Garna, the Bloodflame
Legendary Creature — Human Warrior
When Garna, the Bloodflame enters the battlefield, return to your hand all creature cards in your graveyard that were put there from anywhere this turn.
Other creatures you control have haste.
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|Commander 2020 (C20)||Uncommon|
|Ultimate Masters (UMA)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Garna, the Bloodflame occurrence in decks from the last year
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Garna, the Bloodflame Discussion
3 weeks ago
@SynergyBuild, Ah well I wanted to leave what kind of deck this would be open-ended so that if it couldn't fit well in my deck it may still serve someone else's deck better. What strikes me about this combo is you could play Ashnod's Altar for , Seasoned Pyromancer for and if you produce two tokens you can cast Nim Deathmantle practically for and still have enough resources to initiate the combo without any additional mana expenditures meaning the combo has the capability to be used with as little as mana total. I feel like this is really low to the ground and may find use in either Legacy (or Modern if Ashnod's Altar is ever printed into that format). Though I haven't played in the Legacy format so perhaps that remark is a bit of a stretch and I'm sure there's loads of reasons to doubt Ashnod's Altar will ever end up in Modern, but having this sort of open-ended conversation I think can serve a lot of good even if its for commander or a different format.
As for my deck I am running Alesha, Who Smiles at Death so . So that does happen to bar me from great suggestions such as Unlife's Thassa's Oracle/Laboratory Maniac suggestion or RambIe's Abundance suggestion. I do want to thank both for bringing everyone's attention to those cards. Also due to the constraints of my deck I want to not run creatures with power 3 or greater and I don't want to run cards with CMC 5 or greater (if I can help it). That said I do want to thank PhotogenicParasympathetic for their card suggestion of Bone Miser and RambIe's suggestion to use Garna, the Bloodflame. Even if these cards don't fit into the constraints of my deck it is wonderful that they were brought up as I feel they actually do the combo a lot of good if you can run them.
I believe the cards suggested that help me the most for my deck are RambIe's suggestion of Shadow of the Grave and most importantly dingusdingo's suggestion to use Library of Leng which I am absolutely kicking myself for, for not being able to think of it around the time I made this thread. Library of Leng as I see it practically answers holes A and B and is so incredibly cheap to cast on top of that. I'm kicking myself because before coming up with this combo I was trying to come up with a two card draw engine using the library as one of the pieces.
I also want to thank dingusdingo and enpc for better explaining how this combo is non-deterministic which better exemplifies why holes A and B are so important to fill. It's also why Library of Leng was such a critical card to be noted as it turns the combo from undeterministic to deterministic.
That all being said however Library of Leng well may bring up a very hazy rules interaction into question that I feel I must have to consult a judge on. If you go onto the Gatherer page for Library of Leng and check the card rulings below on that page it specifies: "Since the card goes directly to the library, the card is not revealed unless the spell or ability requiring the discard specifically says it is."
Because of this ruling the cards discarded aren't revealed, however Seasoned Pyromancer says you can only create tokens based on what cards were discarded. So would this interaction mean that I could discard two land cards, not reveal the fact they are two land cards due to Library of Leng's ruling and then claim the two cards I discarded were actually nonland cards just to produce the tokens? Obviously that scenario wouldn't work, but this begs the question how does this work? Remember the card ruling says the cards aren't revealed unless an effect specifically says to reveal the discarded card and no where does Seasoned Pyromancer say the discarded cards must be revealed because typically the contents of any player's graveyard is common knowledge to everyone. So this effect would only apply to cards such as Nephalia Academy, Noxious Vapors, Cabal Therapy, etc. where reveal is explicitly stated. But I might be wildly misinterpreting this effect as it could also be abusive with cards that have transmute or Seismic Assault where what you discard matters except the rulings for Library of Leng also states: "You can’t use the Library of Leng ability to place a discarded card on top of your library when you discard a card as a cost, because costs aren’t effects." Transmute and Seismic Assault use the discarded card as a cost, but Seasoned Pyromancer doesn't so is this a blind spot in the rules?
But excluding what I just mentioned there Library of Leng is probably the best answer for countering Holes A and B so far, but it's still not a 100% perfect solution. There's always the risk of running into a massive land block before drawing into it and there's also the concern of if your deck has an odd number of cards, then if its the bottom card of your library you'd need some additional effect to draw into it as drawing two cards at a time would cause you to deck out and lose the game before you could even cast it. While I'm fully aware both effects are still very unlikely they do exist and that probability is a non-zero entity even if for it being very unlikely.
One card I'm already running in my deck that may help mitigate one of those issues however is Conjurer's Bauble which I can use to guarantee the bottom card of my library won't be the Library of Leng. And if I choose not to put a card on the bottom of my library, that can trip can be used to turn a library with an odd number of cards in it into a library with an even number of cards in it. It's also helpful in the event I mill either it or Elixir of Immortality into my graveyard whether by some dredge effect or through milling caused by an opponent from earlier in the game. I thought I'd bring everyone's attention to Conjurer's Bauble as the cheap cost and can trip makes it an accessory to this combo that won't be a dead draw in the event you don't have the combo out.
4 weeks ago
4 weeks ago
I can vision this in jund
I would add card mechanics like
Call to the Netherworld, Shadow of the Grave, Garna, the Bloodflame, Creeping Renaissance to reload your hand
Liliana, Dreadhorde General, Erebos, Bleak-Hearted,Moldervine Reclamation,Fecundity, Korvold, Fae-Cursed King. to improve the draw
This could help you get past the lands.
plenty of ways in these colors to make this combo go lethal or as pointed out fetch win (IMO do both)
the true challenge is making it consistent
I hate to say it but tutor for a tutor Diabolic Revelation
I hope this is enough suggestions to get you started on your journey, Good luck
1 month ago
theFro they're not banned so much as not yet legal
thanks for the insights! i put this together half asleep one night, definitely just a prototype atm
i think i want to, like, get Pitiless Plunderer online, make loads of treasures off of creatures dying so i can kill a bunch off with Kaervek the Merciless or even Massacre Girl, have them come back to hand with Garna, the Bloodflame or play with Gerrard, Weatherlight Hero, repeat and then maybe win off of Syr Konrad, the Grim or such
mostly i feel like sisay decks tend to be "legendary goodstuff" and i wanted to play with the idea of a combo, secret commanders deck - she essentially allows you to partner anyt
2 months ago
I forgot to mention Mentor of the Meek, while you do have the card draw from Skullclamp I feel like the deck can get too fast fo its own good so adding more card draw is always nice to keep adding creatures to the board. Outlaws' Merriment creates human tokens which it's nice but you also have Assemble the Legion which it can be better if it sticks long enough.Ruinous Ultimatum I'm still a bit on the fence with this card because you'll probably tap out for this and waste a turn basically if it gets countered but on the other hand I always like to have 2 or 3 board wipes (maybe 2 since it's a creture heavy deck). Angel of Glory's Rise and Garna, the Bloodflame are good ways to get back after a board wipe and not get stuck behind. Lightning Greaves and Swiftfoot Boots I feel like there are auto inclusions even if one of the commanders can become indestructible because there's always that one player that has a path to exile or something to return to hand XD
3 months ago
I would look at some of the commons and try some of these. Gurmag Swiftwing Brutal Hordechief Wingmate Roc Ankle Shanker Butcher of the Horde Garna, the Bloodflame Ride Down Mardu Charm Primevals' Glorious Rebirth
4 months ago
Blacksmith's Hammer 4
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Equipped creatures gets +1/+0 and has Hexproof.
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4 months ago
I like where your mind is at with the sacrifice theme. Ashnod's Altar is an interesting prospect; it is more affordable than Thermopod and produces more mana. Colorless mana has it's limits but the ability to sacrifice Garna, the Bloodflame and then use that colorless mana to recast her from the command zone could be useful.