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Samut, the Tested
+1: Up to one target creature gains Double Strike until end of turn.
-2: Samut, the Tested deals 2 damage divided as you choose among one or two target creatures and/or players.
-7: Search your library for up to two planeswalker and/or creature cards, put them onto the battlefield, then shuffle your library.
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Samut, the Tested Discussion
9 hours ago
Commander / EDH*
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Commander / EDH*
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Before we begin, I'd like to apologize for all this, particularly cdkime, who I dunno what his(her?) thoughts would be about this...
For Deck 1: I still wanted this to be cEDH based, even though awhile back, this is a hopeless case. Currently the best are Tier 4, & I still do in fact want to upgrade them up a Tier, like a joke Depala deck, which was stated as Tier 3, but is unable to qualify as such. Also, since most of my stuff will be 3 CMC, Inwanted to focus on cards w/ this quality, 4 CMC at worst for Sunforger. That said, I wanted some versatility further w/ stuff that might be worth it. The list of stuff I want to add is incomplete so far, but I'm thinking of changing my commander to deal w/ this, & potentially, remove my burn. Also, I dunno how useful Lone Missionary is, but Priest of Urabrask makes for Endless . Here's hoping I can find the same for Endless in CMC3 Danger Zone (Not sure how good Farrelite Priest is, actually... :/). For the Commander, I wanted something that could work w/ the mass combo, Stax, & even other things. I'm currently aiming for Tajic, Legion's Edge as he has low CMC, and can hit hard & fast. But maybe there are better; but I'm NOT Complying to Depala as She's a Tribal Commander, and fast fact: I'd rather use O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami over Geist of Saint Traft anyway. Think about it, she is 5c, & is Thematic w/ Kamigawa, & can splice the night away, & has colors Spirits have even seeped through...
For Deck 2: I dunno about you, but I think I need better options. Tawnos, Urza's Apprentice, & Liquimetal Coating seemed like a waste. & since everyone hated Djeru, With Eyes Open, maybe Thalia's Lancers could do? Also, in the situation that I use Humility, I have to find space for three differing kinds of cards:
+1/+1 for my creatures.
-1/-1 for all my opponent's creatures.
A way to gain infinite amount of Loyalty in one card.
& as a bonus: A Defense for AEther Snap even when tokens & loyalty is straight out dead, but can still be retrieved.
Add to the fact that I also added some other walkers of use...
Daretti, Ingenious Iconoclast: Yes, I get it; it sucks. Just not here. Stuff like Contagion Engine & even Rings of Brighthearth are excellent here, he can make defenders that double as Artifact Tokens, & can sac one to destroy Mana Rocks/Dorks. Not Sarcasm.
W/ this in mind, I'd like to remind that my Boros deck is still in the running for cEDH status, & if the other Boros commanders can't reach Tier 3 after all this, what's this deck's purpose? & I also wanted Superfriends to be better than ever. Suffice to say, I rather lose friends in the game with this deck more so... Xd
Any suggestions are welcome; but I'm not scrapping either Deck when I made it this far. I'll find more options later...
Good luck to all! ^_^ Sorry for all this text though...
1 week ago
But to touch a bit more in depth, Wizards accidentally wrote themselves into a corner. They had a Planeswalker for each color who had personal interactions with Nicol Bolas:
- Sarkhan (Red) saw his world get sundered by Bolas and Ugin.
- Ajani (White) has personally fought Bolas and seen the carnage he can unleash.
- Liliana (Black) ... Okay I personally don't know much about her. I know she accidentally killed her brother before her spark ignited, she made a pact with the Demons, killed them, than Bolas basically said "serve me or die"? Something like that
- Tezzeret (Blue) has been working for Bolas, because Bolas saved his life a long time ago.
But there were no Green Planeswalkers who personally had a history with Bolas.
Now, as I have been told, the reason the Planeswalkers in M19 feel weaker than their current versions, particularly Liliana, the Necromancer and Liliana, Untouched By Death is because Core Set 2019's story is sort of more like a prequel, giving us insight into who Bolas was and his battle with Ugin on Tarkir.
I brought this up in a prior thread where I was curious as to why Liliana felt so weak. In terms of set construction, M19 was released after Amonkhet, in which she kills her final Demon - Razaketh, the Foulblooded.
So if Liliana killed the 4th and final Demon, why does she feel so weak?
What was explained to me is that M19's story takes place long before Amonkhet, therefore (According to the timeline), Liliana is still bound by the Demon(s) during the time M19 takes place in.
What this means is that, DURING M19's story, Samut, the Tested would not have been in the story. She may not even have had her spark ignite. Her spark seems to have ignited when Bolas invaded Amonkhet the first time, where he imprisoned three of the Gods, killed the elderly people, and rewrote history. Samut was able to Planeswalk away, and return during Amonkhet, which is why she knows everything is a lie. Her and Bontu the Glorified are the only ones who remember the truth.
Because of this, since M19 takes place BEFORE the invasion / destruction of Amonkhet, Samut WOULD NOT have been a Planeswalker for them to highlight within the set.
Therefore, they still lack a Green Planeswalker who has actual interaction with Bolas.
Perhaps Nissa did, I don't know, but for some reason they decided to not go that particular route.
So.. they just invented one to fill the void.
Basically, Vivian Reid exists merely because Wizard's wrote themselves into a corner and needed a quick way out :/
1 week ago
Vivien Reid exists because Wizards forgot that Samut, the Tested existed, and could, in theory, drop to become a mono- Walker that focused on combat and fit the theme of the block as someone who had a relation with Bolas, in the antagonistic way.
1 week ago
First thing's first: "Why is this in the Rules Q&A thread?"
I decided to place this question within the main thread for two reasons.
1.) It will generate a bit more traffic to get a better answer since it's sort of an open-ended question as it embarks on both facts and opinions. By not putting it in the EDH or Modern thread, it allows players from both formats to enter the same thread and discuss the topic.
2.) We are actually talking about the ruling as to why it is banned in one format over another, and the interaction it plays within the two formats in general. I felt this was relevant enough to warrant this thread. I encourage any Mod / Admin who feels differently to please move this thread to a more appropriate section as desired.
So the question is why is Emrakul, the Aeons Torn banned in EDH but not in Modern? Obviously, having Em as a Commander is highly violent in nature. You could ramp into her via the plethora of stones and have a neigh unstoppable wrecking force.
But, at the same time when you consider the abrupt and vicious tactic of Nahiri, the Harbinger or an equally devastating Samut, the Tested if you can manage Haste with a quick spell / artifact, the game suddenly feels just as one-sided.
I'd actually argue she should be banned in Modern, and not in EDH. In Modern, you have one opponent, a smaller life total, a smaller pool of cards to build from, and your opponent could have not just four copies of her in their deck but also four copies of each method to draw her out. You could Goryo's Vengeance her out of your graveyard, you could Genesis Wave her from your library, you could Spawnsire of Ulamog her from outside the game - thereby effectively negating even the possibility of a Surgical Extraction if your opponent doesn't know what's going on.
But in EDH? If you manage to kill her via chump blockers, she's immediately going to cost a staggering , if not far, far more.
She has protection from colored spells, yes. But that resides in the realm of being targeted. To my understanding, protection acts a lot like Hexproof - If you aren't the "target", you aren't "protected".
Yes, a 15/15 flyer with Annihilator 6 is just the worst. But it's not unstoppable. Your opponent is the one who decides what is sacrificed, not you. So they could just keep a flyer or a creature with reach to chump block. If she doesn't have vigilance, all other opponent's will likely team up and take her down.
Now obviously I skimmed over the titanic Loxodon in the room (God, did I really just make THAT pun? Ugh...), and that is her extra turn she gives you.
But this is where my point is just even more honed in.
In Modern, where you have 20 life and games are usually violently quick, that 2nd turn may not even come up. Even if it does, it's essentially a 100% guaranteed win. If you don't have some sort of immediate answer, such as AEtherize, you are 100% losing the game unless you have tons and tons of life and tokens. In fact, Selesnya Tokens with some sort of lifegain buffer might just be THE BEST against her because you can shrug off both the damage and the Annihilator.
But in EDH? Well... You can wreak havoc against one opponent, then against the same opponent or another.
You're dealing a max of 30 damage. Yes, as a Commander that's lethal amounts. But she restricts you to a purely Colorless deck.
Meanwhile, as just a card in your main 99, you have to actually get her out and if you can't win in those next few turns, you bet you'll be taken down ASAP.
Let's talk about that 30 Commander Damage, by the way. You'd have to spend both turns attacking the same opponent to win. Thereby leaving two opponent's open to assault you. And if you spread the Annihilator around to wreak as much havoc as you can, you haven't actually beaten anyone - just set them back. No different than a Wrath spell, in that regards.
I feel like she's honestly too powerful for Modern, as she makes the game truly one-sided and doesn't even really need the 2nd turn in most cases. She deals nearly lethal damage just in one swing and destroys the entire boardstate along with it. Once she hits, it's game.
But in Commander, even if you manage to get her out it becomes less about EDH and more about Archenemy where IF YOU'RE LUCKY you can take out a single opponent during your second turn. Otherwise you just payed for a Wrath of God and a 2nd turn. Brutal, but not necessarily game-winning.
So what are your opinions? Do you agree? Do you feel differently? How so and why?
2 weeks ago
Vivien, Heir to the Gruul
Legendary Planeswalkers - Vivien
+1 Vivien, Heir to the Gruul deals 3 damage to any target. If a creature was destroyed in this way, draw a card.
-4 Create a 4/4 red and green Cat creature token with haste. It has ": This creature can't be blocked this turn."
-9 You get an emblem with "Whenever a creature you control enters the battlefield, it deals damage to any target equal to it's power.", then reveal your hand and put all creatures onto the battlefield.
That's exactly the kind of jank I'd build around.
So the lore behind Tezzeret is that he is a "living planar bridge", meaning he can manipulate realities to a certain degree. Remember during RIX when The Immortal Sun was pulled out of Ixalan? That is because Tezzeret is able to open rifts between planes and pull information between them. This is why he looks half-mechanical.
What I'd like to see is an Esper Tezzeret (Esper as it's long since been the color of artifacts. Izzet is only the newest one.) Planeswalkers in which his full potential as a living Planar Bridge is realized.
3 weeks ago
(JSYK, I had a minor Blackout so I couldn't respond earlier. Sorry... :/)
@griffstick: I appreciate your suggestions about this, but I was asking about what cuts I should do to get to 100? Oh, & I'll add Contagion Engine & Inexorable Tide. Even though both things are considered "Win-More" to many. I already have quite some engine anyway; although you are still, regardless, tempting me into that Plaguemaw Beast... XP
BTW, just looked up Smh. Either you're right about a mass Discard deck w/ Tibalt running either Olivia, Mobilized for War, or Malfegor, & I'm as Ambitious as I already know; moreso even now, or the fact I'm running would mean something regarding the 4 words; all Keywords. Well, I'm sorry about such a notion, but there probably is worse out there anyway; Hint: Eldrazi Displacer + Riftsweeper. & the deck isn't even .
But I digress.
This means I have 3 to add, but I added the following anyway:
Would Tawnos, Urza's Apprentice apply? I could activate his ability to copy Rings of Brighthearth to add an additional activation. Does this work that way? If so, I have 4 cards in addition to cut. What walkers should I cut? I guess Dovin Baan has negligible abilities... So, which to cut to 100? & thanks, griffstick. I'll use at least 3 of what you suggested... :D
3 weeks ago
Commander / EDH*
SCORE: 1 | 9 COMMENTS | 95 VIEWS
Since I can't seem to try & contact someone, I'll just state I'm planning to update my Superfriends Deck. However, I actually have a slightly differing path this time:
Some Planeswalkers' will be replaced w/ a card of similar Loyalty Ability...
Jace, Unraveler of Secrets = "A Banned Card"
Angrath, the Flame-Chained for Graveyard Abuse.
Liliana, the Necromancer = quite some decent stuff!)
Ral, Caller of Storms = Card Advantage, & then some...
Djeru, With Eyes Open = it tutors for walkers!
Thalia's Lancers = Search for any Legendary!
There are several others I'll mention later on. I'd like some opinions about these. & yes, I'd like a card that can copy a card twice for stuff like this.
Also, just so I don't depend on Ultimates alone, I'd like some suggestions for Planeswalkers Combo utilizing Loyalty abilities; and no, using The Chain Veil doesn't count... Good luck! :) & I'll be updating my other decks as well if anyone cares...
1 month ago
You already have most of the budget staples but a simple, game winning combo is a traditional kiki-jiki infinite loop with either conscripts or celebrant to get either infinite combats or 3/3s. As of now the components for this combo are at around 30 dollars total.
If you think Tooth is too expensive, substitute Samut, the Tested.
Any amount of creature tutors you include in your deck will substantially increase the competitiveness. They are usually expensive.
Finally, since radha can generate resources for you in combat, employing land destruction and resource denial can be a solid strategy as well. With a Vigor spells like Wildfire and Destructive Force become advantageous mass pump spells. Boom / Bust or cycling Decree of Annihilation can strip opponents of their only mana sources leaving you with a usually insurmountable advantage.