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Kraken Hatchling
Creature — Kraken
Defied-27 on Deep Blue Depths
2 years ago
I guess you could run Call to the Kindred combined with something cheap like Kraken Hatchling to get your wobbly boys onto the battlefield, but it‘s a bit slow… just an idea :)
Neotrup on Can Kiora, the tide's fury …
3 years ago
I believe Kiora, the Tide's Fury allows you to conjure Kraken Hatchlings beyond the 1-of/4-of limit in Historic Brawl/Historic. That said, she cannot be played in Commander due to only existing on Arena, which uses the Historic Brawl format that's similar to Commander. The word "Conjure" does not appear in the Comprehensive Rules for Magic: The Gathering and has no meaning outside of Magic: Arena, so how exactly it would work if you mocked up a copy of the card and your friends let you play it is up to you and your friends. The two most relevant rules are Rule 11 for Commander, and Rule 903.11 from the Comprehensive Rules.
10 Parts of abilities which bring other traditional card(s) you own from outside the game into the game (such as Living Wish; Spawnsire of Ulamog; Karn, the Great Creator; Wish) do not function in Commander.
903.11. If a player is allowed to bring a card from outside the game into a Commander game, that player can't bring a card into the game this way if it has the same name as a card that player had in their starting deck, if it has the same name as a card that the player owns in the current game, or if any color in its color identity isn't in the color identity of the player’s commander
These rules are a bit at odds with each other as one says you can't bring cards in at all and the other says you can, but are still limited to the 1-of rule. That said, Conjure doesn't behave exactly the same as a wish, so ultimately it would just be up to the play group how to interpret it.
FatFreddiesCat on Can Kiora, the tide's fury …
3 years ago
Can I conjure a Kraken Hatchling using Kiora in Commander, or does that violate the 100-card rule?
Bob
AnonymouSAvatar on arixmethes underwater
4 years ago
Cut Kraken Hatchling , Scattering Stroke , Thassa's Rebuff , Bident of Thassa , Kruphix, God of Horizons and Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx .
Return of the Wildspeaker , Prime Speaker Zegana , Rishkar's Expertise , Rush of Knowledge , Shamanic Revelation , Finale of Revelation , Praetor's Council, Feed , Soul's Majesty , Colossal Majesty , Elemental Bond , Guardian Project are good at drawing cards in this deck.
Your deck wants to ramp heavily, try adding a balance of early game ramp that costs 2-4 CMC and late game ramp that costs 5+ CMC, some good early ramp options include Farseek , Rampant Growth , Grow from the Ashes , Skyshroud Claim , Circuitous Route , Myriad Landscape , Burgeoning , Blighted Woodland . Good late game ramp options are Traverse the Outlands , Boundless Realms . Since your commander is CMC 4 you want any 1 or 2 CMC ramp to get it out on turn 3 at the latest but after that artifact ramp is much more fragile than land ramp so try to avoid it.
Note that Simic Guildgate is a good addition if you include Circuitous Route.
Fierce Empath can tutor any of your giant creatures.
Elvish Piper is another Quicksilver Amulet and Mosswort Bridge is a free addition that can cheat in a lot of big creatures.
Displacement Wave and Inundate are both other synergistic board wipes.
Lurking Predators can make it really scary for opponents to play any spells.
Leyline of Anticipation , Alchemist's Refuge and even Yeva, Nature's Herald are really good since they give your creatures pseudo-haste and protect them from sorcery speed removal for 1 turn.
With enough ramp, X spells can be particularly impactful, Finale of Devastation can search for any creature and it's not hard to get X=10+ to win the game, Genesis Wave is one of the premier green X spells,
Freed from the Real and Pemmin's Aura both create infinite with your commander. It's your choice if you want to include these cards though, they're not for every playgroup and don't fit the theme of your deck.
Here is the gatherer search for sea monsters there are enough of them that you should be able to have all of your sea monsters have some impact on the board, there are also some that might be better than the ones you currently have.
hungry000 on Big Blue Jerks
5 years ago
This is pretty sweet, I never thought of playing Nykthos in a Quest for Ula's Temple deck before! Sage of Epityr is great at setting up your library for the Quest, and Wistful Selkie helps dig for the Quest if you don't have it and gives +3 devotion for Nykthos. Cloudfin Raptor doesn't fit in this deck at all; coincidentally, Sage of Epityr fits perfectly, so there you go ;D
Other than that, I think you need some removal-creatures that give more devotion than what you have currently. Harbinger of the Tides is a pretty useful one, and Merfolk Trickster can fog a creature for a turn. For some disruption against noncreature decks you could also consider playing Judge's Familiar or Mausoleum Wanderer instead of Kraken Hatchling; while it's a Kraken and fits in the theme of the deck, there really isn't much point in cheating out a 1 mana 0/4 with your Quest. I do suppose it can block, though.
Also, I recommend replacing Tromokratis and Shipbreaker Kraken (and maybe 1 Lorthos) with some combination of Stormtide Leviathan and Inkwell Leviathan. They're less easy to hard-cast, but Tromokratis is mostly worse than Inkwell Leviathan in my opinion, and while Kraken's ability is okay, Stormtide Leviathan is even better at keeping your opponent's creatures at bay. (that rhymed) From my experience playing Whale tribal, Stormtide Leviathan and Scourge of Fleets can completely take control of games when used together.
TheVectornaut on Dastardly Designs #1: Nautical Nonsense
6 years ago
I'd love to play a crabmander deck.
Tidal Totem is a really interesting design, but I wonder if kraken should be included. Aside from maybe Kraken Hatchling, I find it hard to imagine any of the colossal kraken hanging around tidal regions even at high tide. Kraken also have a fair amount of support already, and I guess octopus do as well. Anyway, I was thinking Homarid would be a great alternative type. Like crabs, these crustaceans could really use some support. Maybe WOTC thinks so too since Homarid Explorer was just released.
Loyaldingo on Don Quixote
6 years ago
First off the pun, though grammatically inaccurate, is terrific. Second, I suggest that you switch out Kraken Hatchling for four copies of Ludevic's Test Subject Flip or Gomazoa due to their synergy with Doorkeeper.
Skjoldschoennemann on A Caravan of Camel Bois
6 years ago
I Don't know if it ruins the consistency, but have you considered splashing blue for Kraken Hatchling and Sidisi's Faithful?
Maybe even black for Disowned Ancestor. Going into other colors also allows you to play God-Pharaoh's Faithful.
I would also suggest Perimeter Captain in the sideboard against decks that are more aggressive than yours (I know there is few).