field of Ruin, Ghost Quarter, Strip Mine, and Wasteland. "RW" also inpacts my own ability to cast counterspells. This is also closely related to lack of self-mill cards fund in this deck. Every card has been chosen to benefit me whilst disrupting opponents.

6. Jace is used for card drawing and moving opponents' cards from the top. I have also included Jace as another permanent for players to worry about, but with your comment, I may consider switching it out.

Thanks again for your help; if you have any additional suggestions or concerns, feel free to comment. Changes to this deck will come eventually.

DreadKhan on Mindskinning and Deck Thinning

1 month ago

I really like the idea of making mill work in cEDH... I hate being milled in cEDH, I will never forget losing games that would have been cake walks because some key card was milled (and it wasn't even vs dedicated mill decks, just one off mill for 4 lol), it's not supposed to be good but cEDH decks are so overwhelmingly greedy that something like that can spoke their wheel and cost them the game. Looking at this list makes me feel like not playing Tasha's Hideous Laughter in any blue cEDH list is a mistake, it's really hard to get stuff back from exile and it requires nothing

This is probably not a great suggestion, but maybe it's an 'okay' one... have you ever thought about Inquisitor's Flail? Double mill from your Commander for only 4 mana isn't THAT steep, especially if you pay it over 2 turns, and nobody is ever blocking your Commander so the drawback shouldn't matter.

YMMV but IMHO in cEDH I'd rather resolve a Propaganda than a Crawlspace, if only because people sometimes play Abrade and can then swarm you to death. Most colours are bad at removing Enchantments, but only Black is terrible at blowing up artifacts. I feel like you should also look really hard at Fatespinner, this is an incredibly frustrating Stax effect in mono-Blue, and slowing the game down gives your Commander time to do the thing.

I'm not sure if Resculpt is good or bad in here (a 4/4 is reasonably big), but your Commander is unblockable and with it you can remove an artifact that's really bad for you, OR just exile a problem creature.

What do you think of Dress Down? A lot of things care about creature text, and while turning all of yours off could be bad, it can prevent you from losing the game to a variety of creature based things.

Probably my weirdest idea, would Sunder work in here? The idea is you play it after you're set up to give you a few turns grace while everyone else runs around like headless chickens, I would expect even a couple swings while people try to rebuild could be enough. There is also Static Orb, I feel like as long as you are swinging with your Commmander you don't need to do anything else to gain immense advantage. If Sunder is too much mana you could try Rising Waters maybe, it's only 4 to really slow things down?

If you want to cut something, is there a real plan for Jace, the Mind Sculptor? He's pretty nasty in 1v1, but in a 4 player game I feel like he's too small of an effect for that much mana.

DreadKhan on Adding brackets to commander decks

2 months ago

I can see not counting stax like Meekstone atm, but 'mass land denial' is probably supposed to include fun stuff like Stasis and Static Orb (also Winter Orb and Rising Waters, maybe Mana Web, but I don't know about stuff like Choke atm, or Omen of Fire). I've heard 'affects 4 or more lands' as the gold standard, hence me not being certain if 'targeted' land hate (vs a single colour's Basics) should count.

Apologies (and thanks) if you're already working on it!

KrazyKreg on Top Gun

1 year ago

Rising Waters Hokori, Dust Drinker Winter Orb all seem very punishing

DreadKhan on Need help ruining a combo players day

1 year ago

Thorn of Amethyst, Glowrider, Sphere of Resistance, Vryn Wingmare, and Eidolon of Rhetoric all exist, but I'm guessing they didn't make the cut?

Retribution of the Meek might be a reasonable wipe with so many smaller creatures, ditto Elspeth, Sun's Champion. If a wipe is one sided it's not just resetting the board, not sure how many of these you're willing to run. Elspeth makes a small army, much better at blocking than the Samurai from Wanderer fwiw, but Wanderer is really strong too. Smothering Tithe is great with Stasis out, Brago, King Eternal might be fun too. If people are running obnoxious stuff, you could run Enlightened Tutor to find your Stasis/Tithe cards as needed, Muddle the Mixture can find both Stasis or Brave the Sands, while also being a counterspell. If you like Stasis, you could also try Static Orb, Meekstone, Crackdown or even Winter Orb/Rising Waters, not sure how hostile you want to be but Stasis is harsher than these. How often do you cast Approach of the Second Sun in here? I ask because there are a lot of tax effects, but if it's not trouble have you thought about running some tutors to find it? The best ones I can think of are Mystical Tutor, Personal Tutor, and Solve the Equation, they can also find other cards as needed, handy if you need removal, a wipe or a counter.

As for alternatives that can do similar things, you might look at either Zur the Enchanter or Hinata, Dawn-Crowned as alternatives that offer more offensive punch while still offering a solid route to shutting the table down. Zur can dig out enchantments like Rule of Law, Stasis (and Black Market Connections) and various ways to fairly quickly win the game, all while being able to hold up lots of mana for interaction, be it counters or removal. Hinata is another tax effect, but you get access to Red as well, and Red has some interesting additions to the Stax department, you'd definitely want Grand Arbiter in your Hinata deck, and you'd run most of the same cards, but you also have the option of running a bunch of cards that care about Hinata's discount, Hinata makes interaction better, especially if it has multiple targets, the annoying thing for both is that they're much harder to cast than Grand Arbiter, so you'd have to raise your budget to have the same consistency. The big problem with Zur is protecting him. If there are literally specific players you know are a problem you can run either Baral, Chief of Compliance or Talrand, Sky Summoner, Baral is better at playing 'Counter Everything' but Talrand can be just offensively good vs a specific player since he also is generating evasive bodies while interacting with that player's win attempts. The nice thing about he mono-Blue approach is you can just brutalize a player or two while letting the others play a smaller (but more normal) game.

Oh, if those players run specific colours (and nobody else likes them as much) there are old school colour hosers, cards like Karma can make life extremely hard. They exist for all colours, and they were so staggeringly unpopular that the developer stopped printing cards like it.

DreadKhan on Land Engine Go Ptttthhhhbbbbbbtttttt

2 years ago

You could also take a look at Rising Waters, it's more or less Winter Orb #2 but it's way less $$$ for the effect, so you could also test the effect for a bit cheaper.

I like to build some more challenging Commanders, less pushed ones from Legends for example, those decks play more like a Gladiator deck where it's just 100 card singleton because your Commander is objectively weak, but it's always fun to try to find things that the Commander can actually do reasonably well. Some less played Commanders are actually pretty interesting when you can find the right strategy, and it's extra exciting when you pull off a win with the Commander nobody's seen before.

borat-enthusiast on zedruu lock down

3 years ago

Looks cool! Wish I had more advice on cuts, I have been STRUGGLING to keep mine at 100. If I had to name one, I would say keeping Paradox Haze and scrapping Teferi's Ageless Insight. It's lower CMC, most of your draw is from Zedruu so it's basically the doubling effect, and there's a slight parity break with Rising Waters, you'll untap 1 extra land. But sweet deck, might have to pop back in periodically to get some inspiration for mine :D

DawnsRayofLight on Dime-store Derevi (Competitive, Budget $100!!)

3 years ago

In a stereotypical condescending Comic book guy voice

Umm, excuse me, this isn't below 100 and is therefore not "budget."

All jokes aside, anyone could put this together cheaply, most people have some of the more "expensive" cards anyways.

It is fairly solid, I have been thinking of building something similar (Birb Goes Brrrrrrrrrrrr)

You could probably fit in some Winter Orb Like cards like Hokori, Dust Drinker and Rising Waters

I wish I had seen this deck sooner as I could have used it as a spring board for the Derevi list I have been wanting to build. I really like this list.