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Samut, the Tested
+1: Up to one target creature gains Double Strike until end of turn.
-2: Samut, the Tested deals 2 damage divided as you choose among one or two target creatures and/or players.
-7: Search your library for up to two planeswalker and/or creature cards, put them onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library.
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Samut, the Tested Discussion
1 week ago
@frezzreaper: I'm currently trying to understand where this could be going for the better. Ramp is good, but I never really knew how splash colors work in Magic as a whole. Is it there for more underrated colors? If is such a choice here, maybe it's because of how so few of such things could be of use here as so many ran Atraxa as the CMDR here, & how I really believe what the true Superfriends CMDR would have to be something not released yet at worst. I simply chose Sliver Queen for this. Also, huh. Paradox Engine does nothing here it seems. I'll... just remove the infinite Clockspinning combo from there. Next, you... might have a great point about that. The Walker Base is too out there, & some are better w/ Creatures than anything else. Didn't think of Sphere of the Suns actually... >~< I'll see what I can rework the Rocks, & non-Dork accelerators... I'll also see what's underpowered the worst of my Walkers as well. If you want to help me still; note that I'll NEVER afford Timetwister ever. Though this means I'll have to cut Samut, the Tested as a result. Sadly, the same goes for Vivien Reid. Also, I actually prefer more than 5 board wipes anyway. What is the number of Tutors you didn't mention some time back? I get >=5 Wipes, 10 Accel, & 5 Draw. Aside from all those, I'll take it from here... I'll see what to cut...
4 weeks ago
I'll have to take a look at the deck more in depth, but anytime someone says they want to cheat out creatures in Naya, a few cards come to mind.
Nahiri, the Harbinger obviously for her ultimate.
I'm not sure how well the consistency would work in EDH, but I find a wild amount of success with See the Unwritten in Modern.
Genesis Wave, obviously.
Savage Ventmaw, my #1 favorite Dragon in literally all of Magic :D Seriously, a Dragon who ramps SIX MANA OF TWO COLORS?!? Oof <3
I see you're not running Tribal, but hey you have a decent chunk of your creatures as Angels and Elves, so Descendants' Path may be worth while?
Just spitballing ideas. Maybe something will stick. Otherwise it looks fun :)
1 month ago
Keep in mind Samut, the Tested is no longer Standard legal, however. I do enjoy the premise.
1 month ago
@DrkNinja (That's another deck of yours I need to upvote. XP): OK, you win. Now you made me want to run Sarkhan Unbroken, but what do you think I should cut? Mirari's Wake? A combo piece that's also vital? Or something else entirely? I guess I could cut Ob Nixilis Reignited for him? Samut, the Tested can potentially put 8 walkers at most on the field on the same turn, you know. ;)
2 months ago
Commander / EDH*
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Before we begin, I'd like to apologize for all this, particularly cdkime, who I dunno what his(her?) thoughts would be about this...
For Deck 1: I still wanted this to be cEDH based, even though awhile back, this is a hopeless case. Currently the best are Tier 4, & I still do in fact want to upgrade them up a Tier, like a joke Depala deck, which was stated as Tier 3, but is unable to qualify as such. Also, since most of my stuff will be 3 CMC, I wanted to focus on cards w/ this quality, 4 CMC at worst for Sunforger. That said, I wanted some versatility further w/ stuff that might be worth it. The list of stuff I want to add is incomplete so far, but I'm thinking of changing my commander to deal w/ this, & potentially, remove my burn. Also, I dunno how useful Lone Missionary is, but Priest of Urabrask makes for Endless . Here's hoping I can find the same for Endless in CMC3 Danger Zone (Not sure how good Farrelite Priest is, actually... :/). For the Commander, I wanted something that could work w/ the mass combo, Stax, & even other things. I'm currently aiming for Tajic, Legion's Edge as he has low CMC, and can hit hard & fast. But maybe there are better; but I'm NOT Complying to Depala as She's a Tribal Commander, and fast fact: I'd rather use O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami over Geist of Saint Traft anyway. Think about it, she is 5c, & is Thematic w/ Kamigawa, & can splice the night away, & has colors Spirits have even seeped through...
Any suggestions are welcome; but I'm not scrapping either Deck when I made it this far. I'll find more options later...
Good luck to all! ^_^ Sorry for all this text though...
re:ZERO UPDATE: Finally finished my Superfriends deck. At least until the next set; Ravnica Allegiance... Now, does anybody have any suggestions for my cEDH Boros Deck? I'm open for them...
2 months ago
But to touch a bit more in depth, Wizards accidentally wrote themselves into a corner. They had a Planeswalker for each color who had personal interactions with Nicol Bolas:
- Sarkhan (Red) saw his world get sundered by Bolas and Ugin.
- Ajani (White) has personally fought Bolas and seen the carnage he can unleash.
- Liliana (Black) ... Okay I personally don't know much about her. I know she accidentally killed her brother before her spark ignited, she made a pact with the Demons, killed them, than Bolas basically said "serve me or die"? Something like that
- Tezzeret (Blue) has been working for Bolas, because Bolas saved his life a long time ago.
But there were no Green Planeswalkers who personally had a history with Bolas.
Now, as I have been told, the reason the Planeswalkers in M19 feel weaker than their current versions, particularly Liliana, the Necromancer and Liliana, Untouched By Death is because Core Set 2019's story is sort of more like a prequel, giving us insight into who Bolas was and his battle with Ugin on Tarkir.
I brought this up in a prior thread where I was curious as to why Liliana felt so weak. In terms of set construction, M19 was released after Amonkhet, in which she kills her final Demon - Razaketh, the Foulblooded.
So if Liliana killed the 4th and final Demon, why does she feel so weak?
What was explained to me is that M19's story takes place long before Amonkhet, therefore (According to the timeline), Liliana is still bound by the Demon(s) during the time M19 takes place in.
What this means is that, DURING M19's story, Samut, the Tested would not have been in the story. She may not even have had her spark ignite. Her spark seems to have ignited when Bolas invaded Amonkhet the first time, where he imprisoned three of the Gods, killed the elderly people, and rewrote history. Samut was able to Planeswalk away, and return during Amonkhet, which is why she knows everything is a lie. Her and Bontu the Glorified are the only ones who remember the truth.
Because of this, since M19 takes place BEFORE the invasion / destruction of Amonkhet, Samut WOULD NOT have been a Planeswalker for them to highlight within the set.
Therefore, they still lack a Green Planeswalker who has actual interaction with Bolas.
Perhaps Nissa did, I don't know, but for some reason they decided to not go that particular route.
So.. they just invented one to fill the void.
Basically, Vivian Reid exists merely because Wizard's wrote themselves into a corner and needed a quick way out :/
2 months ago
Vivien Reid exists because Wizards forgot that Samut, the Tested existed, and could, in theory, drop to become a mono- Walker that focused on combat and fit the theme of the block as someone who had a relation with Bolas, in the antagonistic way.
2 months ago
First thing's first: "Why is this in the Rules Q&A thread?"
I decided to place this question within the main thread for two reasons.
1.) It will generate a bit more traffic to get a better answer since it's sort of an open-ended question as it embarks on both facts and opinions. By not putting it in the EDH or Modern thread, it allows players from both formats to enter the same thread and discuss the topic.
2.) We are actually talking about the ruling as to why it is banned in one format over another, and the interaction it plays within the two formats in general. I felt this was relevant enough to warrant this thread. I encourage any Mod / Admin who feels differently to please move this thread to a more appropriate section as desired.
So the question is why is Emrakul, the Aeons Torn banned in EDH but not in Modern? Obviously, having Em as a Commander is highly violent in nature. You could ramp into her via the plethora of stones and have a neigh unstoppable wrecking force.
But, at the same time when you consider the abrupt and vicious tactic of Nahiri, the Harbinger or an equally devastating Samut, the Tested if you can manage Haste with a quick spell / artifact, the game suddenly feels just as one-sided.
I'd actually argue she should be banned in Modern, and not in EDH. In Modern, you have one opponent, a smaller life total, a smaller pool of cards to build from, and your opponent could have not just four copies of her in their deck but also four copies of each method to draw her out. You could Goryo's Vengeance her out of your graveyard, you could Genesis Wave her from your library, you could Spawnsire of Ulamog her from outside the game - thereby effectively negating even the possibility of a Surgical Extraction if your opponent doesn't know what's going on.
But in EDH? If you manage to kill her via chump blockers, she's immediately going to cost a staggering , if not far, far more.
She has protection from colored spells, yes. But that resides in the realm of being targeted. To my understanding, protection acts a lot like Hexproof - If you aren't the "target", you aren't "protected".
Yes, a 15/15 flyer with Annihilator 6 is just the worst. But it's not unstoppable. Your opponent is the one who decides what is sacrificed, not you. So they could just keep a flyer or a creature with reach to chump block. If she doesn't have vigilance, all other opponent's will likely team up and take her down.
Now obviously I skimmed over the titanic Loxodon in the room (God, did I really just make THAT pun? Ugh...), and that is her extra turn she gives you.
But this is where my point is just even more honed in.
In Modern, where you have 20 life and games are usually violently quick, that 2nd turn may not even come up. Even if it does, it's essentially a 100% guaranteed win. If you don't have some sort of immediate answer, such as AEtherize, you are 100% losing the game unless you have tons and tons of life and tokens. In fact, Selesnya Tokens with some sort of lifegain buffer might just be THE BEST against her because you can shrug off both the damage and the Annihilator.
But in EDH? Well... You can wreak havoc against one opponent, then against the same opponent or another.
You're dealing a max of 30 damage. Yes, as a Commander that's lethal amounts. But she restricts you to a purely Colorless deck.
Meanwhile, as just a card in your main 99, you have to actually get her out and if you can't win in those next few turns, you bet you'll be taken down ASAP.
Let's talk about that 30 Commander Damage, by the way. You'd have to spend both turns attacking the same opponent to win. Thereby leaving two opponent's open to assault you. And if you spread the Annihilator around to wreak as much havoc as you can, you haven't actually beaten anyone - just set them back. No different than a Wrath spell, in that regards.
I feel like she's honestly too powerful for Modern, as she makes the game truly one-sided and doesn't even really need the 2nd turn in most cases. She deals nearly lethal damage just in one swing and destroys the entire boardstate along with it. Once she hits, it's game.
But in Commander, even if you manage to get her out it becomes less about EDH and more about Archenemy where IF YOU'RE LUCKY you can take out a single opponent during your second turn. Otherwise you just payed for a Wrath of God and a 2nd turn. Brutal, but not necessarily game-winning.
So what are your opinions? Do you agree? Do you feel differently? How so and why?