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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vintage Legal



Until end of turn, target creature you control becomes a 4/4 blue and red Dragon, loses all abilities, and gains flying.

Overload {3}{U}{U}{R}{R} (You may cast this spell for its overload cost. If you do, change its text by replacing all instances of "target" with "each.")

Dazard on Izzet - Cipher Deck

4 months ago

I am reanimating this deck and made some changes. I swapped Last Thoughts with Trait Doctoring. So instead of that low 4 mana spell i have a quick "cipher one drop" that can also fix my mana base.

dropped the two Niv-Mizzets, because they weren't a real finisher after all. i added Sentinel Tower and Firemind's Research instead which support my overall cipher theme better.

Dragonshift for some (defensive or offensive) suprises, Mizzium Mortars for some boardwipes.

What do you think?

balefire123 on Tibor and Lumia Deathslingers

10 months ago

I like this! An uncommon Commander with some spice in the list. This seems the perfect deck for Student of Elements  Flip, and I don't think I've seen a better list for Mass Diminish and Polymorphist's Jest.

The easiest addition, imo, is Trinket Mage to fetch Basilisk Collar, Sol Ring, etc.

Cards like Archaeomancer and Ardent Elementalist aren't particularly exciting, but they do help by adding more recursion/redundancy to the deck. The Mirari Conjecture does something similar, but with an added bonus after two turns.

Enchantments like Dismiss into Dream and Cowardice are some spicy ways to turn blue cantrips into removal.

I think the token producers (especially Young Pyromancer) conflict with T&L's second ability, but I also think they offer up an opportunity for a new win condition: Dragonshift. If you go this route, I'd suggest adding cards like Murmuring Mystic, Talrand, Sky Summoner, Metallurgic Summonings and Shark Typhoon. Deekah, Fractal Theorist deserves special mention, as the tokens it creates will keep their +1/+1 counters even after being Dragonshifted.

I don't like Kaza, Roil Chaser here, because I see this as a deck that wants to be casting a bunch of small spells, not a few large or X spells. I also think you are leaning too heavily into copying spells for much the same reason. Copying a Brainstorm =/= copying a Comet Storm. Even copying Stitch in Time feels like a waste. Maybe take out cards like Increasing Vengeance for more counterspells or interaction? Archmage Emeritus, Niv-Mizzet, Parun and Wavebreak Hippocamp help you maintain card advantage even when countering your opponent's threats.

Overall, I feel this deck is looking to control the board with cards like Basilisk Collar or Mass Diminish + Tibor and Lumia, maintain card parity with counterspells + cantrips and Archmage Emeritus (and company), and then follow up with either a swarm of tokens + Dragonshift/Day of the Dragons or individual threats such as Niv-Mizzet or even Nezahal, Primal Tide or Hullbreaker Horror. I think you'd be best served by upping your interaction/counterspell suite, eliminating some of the more expensive sorceries (everything 4+ MV) and X-spells, and focusing less on spell copying in favor of casting more cheap spells in the first place. I hope this helps! I haven't really thought much about this commander before, so thanks for bringing it to my attention. Might try my own spin with this lovely Izzet couple.

amicdeep on The Dragon Tempest

1 year ago

no Dragonshift? seems like a solid second option

Hardhitta7 on

1 year ago

I’m not too familiar with this precon but I’ll try to give some advice.

There are a few cards that are a bit weak, like Expedition Diviner and Unsummon . I’m also not a big fan of Rousing Refrain , but that really depends on how long your games are lasting.

Cards you could add, Aminatou's Augury is sweet and super fun to copy. Culmination of Studies could be good here. Melek, Izzet Paragon is pretty good and can be your commander if you wanna switch it up. Solve the Equation is a good tutor that’s not too expensive.

There’s also some sub-par cards you could swap out for better versions. Gadwick, the Wizened would be better as Blue Sun's Zenith , Pull from Tomorrow , or Expansion / Explosion since they can be copied and trigger your commander.

Spectacle Mage would be better as Baral, Chief of Compliance since it can make any spell cheaper plus the other ability can come in handy.

Also I don’t think the two Storm cards are very good here since your trying to cast big spells and not multiple spells in a turn.

If you wanna make more tokens you could include Murmuring Mystic . And if you added that I would suggest one of my favorite cards, even though it’s not that good, Dragonshift .

Clone Legion is fun to copy as well.

Either way, I like the deck, good luck with it!

libraryjoy on Looking for a fun budget …

1 year ago

Thanks! Actually I have wanted to build a Dragonshift Deck before, but forgot about it lol. Zirda IS a ton of fun and currently running in 2 of my decks right now, particularly with cycling. Thanks for the list; I'm sure I'll refer to it when I'm looking for something. Off to work on a Dragonshift deck and check out some from FormOverFunction

Ekuryua on Looking for a fun budget …

1 year ago

I think there is a lot of fun to be had with Zirda, the Dawnwaker, there are a lot of cards that are affected by his ability.

Also maybe something with the processor cards from BFZ? Cryptic Cruiser and the likes.


Dismiss into Dream

Fevered Visions

Nivmagus Elemental


Evolution Vat

I hate being that kinda guy, but maybe you want to look at this list i made some time ago listing older cards with interesting or unique effects that go mostly unnoticed: List of Interesting cards some may have forgotten

MonkeySit on Transforming creatures into Dragons

1 year ago

I had this idea for a deck where I constantly cast Frogify effects on my opponents whilst casting similarly weak creatures myself. But then what I wanted to do was transform them into dragons. I am purposely limiting myself to dragons for flavour but if there aren't many more cards that can do this, then I'll have to rethink my strategy - probably just hard cast dragons to stay on theme or just other big creature token generators.

So far in my list of cards that I've found are:

Atarka Monument Dance of the Skywise Day of the Dragons Descent of the Dragons Dragonshift Dromoka Monument Kolaghan Monument Ojutai Monument Sarkhan the Mad Silumgar Monument

If there are any others people can think of, it would be HUGELY appreciated.

Thanks in advance!!!


2 years ago

enpc do you have any win con ideas? Aside from the Niv/Draw/Lab Man combo I was thinking Dragonshift could have been one but the longer it has sat there it seems better suited to a go wide strategy or 1v1. I considered infect but seemed cheap. I have thought about Riku, being able to copy pokers and spells could be useful. Regarding Niv would you say run the one or both for redundancy?. Torbran seems like a nice touch, though I feel it'd be another portion to build around with damage doublers like Gratuitous Violence . Choosing one path (deathtouch/stealstuff) is difficult. Death touch focus would mean less dedication to removal spells and cool synergy with Goblin Sharpshooter . Steal stuff route would require alot of spots devoted to it I think, like sac outlets to use the stolen goods.

GhostChieftain while that does sound tempting I think that would further complicate things and increase costs. I had debated dropping green but it's giving me Ramp, haste enablers, untap effects, and a bit of recursion I can't get from just UR.

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