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Crystalline Sliver
Creature — Sliver
All Slivers have shroud. (They can't be the targets of spells or abilities.)
Doombeard1984 on
The First Skep
1 month ago
Good morning Tulsasaurus_Rex, and thank you for sharing your hive with us.
I have a brood of my own, and much like yourself have had an affinity for Tribal decks, and especially Slivers for the better part of nearly... 2 decades (dang... now I feel old). So I would like to maybe make a couple suggestions if thats ok?
Creatures:
- Sedge Sliver - I would probably remove Crypt Sliver for this as Crystalline Sliver switches this Sliver off. It also works with all those shock lands you have as they have the appropriate land types.
- Quick Sliver - Having flash on all your slivers can be so powerful. I'd take out Blur Sliver. You have haste enablers on Cloudshredder Sliver Heart Sliver and Thrumming Hivepool which are just better. Blur seems like a wasted slot.
- Basal Sliver - Big fan of Basal (goes great in pasta...), as means you can sacrifice those tokens for mana etc. I would remove Winged Sliver as again, you have flying from Cloudshredder Sliver and Galerider Sliver.
Non-Creature spells:
So these I am less sure on what to remove, but will give some explanation as to why I think they may help:
- Eerie Ultimatum - Can see you have Patriarch's Bidding in your maybe board, but I offer this is way better. You get all your things and you opponents get nothing. You even get all your other non-Slivery things.
- Boros Charm
- You are playing Slivers, and therefore you are going to attract a board wipe. Boros Charm
is the classic "go-to" for making your board indestructible, all for the low price of .
- Removal - Going to mention a few cards here that are just good. Assassin's Trophy, Swords to Plowshares, Path to Exile. Trophy is another hit anything card, and Swords and Path both exiles tricky creatures your opponents have. All super low cost, to let you spend your mana on better things.
- Card advantage - So I think something like a Mirri's Guile or Sylvan Library just lets you have some card selection of advantage every turn. Lets you make sure you are hitting those land drops, or if you are flooded, you can make sure you are getting gas to help power your deck forward.
- Ramp - Id be looking at maybe Three Visits and Nature's Lore as they can get you any forest type shock land into play, and if you want untapped by paying the 2 life. Id also look at other mana rocks (Ichor Elixir and Fractured Powerstone don't seem that great). Any of the Talismans (Talisman of Hierarchy, Talisman of Unity etc - there is a full cycle) would give you access to colours at only , and up until recently I ran Chromatic Lantern to help with smoothing out any mana issues. Yes it costs , but can be really useful with how mana intensive Slivers can be where is concerned.
- Blasphemous Act/Austere Command - I love these cards. Sometimes you will need to answer a board. Austere Command is modal so gives you lots of flexibility. And if you have Sliver Hivelord on the board, your Sliv's are safe. Blasphemous Act can win you the game if you have a Spiteful Sliver with a board state. Means you can ding 13 damage to any target should this fire, and again may be safe with a Boros Charm
or a Sliver Hivelord.
Hope this helps, and have given you a +1. Please feel free to hope on over to my Hive and have a browse (Sliver Overlord - Predatory Super-Organisms)
Doombeard1984 on
Big ol Overlord
8 months ago
So firstly, from 1 hive to another, a thumbs up.
So a couple of things, I know playing slivers, protecting your board is sooooo paramount. Have been victim of the hate plays more than once lol. So Crystalline Sliver is likely going to be one of your 1st go to tutors. That effectively turns off Crypt Sliver, so not sure how good that is.
Secondly, Shadow Sliver is a double edged sword, as you also cant block. Personally would suggest Shifting Sliver as a better option as you get all the unblockable (pretty much) you want, with no downside.
Third.... Spiteful Sliver + Blasphemous Act can be HILARIOUS if you have either a big board state, or an indestructable board state. 13 damage per sliver hit, which you can point where you want lol.
Fourth... Virulent Sliver only gives 1 poison counter a creature, and youre not proliferating. Venom Sliver gives you deathtouch, and if you have a Bonescythe Sliver or Striking Sliver, your opponents arent going to want attack.
Love the look of what you got though. Feel free to stop by my Hive if you wish to have a look and see an alternative take. Sliver Overlord - Predatory Super-Organisms
All hail our Overlord, and our Queen
Mortlocke on
The Queen's Egg
1 year ago
Hibernation Sliver is a deterrent. It boasts to my opponents that their removal is useless as a targeted "problem sliver" will simply show up again. The truth is i've never found myself wanting to use this ability simply because there are better alternatives in the deck in the form of Crystalline Sliver or a simple Counterspell. Additionally, I've owned Deadly Rollick
since it was released because I absolutely love the art. It's evocative of the earlier days in magic when the art was dark, sinister, and seductive. Speaking of seductive - Judith is hot. The art absolutely speaks to me - and what it says I'm sure I can't say in public.
Side Rant - I took this deck to a tournament over the weekend. It was advertised as a Commander tournament with prizes and no restrictions outside of the standard Commander banlist. Additionally, once you used a deck you had to stick with it throughout the whole tournament. Unbeknownst to me, a herd of cEDH players showed up and were crushing tables on turns 2 to 3 with regular consistency - they assumed it was a cEDH tournament, according to on of my opponents. After having one very exciting game I realized that while this deck is decidedly not one of the archetypes, it could at least leave an impact on a cEDH game. So I think I want to squeeze in some more interaction just to ensure that this deck could at least consistently hang at a cEDH table. So, that's the other reason why I wanted to slot in Deadly Rollick. Also i'm trying to slot in a copy of Flusterstorm. It's a great spell and just got the foil old border
treatment in MH3 as a buy a box promo. I'm trying to decide on what to slot it in for, but i'm having a tough time deciding on what to cut. Do you have any ideas Flodes?
That's the end of my long rant, thanks again for commenting.
Edit: Made a few changes due to bad grammar/spelling
Mortlocke on
The Queen's Egg
1 year ago
Hibernation Sliver is a deterrent. It boasts to my opponents that their removal is useless as a targeted "problem sliver" will simply show up again. But, I've never used once while owning the deck. I've never found myself wanting to use this ability simply because there are already better alternatives in the deck in the form of Crystalline Sliver or a simple Counterspell. Additionally, I've owned Deadly Rollick since it was released because I absolutely love the art. It's evocative of the earlier days in magic when the art was dark, sinister, and seductive. Speaking of seductive - Judith is hot. The art absolutely speaks to me - and what it says I'm sure I can't say in public.
Side Rant - I took this deck to a tournament over the weekend. It was advertised as a Commander tournament with prizes and no restrictions outside of the standard Commander banlist. Additionally, once you used a deck you had to stick with it throughout the whole tournament. Unbeknownst to me, a herd of cEDH players showed up and were crushing tables on turns 2 to 3 with regular consistency - they assumed it was a cEDH tournament, according to on of my opponents. After having one very exciting game I realized that while this deck is decidedly not one of the archetypes, it could at least leave an impact on a cEDH game. So I think I want to squeeze in some more interaction just to ensure that this deck could at least consistently hang at a cEDH table. So, that's the other reason why I wanted to slot in Deadly Rollick. Also i'm trying to slot in a copy of Flusterstorm. That spell is pretty cool, and in MH3 a foil old border
copy was printed. I'm trying to decide on what to slot it in for, but i'm having a tough time deciding on what to cut. Do you have any ideas Flodes? That's the end of my long rant, thanks again for commenting.
Mortlocke on
The Queen's Egg
1 year ago
Long story so buckle up - I took this deck to a tournament over the weekend. It was advertised as a Commander tournament with prizes and no restrictions outside of the normal banlist. Also, once you used a deck you had to stick with it throughout the whole tournament. Unbeknownst to me, a herd of cEDH players showed up and were crushing tables on turns 2 to 3 with regular consistency. This almost happened to me, but between me and the rest of the table we had enough interaction to stop it. Then I realized - while this deck is decidedly not a cEDH archetype, it could at least hang at the table and leave an impact on the game - but I need more interaction.
Hibernation Sliver is a deterrent. It boasts to my opponents that their removal is useless as said sliver will simply show up again. This ability I've never used once while owning this deck. I've never used it as a go-to because there are simply better options in the form of Crystalline Sliver or just a good ol' fashioned Counterspell. Besides, i've had full art foil Deadly Rollick (featuring Judith), and am trying to find a nice deck for it to call home. It's evocative of the earlier days in magic where the art was more evocative of something dark, sinister, and forbidden. Also, Judith is hot.
tl;dr - I need more interaction and I found Hibernation Sliver to not be as useful as I thought.
Additionally, MH3 introduced a gorgeous buy a box promo - a foil old border Flusterstorm
. I got a copy and am definitely going to try and make a spot for it in the deck. Unfortunately, I have no idea what to cut. Maybe Swords to Plowshares?
Longer discussion note - I think that cEDH is a wonderful deck building meta, but it is something completely separate from your standard Commander or EDH meta. It was unfortunate that I and a portion of other players were very much caught off guard by the cEDH crowd and have to say that the planners need to make things clear when deciding on what the meta for the tournament will be. My personal thoughts are create a cEDH meta (which strictly uses cEDH deck archetypes) and a Commander meta (which explicitly does not use cEDH deck archetypes, and has games that are expected to end from turn 5 and beyond). I very much dislike weird and arbitrary bans on things like infinite combos or certain cards. Random rant, but I had those thoughts on my mind. Thanks for commenting again Flodes!
Goyfs-R-Us on
All Hail The Overlord
1 year ago
GeminiSpartanX There are many ways for Slivers to go infinite in mana, creatures or damage. I will start by listing 3 of the most common ones you will generally see to get you started. The rest I will leave for you to discover through play.
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Sliver Queen+Mana Echoes: The classic, will generate infinite mana and Sliver tokens, combine with a haste sliver for an infinite attack or use Lavabelly Sliver for infinite target damage and life.
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Basal Sliver+Sliver Queen+Lavabelly Sliver: Infinite target damage and life gain.
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Intruder Alarm+The First Sliver: Not truly an infinite combo on it's own but can be with the right setup or hit's off cascade triggers. Intruder Alarm combos with a ham sandwich so not hard to make infinite with mana/haste slivers and Hibernation Sliver and Darkheart Sliver.
Bonus: The most important cards to consider for combos. Sliver Queen, Basal Sliver, Lavabelly Sliver, Hibernation Sliver, The First Sliver, Gemhide Sliver, Manaweft Sliver, Heart Sliver, Cloudshredder Sliver, Firewake Sliver, Darkheart Sliver, Cautery Sliver, Sliver Overlord, Homing Sliver, Mana Echoes, Intruder Alarm, Faces of the Past.
Support Cards: The most important cards to protect your combos. Crystalline Sliver, Root Sliver, Sliver Hivelord, Quick Sliver, Ward Sliver, Force of Will, Patriarch's Bidding.
NV_1980 on
Slivers or Fragmentados
2 years ago
I'd really recommend Crystalline Sliver as it grants protection against targeted spells to all your slivers (including your commander). Amoeboid Changeling is also great fun to include, as it allows you to steal opposing creatures with Overlord.
Mortlocke on
The Queen's Egg
2 years ago
I think that the latest batch of Slivers aren't overtly power crept, but with the right deck can be an absolute menace. I feel the same way about the new art as well, I was never a fan of the Shandalar Sliver variants. The humanoid form just makes slivers seem like a fairly generic monster - the original form that debuted on Rath is iconic as it's so alien but oddly cute.
When I find that my playgroup loves to run interaction I simply adjust my decks to fit the local meta. My opponents love to counter Slivers? Then Root Sliver would love to have a word with them. Opponents love to run spot removal? I proceed to laugh as Crystalline Sliver shows up. So on and so forth. There's always a Sliver for the job when it comes to a problem, but running your own interaction and work-arounds is key. Try running counter magic as form of protection and see where that takes you.
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