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You may sacrifice a Mountain rather than pay Downhill Charge's mana cost.
Target creature gets +X/+0 until end of turn, where X is the number of Mountains you control.
Downhill Charge Discussion
2 months ago
Anyone have an idea for those 3 ? I'm trying to brainstorm out loud...
3 months ago
All of these cards work well when you are running basically just mountains, running blue splits their power, and using non basics reduces their effectiveness even further. Downhill Charge , Granite Grip , and Seismic Strike .
These cards are ok, but don’t really work with your primary concept. Titan's Strength I like this for the scry, and if it drew a card it’d be fine, but as a combat trick it’s pretty meh. Kavu Scout is at most a 2/2 for two in this deck. Kraken's Eye is pretty passive life gain, but it’s not going to win the game for you, and it is pretty unlikely to save you too (it does improve with some of the buy back spells I list later). The problem with Akroan Crusader is that if we cut the combat tricks this card becomes way weaker, and even with the tricks, it’s not got a high likelihood of having both at the same time. Why would we run that when we can run cards like Crackling Drake ?
Strider Harness is good, but it is over costed for what it does.
Whisk Away I’m not loving this card, it is alright. It’s just low bang for the buck.
As for some cards that might help things, the issue I see is that your plan has a lot of draw, and some control, but not a lot of ways to win. As it is your commander is basically the only way you have of making use of the draw, out side of trying to win with Jace. Winning with Jace is gonna be tough cause you have to draw him, and then mill through your deck, it is possible just hard. So most of the suggestions are cards that work well with casting a lot of draw spells, or removal. This makes your plan of drawing a lot of cards do something other than drawing a lot of cards. Just like your commander they are all going to do something when you draw, or cast a spell. Talrand, Sky Summoner , Saheeli, Sublime Artificer , Murmuring Mystic , Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind , Guttersnipe , and Psychosis Crawler are all great for your deck.
Swarm Intelligence is great for casting a lot of spells.
A thing that might happen is running out of gas. So cards that give repeated use like flashback and buy back are huge. They mean you’ll always have something to do, and offer more value because of your cards that trigger on spell cast, or card draw. Some good examples include Mystic Retrieval , Fanning the Flames , Whispers of the Muse , Shattering Pulse , and though it is a little bit more expensive Capsize which is incredibly powerful and super annoying for other people to deal with if they can’t outright counter it.
AEtherize is just a super good card for the deck.
Your deck should basically just draw a whole lot of cards, and having the mana to play them is super important. I’d likely look at increasing the number of mana rocks (artifacts that make mana) in there, and making sure that you’re never hurting for your second color. Some solid suggestions for that are Izzet Signet , Izzet Cluestone , Commander's Sphere , Izzet Boilerworks , Terramorphic Expanse , Desolate Lighthouse , and Memorial to Genius is just great for your draw plan.
6 months ago
In line with the OTKO strategy, you want to pump up your Boss and hit opponents for at least 21 points of commander damage. What this means, is that anything that grants less than +5 to it's power will not make the cut. Some suggestions:
Xenagos, God of Revels - Crazy synergy with your Boss and curves out really well. Drop Xenagos, cast your Boss in the following turns and have it grant haste and +6/+6 to your Boss, swing in for 24 Commander Damage!
Downhill Charge / Blazing Shoal - Free pump spells are great, especially since the CMC for your dragons are on the high side. You'd have plenty of "fat CMC" spells in your hand to remove for Shoal as well.
Surge of Strength - A hidden gem that is easily overlooked. It'll buff your Boss by +7/+0, making him hit for 26 commander damage if unblocked!
Rush of Blood - Simple but effective.
Mirrorwing Dragon is a fun and "win more" card since you usually don't have sufficient creatures to benefit from the "cascading buffs" the dragon offers.
1 year ago
I wrote you a huge, detailed comment... then my computer crashed and erased what I'd written >.< Given that, I'm going to write it out as essentially bullet points and if you have any questions or want clarification, I can give more detailed thoughts :)
Let's start with the landbase. I'd cut down until you mostly have Mountains, and rebuild from there. Lands you may have missed: City of Shadows, Safe Haven, Command Beacon, Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx. Lands I'd definitely cut: Desert of the Fervent, Field of Ruin, Forbidden Orchard, Forgotten Cave, Homeward Path (your opponents will get the Survivors back...), Temple of the False God, and possibly Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle. I'd run as many basics as possible, then play Ruination, Extraplanar Lens, etc.
Beyond that, I still don't see Blades of Velis Vel! ;) I'd also run Mana Crypt, if you can fit it in the budget (T1 commander seems GOOD for this deck). I am a huge fan of Mana Geyser in mono-red, as well as some free pump spells for Varchild (such as Blazing Shoal and Downhill Charge). You could also devour all of your Survivors to Descent of the Dragons...heh. Perhaps Conjurer's Closet to steal Survivors every turn?
I hope this helps! :)
1 year ago
Cool deck, it's definitely a different strategy. It's a question of going a little wider and drawing a bunch, or going more all in on one creature. I don't know which strategy is better overall, but if I'm given the choice I would like to pay 18 life to attack with a 10/1 trample double strike on turn 3 (personal preference). Manamorphose would be an all star in your deck, I highly recommend it if you can afford the price tag.
Renegade Tactics and Crash Through don't trigger any of my creatures except Kiln Fiend. Maybe Expedite and Crimson Wisps are playable, but they sound worse than Reckless Charge. I like Downhill Charge as a free effect that scales up in case the game goes long, but I don't think it makes the cut over any of the pump already here. Flame Slash sounds pretty good, but I've been finding my creatures are outclassing the opponent's in combat by a significant margin anyway. And if they aren't blocking, then I generally like my odds on winning the race. Although I have been looking for a different sideboard card to try out, and these Electrickerys are 8% of the cost of the deck. I'll give 2 copies a run.
1 year ago
Hello! I saw your post in the MTG EDH COMMANDER group.
This is my Zada list (with a linked budget version):
Commander / EDH
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I've had a great deal of success with this list (although it can be fragile). I know it's significantly less budget than your list, but it still might have some good pointers for you :)
Particularly, in terms of pump spells, I'd add Downhill Charge and Blazing Shoal. Otherworldly Outburst is good boardwipe protection stapled to a marginal power boost. You could also use as much ramp as you can get your hands on, such as Iron Myr, Mana Geyser, Ruby Medallion, etc. You could probably cut most of your 3-mana rocks and replace them with 2-mana rocks (such as Fellwar Stone, Coldsteel Heart, etc) so that you can cast Zada T3 if needed :) Other than that, depending on meta, you could play effects like Ruination or Price of Progress to take advantage of your reliance on basic lands. Hope that helps!
2 years ago
You might also consider Titan's Strength to scry away a ton of cards you don't want to draw so you can set up a wincon faster. Team pump is also excellent, and all for one mana.
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