Stoic Rebuttal

Stoic Rebuttal

Instant

Metalcraft — Stoic Rebuttal costs {{1}} less to cast if you control three or more artifacts.

Counter target spell.

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Set Rarity
Modern Masters 2015 Edition (MM2) Common
Scars of Mirrodin (SOM) Common

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Legality

Format Legality
Modern Legal
Noble Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Unformat Legal
2019-10-04 Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Pauper Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Casual Legal
Vintage Legal
Highlander Legal

Stoic Rebuttal occurrence in decks from the last year

Commander / EDH:

All decks: 0.01%

Stoic Rebuttal Discussion

Joe_Ken_ on Urza artifact commander deck

1 month ago

You’ll probably want to up the land count to 35-36 since that is a much better number of lands to ensure you hit your land drops.

Aetherflow also can’t be in the deck since for Commander you can only have cards that have the same color as your commander and it has a Blue/White mana symbol.

Some good budget cards you can pick up are Reality Shift , Frantic Search , Rewind , Etherium Sculptor , Curse of the Swine , Trophy Mage , Tribute Mage , Sharding Sphinx , Mirrodin Besieged , Thopter Spy Network , Foundry Inspector , Myr Battlesphere , Chief of the Foundry , Stoic Rebuttal , and Manifold Key

jaymc1130 on Emry Forgeworks [cEDH Primer]

2 months ago

Sultai_Sir

For the most part, the combos in Emry Forgeworks are it's engines that generate infinite mana/card draw. The basic functions and components are discussed because they are simple and will see use in a lot of games. I don't think it's all that worthwhile to get into some of the more niche combo set ups that will rarely happen for a couple of reasons: first, half the fun of playing Emry Forgeworks is solving the puzzle of how to assemble a game winning engine combo with the tools a pilot currently has access to, and second, the crazy narrow combos won't be relevant in 95% of games because they often require very specific circumstances to function. I suppose the looping kills could also be considered combos of a sort, and that's why they got descriptions too.

As for a budget build, I can't make specific recommendations without a list to parse over. However, I can make some general recommendations about cards that have some merit in competitive settings that don't break the bank. There are a lot of low cost artifacts out there with sacrifice abilities that can be useful and these types of cards are wonderful Emry synergy pieces. Your spellbombs, lanterns, eggs and other such pieces are capable replacements for some of the more expensive pieces, particularly the expensive card advantage pieces when replaced with cheap card draw on sacrifice artifacts. Some of the combo engines could be cut entirely for a budget build that doesn't expect to be playing against $10k dollar decks on a regular basis, such as the Mystic Top combo that requires Sensei's Divining Top. The deck will still function fine without it even if it will be slightly less consistent or have more difficulty in certain game scenarios. The expensive interaction pieces like Force of Will and Mana Drain can definitely be replaced with more budget friendly options like Stoic Rebuttal. The expensive mana rocks can easily be substituted for with options like Everflowing Chalice or Jeweled Amulet. None of the fetch lands are a requirement for a budget build, and the same goes for some of the luxury lands like Gemstone Caverns and Ancient Tomb. Replacing these cards with some good old Islands is perfectly fine. Just with these types of budget replacements you could easily bring the deck's cost down under $500.

jaymc1130 on Emry Forgeworks [cEDH Primer]

2 months ago

Sultai_Sir

For the most part, the combos in Emry Forgeworks are it's engines that generate infinite mana/card draw. The basic functions and components are discussed because they are simple and will see use in a lot of games. I don't think it's all that worthwhile to get into some of the more niche combo set ups that will rarely happen for a couple of reasons: first, half the fun of playing Emry Forgeworks is solving the puzzle of how to assemble a game winning engine combo with the tools a pilot currently has access to, and second, the crazy narrow combos won't be relevant in 95% of games because they often require very specific circumstances to function. I suppose the looping kills could also be considered combos of a sort, and that's why they got descriptions too.

As for a budget build, I can't make specific recommendations without a list to parse over. However, I can make some general recommendations about cards that have some merit in competitive settings that don't break the bank. There are a lot of low cost artifacts out there with sacrifice abilities that can be useful and these types of cards are wonderful Emry synergy pieces. Your spellbombs, lanterns, eggs and other such pieces are capable replacements for some of the more expensive pieces, particularly the expensive card advantage pieces when replaced with cheap card draw on sacrifice artifacts. Some of the combo engines could be cut entirely for a budget build that doesn't expect to be playing against $10k dollar decks on a regular basis, such as the Mystic Top combo that requires Sensei's Divining Top. The deck will still function fine without it even if it will be slightly less consistent or have more difficulty in certain game scenarios. The expensive interaction pieces like Force of Will and Mana Drain can definitely be replaced with more budget friendly options like Stoic Rebuttal. The expensive mana rocks can easily be substituted for with options like Everflowing Chalice or Jeweled Amulet. None of the fetch lands are a requirement for a budget build, and the same goes for some of the luxury lands like Gemstone Caverns and Ancient Tomb. Replacing these cards with some good old Islands is perfectly fine. Just with these types of budget replacements you could easily bring the deck's cost down under $500.

Gattison on Prague-Rock

6 months ago

Giorgiod: First of all, thanks for your interest, and please let me know how playing the deck works out for you. =D I'd love to get feedback on the deck in a different meta.

As for a sideboard. Tbh, eh not really, lol. I play mostly casual/kitchen table, plus I literally have over 50 pauper decks built so I don't get to play them all as much as they deserve.

That being said, were I to bring this deck to a LGS and play it, I would probably swap Stoic Rebuttal for straight-up Counterspell as Daarkest suggested above, and leave maybe one or more Stoic Rebuttals in the sideboard for counter-wars with other blue decks.

I only have the one copy of Welding Jar or else I'd have more in the deck also, so put some of those in the sideboard too.

Apostle's Blessing is one of the best defense spells in pauper imho, so if you face a lot of removal, there's that.

Echoing Truth is versatile enough to hit any permanent, so kind of a board wipe, but can also get rid of Treasure, Food, etc. depending on what you face.

Beyond that, I usually go very general with my sideboards, so creature removal (Searing Light, Smite, Celestial Flare), artifact removal (Fragmentize, Dispeller's Capsule) and enchantment removal (Demystify). And sometimes you can double up the effects on one card to "save space" in your sideboard, as you can see. =)

Finally, there's always the old trick where you Unsummon/Void Snare something, and then Counterspell it when they try to cast it again.

Hopefully that jumble of ideas provides some help to you! =D Have fun, and let me know how you like the deck and if it needs any major adjustments or whatnot! Thanks!

PeanutCoffee on

9 months ago

I would recomend losing the focus on tap lands and look more at mana rocks/dorks (maybe even some fetches) for color fixing. It will be hard to storm off with only getting one mana a turn. With the Clock of Omens every rock and dork counts as at least 1 and 1/2 mana. Astral Cornucopia and Everflowing Chalice would work well for rocks. For dorks the tried-and-true Hedron Crawler , Silver Myr , Iron Myr , and Plague Myr

Also I would recomend Counterspell over Stoic Rebuttal

For creature you could look at Riddlesmith (to double on draw engine), Artificer's Assistant (to fix drawing and avoid mana flood), and maybe even Mirror Image to copy a creature for a little extra value. ( Mirror of the Forebears would be a better pick over Mirror Image if you have it)

For mana I would do basics over tap lands every day of the week. If you can get cards like Steam Vents that come in untapped more power to you. Mana Severance is a high risk high reward card that would synergize great with storm.

I love the build though, these are just suggestions and ideas. I have over half the decklist in my cart on TCG now! Keep up the good work!!

Ziusdra on Alela - Brawl to EDH Upgrade l The Command Zone

10 months ago

Love the deck tech and this is an archetype I have thought often of, though trying to do both artifacts and enchantments in a three-color format and not restrict your synergies can be tough. You're better off either going full enchantment or full artifact and then you'll be running a more streamlined, combotastic deck by doing so. I think you've gone heavier on the artifact side, or we'd be seeing more enchantment creatures from Theros and the Commander enchantment-creature precon and enchantment removal spells that combo with things like Blightcaster and Grim Guardian (which all combo with enchanting removal like Pacifism and Prison Realm and Dead Weight , etc.). To this artifact-heavy focus, I think Myr Retriever and Workshop Assistant are too redundant and provide only small bodies on the field when there are so many other cards that have this same effect already in the deck here ( Sharuum the Hegemon , Buried Ruin , etc.). Plus, without a sacrifice outlet, Workshop Assistant is definitely not the kind of card you want to be top-decking in situations where you've run out of steam. On the other hand, you may need more card draw rather than grave draw, since you don't self-mill, (especially if you're in a situation where Distant Melody is dead in your hand) and I think Mask of Riddles is an ideal sideboard/budget alternate for this deck. And is Ever-Watching Threshold in the pre-con? It should be. Faerie Mechanist comes to me as a distant budget option (because it only looks at the top 3 cards of your library, it's too limited to be truly useful since this deck also runs so many enchantments and creatures, but it's got tribal, flying, and it is an artifact as such is worth a mention). Finally, if you can make double-black mana work in your casting, Underworld Connections is card advantage that seems to be a staple of commander that also happens to trigger your commander. Sludge Strider can get you that life back on occasions where you have extra mana and are losing artifact creatures or sacrificing artifacts to effects (heck, even Dimir Locket and Orzhov Locket couldn't go wrong as cheap ramp that gets you card draw in the late game and triggers other effects). And take out the Winged Words from the 60-card precon, which gets you nowhere in a 100-card format, and put in at least a Terramorphic Expanse if you don't have access to better quality dual-lands. Campaign of Vengeance and Ethereal Absolution if you're really committed to going wide with your commander (I mean, with Etchings and Ethereal and your commander, you could have at least five or six 4/3 flying faeries threatening to go wider and wider). They could be protected from board wipes by an additional counterspell, like Stoic Rebuttal . I could go on and on, but definitely replace a few of the things in the precon with at least a few of these.

Olsen on

11 months ago

Trying to brew around trinket mage and also trying NOT to make this a copy of other decks. I would like suggestions for minor tweaks. The side board I am unsure about. I added Aura Flux against bogles, Bloodtallow Candle against gurmag, Electrickery for Elves, Relic of Progenitus & Tormod's Crypt against reanimator, Welding Sparks & Bloodtallow Candle against stompy, Spidersilk Net against Delver, and Stoic Rebuttal just because.

SideBae on Memnarch EDH

1 year ago

Congrats on your first EDH deck! Here're my suggestions. Feel free to ignore them if you want.

  1. Training Grounds makes Memnarch into : Steal target permanent. I don't know if it'd be great, but it's certainly worth testing out. It's similar to your Heartstone . Power Artifact is similar, though I think slightly worse and far more expensive.

  2. If you have access to it, Mana Vault is a great card. It is especially powerful if combined with something like Aphetto Alchemist or your Voltaic Key . Basalt Monolith and Manifold Key are two other cards to consider in this vein.

  3. Mana rocks like Sky Diamond , Coldsteel Heart or the soon-to-come-out Arcane Signet are good includes to generate blue mana. Fellwar Stone is a similar rock that generally will produce blue, as blue is the most common color in EDH (and the rest of magic).

  4. Running Vintage Xerox cantrips can be very helpful; this means replacing some lands with low cost draw spells. Running cards like Ponder and Preordain in addition to your Brainstorm will allow you to run thirty-two-ish lands. Impulse , Sleight of Hand and even Serum Visions and Gitaxian Probe are good also, though these aren't AS good as Ponder , Preordain and Brainstorm . Using a Xerox design like this means that you can find lands if you need them, or use the draw spells to avoid getting flooded when you don't.

  5. Pairing Memnarch with Karn, the Great Creator allows you to use your general's first ability to turn off opposing lands. While EDH does not typically have a sideboard, so Karn, the Great Creator 's second ability is usually irrelevant, the one-sided Null Rod effect is probably enough reason to include him.

  6. Narset, Parter of Veils is powerful in any blue deck, especially if paired with a well-timed Windfall . I think most blue decks, and any mono-blue deck, should be running these two cards.

  7. Regarding your lands, Ancient Tomb is at a relatively low price nowadays; I suggest picking one up if you can. I don't think Darksteel Citadel is as good as a basic Island , if only because it gets shut off by opposing Null Rod s, Karn, the Great Creator s, Blood Moon s and Back to basics and does not produce mana. Same with Seat of the Synod , though this one DOES make mana. I get these lands are meant to build metalcraft; see suggestion 15. Inventors' Fair is worth considering because of its tutor effect.

  8. You're already running Clock of Omens . Have you considered Winter Orb or Static Orb ? Tapping the orbs down on your opponent's end step allows you to untap and them not to. Or you could be nice.

  9. Whir of Invention , Reshape and (if you're rich) Transmute Artifact should all be considered. They're excellent artifact-tutors.

  10. Vedalken Archmage is a good way to build card-advantage.

  11. Dispel and Flusterstorm are two good counterspells to consider adding, although the second one isn't super cheap. Cryptic Command is also a pretty penny, but as a cantrip-ing usually-counterspell, it is an excellent card. Spell Pierce and Spell Snare are worth considering as well.

  12. Tezzeret the Seeker ? He's a great 'walker for any artifact deck, and in the non-foil form he's about $20.

  13. If your meta is filled with combo decks (I know mine is), Arcane Laboratory can put a stop to that. Overburden is a good way to slow down elf-decks and other aggro strategies, and Lodestone Golem is just plain good. Back to Basics is awesome in mono-blue decks. Note that some of these stax pieces may disrupt your Isochron Scepter / Dramatic Reversal win.

  14. Mindlock Orb ? If you choose not to follow Suggestion 9, this thing does work.

  15. Unless you're running a bunch of 0-cost artifact rocks, I don't think Stoic Rebuttal is good enough. Metalcraft is really good if you can get it online turn one or two with the help of Mox Opal or Mox Diamond , but if you can't get it online early, you're better off running something like Exclude or Mana Leak . Because the good 0-mana artifacts are about as much money as a half-used kidney, I don't think it's worth pursuing the metalcraft theme.

  16. You don't seem to have a lot of creatures meant for blocking. Propaganda or Meekstone should help with surviving the aggro decks.

  17. I think changing your Island s to Snow-Covered Island s and running Extraplanar Lens is probably better than Caged Sun . It's cheaper mana-wise, which means it can help you ramp out your general faster. (Once you have six mana for Caged Sun , you can almost cast your general anyways.) That being said, I've never been in love with Extraplanar Lens either, and I think just running other mana rocks like Thought Vessel is probably the best rout there.

  18. If you face a lot of graveyard decks like Meren of Clan Nel Toth , consider Relic of Progenitus . It is an artifact that cycles if necessary and provides good graveyard hate.

  19. Consider Sower of Temptation , Treachery or Control Magic . I had a lot of fun with those when I played mono-blue, as they can steal the game right away from an opponent. Similarly, if you have access to Academy Ruins and Mind Slaver , you can end up being two players instead of one.

Alright man, that's all I got for now. I'm sure after I go to bed I'll think of more suggestions, so if you need more help let me know. Good luck and have fun and stuff!

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